Secret White House Tapes

916–14

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916–14
  • UNKNOWN
  • Henry A. Kissinger
  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • Alexander M. Haig
  • William P. Rogers
May 11, 1973
Conversation No. 916-14

Date: May 11, 1973
Time: 10:15 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office

Unknown man met with Henry A. Kissinger.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM


Tape Subject Log

(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

President’s location

Statement [?]

The President entered and Haig left at an unknown time after 10:15 am.

Kissinger’s schedule
-Airplane flight


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Kissinger’s foreign travel
-Jet lag

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.

Refreshments
-Coffee

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:05 am.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

US-Soviet relations
-Kissinger’s memorandum [memo]
-President’s reaction
-William P. Rogers [?]
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Press announcement
-Timing
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Kissinger’s possible press briefing regarding trip to Soviet Union
-Possible impact on negotiations

-Kissinger’s statement at Moscow airport

-Strategy

-Timing of press announcement


Vietnam
-Paris Peace talks
-Kissinger’s trip
-Press announcement
-Le Duc Tho
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Leverage

-Bombing

-Cambodia

-President’s actions
-Congressional support
-December bombings
-Funds
-Bombing
-Need for funds

Cambodia
-Congressional vote on funds

-Bureaucratic mistake

-William E. Timmons

-Defense Department, State Department

-Robert Moot’s replacement as Comptroller

-Elliot L. Richardson

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)


Defense Department
-Dr. James R. Schlesinger

-Compared with Richardson

-William P. Clements, Jr.


Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Joint Chiefs of Staff, Clements
-Soviet Union’s position
-JCS position
-Multiple Independently-Targetable Reentry Vehicle [MIRV]

-Possible effect

-Advantages to US

-President’s forthcoming memo

-Phraseology

-Congress, press


Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Forthcoming briefing of William P. Rogers

Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Forthcoming briefing of [David] Kenneth Rush
-Rogers
-Need for bureaucratic support
-Impact of Watergate scandal

-Great Britain’s assessment

-Protection of People’s Republic of China [PRC]

-European concerns

-Need for support from US ambassadors

-Possible effect on nuclear deterrence

-Great Britain’s enthusiasm


Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union and London
-Brezhnev’s dacha [retreat]

-Location

-Compared with Camp David

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM


Tape Subject Log

(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Lifestyle of Communist leaders

Kissinger’s previous visit to London
-Messages from Edward R. G. Heath and [Maurice] Harold MacMillan to President
-Heath’s unofficial regards
-MacMillan’s letter to Walter H. Annenberg

Watergate
-Public interest
-Cabinet meeting
-Kissinger, President, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, and
Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Indictment of John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans in Robert L. Vesco case
-Results of Vesco case
-Indictments

An unknown person entered the room at an unknown time after 10:15 am. [?]

Refreshments [?]

The unknown person left the room at an unknown time before 11:05 am. [?]

Messages from Heath and MacMillan

-President’s reaction


Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union

-Brezhnev’s schedule

-Activities

-Military motor boat

-Hunting

-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev

-Brezhnev’s opinion of President

-Invitation to President to visit Soviet Union

-Reception

President’s possible foreign travel

-Soviet Union

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Impact on focus on Watergate scandal

-Europe

-PRC

-Europe

-US relations

North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] meetings
-Timing
-Effect of possible European summit
-Great Britain

Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Possible European summit

-Resulting document

-Challenges

-Need for support

-Great Britain

-Kissinger’s meeting in London, May 10

-France

-Federal Republic of Germany

-Contrasted with Walter Scheel’s meeting with Rogers


Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
-Positive reception
-Cable to President
-Banquet

Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Planning
-Activities

-Sequoia

-Camp David

-San Clemente

-Brezhnev’s expectations

-Lincoln


Kissinger’s previous visit to Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Brezhnev’s comments on mothers

-Brezhnev’s mother

-Hannah Milhous Nixon

-Brezhnev’s remarks at banquet

-Veracity

-Commitment


US-Soviet relations
-President’s legacy
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-Potential for success

-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings

-Rush

-State Department

-William J. Porter

-SALT negotiations

-Worries

-State Department [?]

-MIRVs

-Principles

-Kissinger’s role

-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War

-Significance

-Public relations

-Principles

-JCS

-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War

-Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft [?]

-Other agreements

-Nuclear exchanges, peaceful uses

-Cultural exchanges

-Transportation

-Environment

-Civil aviation

-Maritime

-Signings at forthcoming Soviet summit

-Communiqué

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefing of Rogers

-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War

-SALT

-Principles

-JCS

-Vietnam

-Brezhnev

-Military equipment

-President’s cables

-Scowcroft

-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War

-Impediment to negotiations

-Kissinger’s message to President

-Key Biscayne

-Instructions from President

-Scowcroft

-Brezhnev

-Reaction

-Acceptance of US terms

-Compared to Great Britain

-PRC

-Soviet Union attack

-Kissinger’s impressions

-Hunting

-Brezhnev’s private conversation with Kissinger

-Translation [Viktor M. Sukhodrev]

-Need for US-Soviet cooperation

-Prevention of PRC nuclear program

-Kissinger’s talks with PRC

-Global balance of power

-Brezhnev’s comments
-US politics

-1976 elections

-Need for Republican


Watergate
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin’s comments
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Indictments

-Stans and Mitchell

-Vesco

-Kissnger’s conversation with Dobrynin

-Amateur nature of break-in

-Dislike of Democrats


US-Soviet relations
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev
-Brezhnev’s comments on Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Jackson-Vanick Amendment
-Jewish emigration
-Exit visas
-List of names
-President’s conversation with Senate Commerce Committee
-Modifications to legislation
-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev

-Possible effect on Jewish emigration

-Status of Jews in Soviet Union

-Ability to gain exit visas

-Possible in anti-Semitism

-Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]

-Timing

-Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe [CSCE]

-Middle East

-Potential for war
-Soviet principles
-Kissinger’s conversation with Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
-Pro-Egypt stance
-Kissinger’s cable
-Kissinger’s conversation with Andrei A. Gromyko
-Brezhnev

-Strategy for negotiations

-1972 summit

-Principles


Middle East
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-US relations with Israel

-Arab position

-Possibility for interim agreement

-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Hafez Ismail

-Paris Peace Talks with Le Duc Tho

-Rogers’s possible reaction

-Foreign service officer in Cairo [Joseph N. Greene, Jr. ?]

-Cables

-Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings

-Rogers and Joseph J. Sisco

-Foreign service officer in Cairo [Greene ?]

-Need for recall


Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Middle East, Vietnam
-Agreement on the Prevention of Nuclear War
-SALT
-Communiqué
-Bilateral treaties
-Rogers and Gromyko
-East Room

-Preparations

-Activities for Brezhnev

-Disneyland

-Hollywood

-Dinner

-Compared with John Ford


Southeast Asia
-Kissinger’s conversations with Brezhnev
-Vietnam
-Attacks by North Vietnam

-Impact of Watergate

-Possible US action

-Congress

-Effects on US-Soviet relations

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM


Tape Subject Log

(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

US-European relations

-Willy Brandt

-Great Britain

-Possible Atlantic Charter

-Deputy foreign ministers
-Great Britain, France, Germany, US
-Sir Burke Trend
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Michel Jobert
-Paris Peace Talks
-North Vietnam
-NATO meeting
-Timing
-Possible Atlantic Charter document
-Significance
-President’s possible trip to Europe
-US goals
-Defense, trade, political coordination
-Need for open communication
-Focus
-Possible Atlantic Charter
-Press reaction
-Compared with SALT
-Significance to Atlantic relations
-Kissinger’s previous speech
-Origin of phrase
-William P. Rogers [?]

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.

Refreshment

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:03 pm.

US-Europe relations
-Possible achievements
-Reorientation of defense
-CSCE, MBFR
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Possible effects

-Demonstration of governance

-Contrasted with Watergate


Watergate
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Removal by the President
-Public reaction
-Compared with John F. Kennedy and Bay of Pigs
-Wiretaps

-National security

-Kissinger’s role

-Haldeman’s role

-President’s role

-Ehrlichman’s role

-Effect on Daniel Ellsberg case

-Morton H. Halperin
-Kissinger’s knowledge

-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] wiretaps

-Ehrlichman

-David R. Young, Jr. and Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-FBI

-Kissinger’s position

-Legality of wiretaps

-J. Edgar Hoover

-India-Pakistan

-Lie detector tests

-Yeoman Charles E. Radford

-Wiretaps

-Kissinger’s knowledge

-Adm. Robert O. Welander

-Radford

-Leak of documents to Jack N. Anderson

-Lie detector test

-Ehrlichman

-Wiretap

-Krogh

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Kissinger’s knowledge

-Jeb Stuart Magruder

-FBI

-India-Pakistan

-Wiretap of Radford
-United States Secret Service [USSS]
-Desirability of disclosure
-Possible oversight by JCS

Watergate
-Wiretapes

-Krogh

-National Security Council [NSC]

-Halperin

-FBI and Justice Department

-NSC

-Leaks
-PRC, Soviet Union, Prisoners of War [POWs] and Vietnam War
-Possible effect on foreign policy
-FBI

-W. Matthew Byrne, Jr.

-Leaks from FBI to New York Times

-Kissinger’s possible reaction

-President’s reaction

-Compared to Ellsberg case, Pentagon Papers

-Possible effects on the President’s policies

-Importance to world

-President’s possible resignation

-Spiro T. Agnew

-Possible duration

-Ervin Committee


US foreign policy
-Rogers’s forthcoming meeting with President and Kissinger

-Duration

-Agenda

-Kissinger’s briefing on previous visit to Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM


Tape Subject Log

(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-SALT, bilateral agreements
-Announcement of forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Timing
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Ismail
-Expectations
-Soviet Union’s assessment of Middle East

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.

Rogers’s arrival

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:05 am.

Secretary of State position

-Kissinger’s suitability

-Desire to run bureaucracy

-Timing

-Watergate

-Forthcoming Soviet summit

-Rogers’s term in office

-Effect of Watergate

-Perception

-Kissinger’s possible appointment

-Effect on White House

-Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Scowcroft
-NSC’s role
-Role
-Compared with George P. Shultz
-Possible roles for Haig Scowcroft
-President’s schedule
-Compared with John Foster Dulles and Dwight D.
Eisenhower
-Connally’s possible appointment
-Possible departures of Rogers and Kissinger
-Suitability
-Rush’s possible appointment

-Kissinger’s role

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Tape Subject Log

(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Need for change
-Connally

-President’s assessment

-Departure of Kissinger

-Possible effect on US foreign relations
-Soviet Union and PRC
-Compared with present situation
-Duration
-Kissinger
-National Security Czar
-Compared with Shultz
-Need for Deputy Secretary
-Rush
-Suitability
-Role with bureaucracy
-Role in national security
-Effect on SALT
-Timing
-Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Rogers’s forthcoming NATO summit
-President’s control of US foreign policy
-Possible Atlantic Charter

William P. Rogers and an unknown man entered at 11:05 am.

Press photograph opportunity

-Location

-Weather


Kissinger’s schedule

The unknown man left and members of the press entered at 11:05 am.

Kissinger’s schedule

-Brezhnev


Rogers’s trip to Latin America
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Tape Subject Log

(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Indictment

Kissinger’s visit to Zavidovo

-Brezhnev’s dacha

-Swimming pool, gymnasium


Weather

-Photographs


Rogers’s trip to Mexico

The press left at an unknown tiem before 12:03 pm.

Rogers’s trip to Latin America

Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Announcements
-Timing
-Kissinger’s comments at Moscow airport
-Arrangements
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-President’s schedule
-Camp David
-Activities
-Sequoia
-Key Biscayne
-San Clemente
-Houston, Detroit
-Brezhnev’s automobiles
-Masarati, Cadillac, Rolls Royce
-Request for Lincoln Mark II

Kissinger’s visit to Soviet Union
-Brezhnev

-Driving habits

-Motorboat, hovercraft [?]

-Living conditions in villages
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Contrasted with leaders of Soviet Union

-Contrasted with US leaders

-Brezhnev’s dacha [retreat]

-Hunting

-Value

-Compared to Swiss chalet

-Swimming pool

US foreign relations
-Soviet summit
-NATO
-CSCE

Forthcoming Soviet summit
-Soviet view

-Watergate

-Benefit to Brezhnev

-Attendance
-Gromyko

-Provisions for signing agreements

-Gromyko, Dorbynin, [First name unknown] Konenko [?]

-Communiqué

-Motives

SALT
-Soviet Union
-JCS
-MIRVs

-Equal aggregates

-Soviet Union compared to US

-Limitations

-Soviet Union position

-State Department position

-JCS opposition

-Trident missiles

-MIRV freeze

-JCS

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson

-White House strategy to gain support

-General principles

-Negotiations

-Necessity of MIRV offer

-Kissinger’s conversation with Brezhnev

-Soviet Union missiles

-MIRV missiles compared with numbers of missiles
-Contrasted with numbers only conditions
-Possible outcome
-US position

-Soviet Union action

-US arms compared with Soviet arms

-JCS

-President’s possible communication

-President’s assessment


Cambodia
-Vote in Congess, May 10
-Appropriations

-Transfer authority

-State Department knowledge

-Defense Department actions

-Amount of funding
-Kissinger’s opinion
-Rogers’s assessment
-Effects of vote

-President’s assessment

-Paris Peace Talks

-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Le Duc Tho
-Rogers’s testimony to Senate Appropriations Committee
-John L. McClellan
-Executive session
-Compared to Foreign Relations Committee
-Favorable vote
-North Vietnam

-Effect of vote

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Rogers’s conversation with William H. Sullivan

-Kissinger’s forthcoming conversation with Tho


President’s message to Sullivan
-President’s cable to Kissinger
-Message to Brezhnev

-Vietnam

-Forthcoming Soviet summit


Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Cable from Scowcroft

-Handwritten note

-Disclosure to Brezhnev

-Brezhnev’s response

-Brezhnev’s remarks

-North Vietnam

-Obstinance

-Pressure

-Signatures

-Agreement

-Conciliation

-PRC presence

-US and Soviet Union role

PRC
-Future
-Need for support
-Future power
-Industry, resources, population

-Compared to Japan


Middle East
-Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev

-Soviet Union initiative

-War

-Timing

-Rogers’s talks with Abba Eban

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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Military position [Lebanon]
-Soviet Union intervention
-Seriousness
-Kissinger’s talks with Brezhnev
-Soviet Union position
-Gromyko
-“Roadside” talks [?]
-Interim agreement
-Overall agreement

-Arab position

-Contradiction

-Support for Egypt
-Cairo

-Consistency

-1968 scheme

-Platform 69

-Palestinian-Israel border settlement

-Possibility of war
-Rogers’s assessment
-Anwar el-Sadat

-Thrusts

-Conversations with President, Israel

-Crisis
-Public relations
-Beating
-Soviet Union’s assessment

-Arab defeat

-Rogers’s meeting with Mohammed H. El Zayyat

-New York

-Egypt military

-Compared to Israel
-Israel’s assessment

-Monitoring

-Military

-Diplomats

-United Nations [UN]
-Forthcoming Security Council meeting, May 1973
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Israel, Great Britain

-UN resolution 242

-Possible negotiations
-Israel’s willingness
-Egypt’s willingness
-Hafez Ismail
-Kissinger’s possible meeting with Hafez Ismail
-Paris
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Need for secrecy

-Leaks

-Telegram

-Rogers

-Propositions

-Rogers [?]

-Stalling

-Sisco

-Rogers’s request for brief

-State Department’s role

-Kissinger’s possible statement
-Egypt, Soviet Union

-Secrecy

-Communication

-Ismail’s possible comments
-Back channel
-State Department activities
-Coordination of efforts
-Israel, Great Britain
-Ismail
-Statements to President, Kissinger

-Compared to Rogers

-Request for meeting with Kissinger

-Egypt
-Diplomatic strategy with US
-US relations
-Sisco

-Alfred L. (“Roy”) Atherton

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Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Kissinger’s possible meeting with Ismail
-Consultation
-Need for representation from State Department
-Atherton

-Privacy

-Leak


Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-US bargaining position
-President’s unpredictability
-Possible military strike

-Unpreparedness

-Discretion

-Congressional vote

-US public opinion

-Third option

-Cost

-Immediacy

-Safety

-Opposition

-Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam

-Articles 7, 20, 15, 8

-Implementation

-Economic aid

-Congress

-Cambodia

-Article 20

-Withdrawal

-Possible unilateral cease-fire

-Timing of announcement

-Fighting

-Bombing

-Effects

-Difficulty

-Timing of announcement


Cambodia
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-US military action
-Bombing raids

-B-52s

-Goals

-Psychological effect
-Reluctance to engage militarily
-US bombing
-Collapse
-US support
-Public relations
-US Congress
-Appropriations
-Rider
-John Sherman Cooper-Church Amendment

-Prohibitions on ground troops, advisors

-Possible prohibitions on bombing

-Possible Presidential veto
-Override
-Reduction in US military capability, bargaining position
-Effect on Vietnam settlement
-Vietnam settlement
-Incentives to maintain agreement
-Possible cease-fire
-Economic aid talks
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-Possible effect
-Possible North Vietnam action
-US Congress vote
-US military action
-Possible continuation of bombings
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Possible unilateral cease-fire
-US Congress vote, May 10
-Omission
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB], Defense Department
controller
-Kissinger’s opinion
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-McClellan’s telephone call to Rogers
-Rogers’s testimony to Senate Appropriations Committee
-Rogers’s knowledge
-OMB
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Tenure in office
-Defense Department controller

-Timing of funding request

-Richardson

-Alternative sources of funds for bombing

-Transfer

-Amount

-Richardson

-Congress

-Rogers’s testimony
-Effect on negotiations

-Kissinger’s meeting with Tho

-Economic aid


Latin America
-US Foreign policy
-Significance
-Rogers’s forthcoming trip
-Message from President
-Domestic issues
-Kissinger’s previous trip to Soviet Union
-Focus on forthcoming Soviet summit, “Year of Europe”
-President’s statements in 1958
-Significance of Latin America

-Revolution, coup

-Importance of Latin America

-US priorities
-Compared with Soviet Union, PRC, Europe, Japan
-Hemispheric interests
-Latin America initiatives

-Compared to US policies

-Alliance for progress

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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Paternalism
-Leaders’s meeting
-President’s schedule
-State visits
-Compared to Europe
-Luis Echeverria Alvarez
-Ultimatum
-Compared to individual meetings
-Dwight D. Eisenhower

-Meeting with Hector J. Campara

-Mexico

-Water salinity problem

-President’s approval

-Peru

-Military sales

-Compared with Soviet Union

-Military sales

-President’s views

-Military establishment

-US interest
-US personnel
-Contacts
-Compared to Indonesia

Presidential determination
-Correspondence with Kissinger

Latin America
-Fishing rights
-Japan
-Rogers’s forthcoming trip
-Argentina
-Compared with Europe
-Rogers’s experience in South America, Mexico
-Cities of Latin America
-President’s opinion
-Buenos Aires
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Embassy

Personnel appointments
-Cambodia
-US ambassadorship
-Rogers’s assessment

-Confirmation

-Deputy Chief of Mission

-Recommendation

-William R. Kintner

-Likelihood of confirmation

-Timing

-Bombing
-Compared to Graham Martin
-Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
-Deputy Chief of Mission

-Gen. Richard G. Stilwell

-Deputy Chief of Mission

-Thomas O. Enders

-Confirmation

-Kintner

-Henry A. Byroade

-Rogers’s opinion

-Resignation

-Replacement

-Statements regarding foreign service

-Thomas G. Corcoran

-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield

-Advisability of reposting

-Alternatives

-Relationship with Corcoran

-Democrats

-Kissinger’s knowledge

-[First name unknown] Kendall [?]

-Age

-Kintner

-President’s assessment

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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Thailand
-US ambassadorship
-Cambodia
-Deputy Chief of Mission

-Thomas O. Enders

-Emory C. Swank

-Kissinger’s assessment
-Compared to G. McMurtrie Godley
-Godley
-Thailand
-US ambassadorship
-Kintner
-Cambodia
-Need for change
-Swank
-President’s opinion
-Swank
-Possible posts
-Chad, Uruguay
-Contrasted with Cambodia
-President’s assessment
-San Clemente
-Thailand
-Kintner
-Cambodia
-US ambassadorship
-Timing of decision
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Tho
-Options
-Need for military background
-Compared with Kintner
-Possible confirmation process
-US Congress
-Kintner
-Thailand, Korea
-Response
-Henry Kearns [?]
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Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Carol Clendening (“Carol”) Laise

-State Department Public Affairs Officer

-Relationship with Ellsworth F. Bunker

-Kissinger’s assessment

-Possible role

-Robert Anderson

-Bunker

-Possible position

-Laise


Rogers’s conversation with Warren E. Burger
-Possible position
-Burger’s health

Election Reform Commission
-Membership

-John W. Gardner

-Law school deans

-William Scranton

-Kissinger’s assessment

-University presidents

-Dale Korsten, President of Cornell University

-Charles H. Percy

-Motives

-James Q. Wilson from Harvard University

-Need for balance

-Democrats, Republicans
-Southern

-Dean Rusk

-Terry Sanford

-Contrasted with Dean G. Acheson and Thomas E. Dewey
-McGeorge Bundy

-Motives

-Korsten

-Rogers’s assessment
-Governors
-Jimmy Carter
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Tape Subject Log

(rev. August-2012)

Conversation No. 916-14 (cont’d)

-Challenges
-Honesty

Spiro T. Agnew
-Grand Jury investigation

-Tenure as governor of Maryland

-Campaign contributions and contract awards


Campaign finance reform
-Limitations on contributions

-Amounts

-Methods


Rogers’s forthcoming trip to Latin America

-Timing


Watergate

-Ervin Committee hearings

-Possible effect on trials

-Indictments of John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans

-Compared with Profumo case in Great Britain

-Effect on government politicians

-Rogers’s conversation with George R. S. Baring [Earl of Cromer]

-Press relations


Kissinger and Rogers left at 12:03 pm.
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