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- President Richard M. Nixon
- H. R. Haldeman
- Charles W. Colson
- Ronald L. Ziegler
- Henry Hibbard
- Stephen B. Bull
November 4, 1972
Conversation No. 389-18
Date: November 4, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:02 am and 11:40 am
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Press relations
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Judgment
The President’s schedule
-Charles W. Colson
-Arrival
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Telephone calls
-Value
-George S. McGovern
-Vietnam settlement
-Statement
-21-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Sense of desperation
-Charles W. Colson
-Comments on campaign
-Local campaigns
-Governors
Colson and Ziegler entered at 11:05 am.
The President talked with Henry Hibbard between 11:04 am and 11:06 am.
[Conversation No. 389-18A]
[See Conversation No. 33-33]
[End of telephone conversation]
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown after 11:06 am.
John B. Connally’s [?] schedule
-Cincinnati
-1972 campaign
The President’s schedule
Bull left at an unknown before 11:15 am.
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Tough statement
-Release
-Press conference
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Arrangements
-Media coverage
-Topics of discussion
-Demonstrators
-Meeting with Ziegler
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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1972 campaign
-McGovern speech in Chicago, November 3, 1972
-Response
-Desperation
-Sabotage
-Vietnam negotiations
-Progress
-Desperation, irresponsibility
-Effect on McGovern’s candidacy
-Negotiations
-Effect of McGovern’s comments on Hanoi
-Peace with surrender
-Compared with peace with honor
-Choice for American people in 1968 and 1972
-Statement by Agnew
-McGovern’s irresponsibility
-Praise for Hubert H. Humphrey’s stand on issue
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
-Publicity
-Public reacation
-New England
-McGovern’s credibility
-Accusations against the President
-Television [TV]
-Vietnam negotiations
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Political benefits
-Response
-Ziegler
-Agnew
-The President
-Press
Ziegler and Colson left at 11:15 am.
-Agnew
-Role
-Problems
-Colson’s handling
-Haldeman’s handling
-McGovern speech in Chicago
-Response
-William P. Rogers
-The President’s trips
-Chicago
-Oklahoma
-Mark I. Goode
-Arrangements
-William H. Carruthers
-Chicago
-Problems
-Publicity
-TV
-Arrangements
-Agnew
-Crowds
-Public relations work
-Effectiveness
-Clark MacGregor
-Morale
-Statements
-Attorney General
-Richard G. Kleindienst’s replacement
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
*****************************************************************
Second term reorganization
-Clark MacGregor
-New job
-[United Aircraft Corp]
-Conservatism
-Title
-Vice President
-Location
-Washington, DC
-Duties
-Travel
-Compared to Ronald W. Reagan [job at General Electric]
-Explanation of relationship of business and government to
students
-Expense account
-New establishment
-“Georgetown salon”
-[Barbara Porter (Spicer) MacGregor]
-Thomas W. Braden
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Possible judicial appointment
-Attitude
-White House staff
White House staff
-Attitudes
-Complainers, leakers
-Unknown person
-Internal memorandum
-Writing
-Timing
-Leak
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
1972 campaign
-Letter to the President
-Murray M. Chotiner
-California
-Crowds
-Ohio
-MacGregor
-McGovern
-Press coverage
-James J. Kilpatrick, Jr.
-Column
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Haldeman left at an unknown time before 11:40 am.
Date: November 4, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:02 am and 11:40 am
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Press relations
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Judgment
The President’s schedule
-Charles W. Colson
-Arrival
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Telephone calls
-Value
-George S. McGovern
-Vietnam settlement
-Statement
-21-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Sense of desperation
-Charles W. Colson
-Comments on campaign
-Local campaigns
-Governors
Colson and Ziegler entered at 11:05 am.
The President talked with Henry Hibbard between 11:04 am and 11:06 am.
[Conversation No. 389-18A]
[See Conversation No. 33-33]
[End of telephone conversation]
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown after 11:06 am.
John B. Connally’s [?] schedule
-Cincinnati
-1972 campaign
The President’s schedule
Bull left at an unknown before 11:15 am.
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Tough statement
-Release
-Press conference
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Arrangements
-Media coverage
-Topics of discussion
-Demonstrators
-Meeting with Ziegler
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
1972 campaign
-McGovern speech in Chicago, November 3, 1972
-Response
-Desperation
-Sabotage
-Vietnam negotiations
-Progress
-Desperation, irresponsibility
-Effect on McGovern’s candidacy
-Negotiations
-Effect of McGovern’s comments on Hanoi
-Peace with surrender
-Compared with peace with honor
-Choice for American people in 1968 and 1972
-Statement by Agnew
-McGovern’s irresponsibility
-Praise for Hubert H. Humphrey’s stand on issue
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
-Publicity
-Public reacation
-New England
-McGovern’s credibility
-Accusations against the President
-Television [TV]
-Vietnam negotiations
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Political benefits
-Response
-Ziegler
-Agnew
-The President
-Press
Ziegler and Colson left at 11:15 am.
-Agnew
-Role
-Problems
-Colson’s handling
-Haldeman’s handling
-McGovern speech in Chicago
-Response
-William P. Rogers
-The President’s trips
-Chicago
-Oklahoma
-Mark I. Goode
-Arrangements
-William H. Carruthers
-Chicago
-Problems
-Publicity
-TV
-Arrangements
-Agnew
-Crowds
-Public relations work
-Effectiveness
-Clark MacGregor
-Morale
-Statements
-Attorney General
-Richard G. Kleindienst’s replacement
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
*****************************************************************
Second term reorganization
-Clark MacGregor
-New job
-[United Aircraft Corp]
-Conservatism
-Title
-Vice President
-Location
-Washington, DC
-Duties
-Travel
-Compared to Ronald W. Reagan [job at General Electric]
-Explanation of relationship of business and government to
students
-Expense account
-New establishment
-“Georgetown salon”
-[Barbara Porter (Spicer) MacGregor]
-Thomas W. Braden
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Possible judicial appointment
-Attitude
-White House staff
White House staff
-Attitudes
-Complainers, leakers
-Unknown person
-Internal memorandum
-Writing
-Timing
-Leak
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
1972 campaign
-Letter to the President
-Murray M. Chotiner
-California
-Crowds
-Ohio
-MacGregor
-McGovern
-Press coverage
-James J. Kilpatrick, Jr.
-Column
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Haldeman left at an unknown time before 11:40 am.
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