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475–24
- Keith J. Holyoake
- Emil "Bus" Mosbacher
- White House photographer
- Henry A. Kissinger
April 8, 1971
Conversation No. 475-24
Date: April 8, 1971 Conv. No. 475-23 (cont.)
Time: 4:23 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Sir Keith J. Holyoake and Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.; the White House
photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting
Greetings
[General conversation]
-Picture-taking session
Gift for President
[General conversation]
President’s forthcoming trip to California
[Camera noise]
Schedule
President’s trip to New Zealand
-Scheduling
President’s visit to New Zealand
-Auckland, Wellington
President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971
-Excellence
-Technique
-Reaction
Vietnam
-Attitude of country
61
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Forthcoming demonstrations
-Staff’s reaction
-Draft, combat, withdrawal date
-President’s policies
-President’s critics
-New Zealand and Australia
-Interest in US Southeast Asia policies
-Forces in Vietnam Conv. No. 475-23 (cont.)
-US withdrawal plans
-Communist threat in Southeast Asia
-US policy
-North Vietnam
-US withdrawal plans
-Rate
-General Nguyen Van Thieu and Ellsworth F. Bunker
-US losses
-Marine sergeant [Karl Taylor]
-President’s critics
New Zealand
-Agriculture
-President’s conversation with Clifford M. Hardin
-Regard for New Zealand interests
-Lamb
-President’s previous conversation with Holyoake
-American consumption
-Production
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 4:30 pm
-Population
-Human, lamb
-Lamb
-Sheep-growing industry
-Cooperation with Australia
-Export to US
-US consumption
-Merchandisers
-Production
-Great Britain
-Butchers
-Exports
62
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Production
-Great Britain
-Butchers
-Consumers
-Exports to US
-Frozen food
-Consumers
-Increase of quotas Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-US
-Australia
-Levels
-Agriculture
-Compared with US
-Subsidy problem
-Dairy products
-Specialization
-Meat and dairy products
-Exports
-Levels
-Diversification
-Trade
-Trade decline
-Inflation
-Increase in prices of imports
-Standard of living
-Compared to Europe
-Drop
-Importance of trade
-Trade with Japan
-Market
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 17s ]
JAPAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
63
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
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-Standard of living
-Drop
-Overseas trade
-Percentage of Gross National Product [GNP]
-Compared with US Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-Fluctuations in world market
-Dairy products
Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP]
-Meeting
-Peter G. Peterson
-Bell and Howell
-Kissinger
-Functions
-Coordination of State, Agriculture, and Commerce Departments
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 39s ]
MEXICO
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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US relations with New Zealand
-Review
-Departments of State and Agriculture
-Agricultural lobby
Great Britain’s entry into Common Market
-Effect on New Zealand
-Impact
-Special arrangements with New Zealand
-Holyoake’s conversation with Willy Brandt
64
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Bonn
-New Zealand’s special relationship with Great Britain
-Exports
-Lamb, dairy products
-British quota system
-Butter
-French butter production
-Arrangements between Great Britain and New Zealand Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-French reaction
-British proposals
-Lamb
-US response to New Zealand
-Hardin
-Holyoake’s appreciation
-Need for special arrangements with Great Britain
-President’s conversation with Edward R. G. Heath
-Reluctance of Britain to enter Common Market
New Zealand exports
-Butter
-World market
-Milk
-Demand for non-fat products
-Cholesterol
-Stress, diet
-Eggs, milk, butter
-President’s level
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
Blood pressure, cholesterol
-Eisenhower
-Cholesterol
-Heart attack
-Blood pressure
-President’s blood pressure
-Cholesterol level
-Heart attack
Butter consumption
-US level
-New Zealand level
65
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Heart attack levels
-New Zealand compared with US
Egg consumption
Kissinger’s health
-Cholesterol, blood pressure
Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
Kissinger left at 4:48 pm
Holyoake’s trip to London
-Southeast Asia Treaty Organization [SEATO] conference
-Meeting of five powers
-Britain, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand
Great Britain
-Presence in Southeast Asia
-Heath
-Position in world
-US presence in Southeast Asia
-Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
-Presence in Southeast Asia
-British public opinion
-Singapore
-Isolationism
-Heath
-Strength
-Previous meeting with President
-Douglas-Home
Southeast Asia
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 4m 6s ]
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
66
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Holyoake’s trip to London
-President’s greeting to Heath, Douglas-Home
-Australian Prime Minister William McMahon Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-Wilbur Manns [?]
-John G. Gorton, Australian Minister of Defense
-President’s greetings to Gorton
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Privacy]
[Duration: 13s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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-Paul Matthews
-Harold E. Holt
-Gorton
-Manns
President’s past trips to Europe
-Heath
-Asia
Holyoake’s trip to Europe
-European Economic Community [EEC]
-British entry into Common Market
-Meeting with Brandt, Georges J. R. Pompidou and Emilio Colombo
-New Prime Ministers in West Germany, France and Italy
-Brandt
-Mariano rumor
-Colombo
-Italy
-Economy
67
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
President’s health
President’s speech on Southeast Asia
-Reaction
-Vietnam
-US goals
-South Vietnamese operation in Laos
Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
Presidential gift
-Presentation
-Norma (Ingram) Holyoake
-Bow tie with Presidential Seal
-Cufflinks
Holyoake’s schedule
-Meeting in Kissinger’s office
Rose Garden
US friendship with New Zealand
-President’s letter to Holyoake
President’s greeting to N. Holyoake
Holyoake and Mosbacher left at 4:59 pm
Date: April 8, 1971 Conv. No. 475-23 (cont.)
Time: 4:23 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Sir Keith J. Holyoake and Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.; the White House
photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting
Greetings
[General conversation]
-Picture-taking session
Gift for President
[General conversation]
President’s forthcoming trip to California
[Camera noise]
Schedule
President’s trip to New Zealand
-Scheduling
President’s visit to New Zealand
-Auckland, Wellington
President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971
-Excellence
-Technique
-Reaction
Vietnam
-Attitude of country
61
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Forthcoming demonstrations
-Staff’s reaction
-Draft, combat, withdrawal date
-President’s policies
-President’s critics
-New Zealand and Australia
-Interest in US Southeast Asia policies
-Forces in Vietnam Conv. No. 475-23 (cont.)
-US withdrawal plans
-Communist threat in Southeast Asia
-US policy
-North Vietnam
-US withdrawal plans
-Rate
-General Nguyen Van Thieu and Ellsworth F. Bunker
-US losses
-Marine sergeant [Karl Taylor]
-President’s critics
New Zealand
-Agriculture
-President’s conversation with Clifford M. Hardin
-Regard for New Zealand interests
-Lamb
-President’s previous conversation with Holyoake
-American consumption
-Production
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 4:30 pm
-Population
-Human, lamb
-Lamb
-Sheep-growing industry
-Cooperation with Australia
-Export to US
-US consumption
-Merchandisers
-Production
-Great Britain
-Butchers
-Exports
62
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Production
-Great Britain
-Butchers
-Consumers
-Exports to US
-Frozen food
-Consumers
-Increase of quotas Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-US
-Australia
-Levels
-Agriculture
-Compared with US
-Subsidy problem
-Dairy products
-Specialization
-Meat and dairy products
-Exports
-Levels
-Diversification
-Trade
-Trade decline
-Inflation
-Increase in prices of imports
-Standard of living
-Compared to Europe
-Drop
-Importance of trade
-Trade with Japan
-Market
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 17s ]
JAPAN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
63
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
******************************************************************************
-Standard of living
-Drop
-Overseas trade
-Percentage of Gross National Product [GNP]
-Compared with US Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-Fluctuations in world market
-Dairy products
Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP]
-Meeting
-Peter G. Peterson
-Bell and Howell
-Kissinger
-Functions
-Coordination of State, Agriculture, and Commerce Departments
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 39s ]
MEXICO
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
******************************************************************************
US relations with New Zealand
-Review
-Departments of State and Agriculture
-Agricultural lobby
Great Britain’s entry into Common Market
-Effect on New Zealand
-Impact
-Special arrangements with New Zealand
-Holyoake’s conversation with Willy Brandt
64
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Bonn
-New Zealand’s special relationship with Great Britain
-Exports
-Lamb, dairy products
-British quota system
-Butter
-French butter production
-Arrangements between Great Britain and New Zealand Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-French reaction
-British proposals
-Lamb
-US response to New Zealand
-Hardin
-Holyoake’s appreciation
-Need for special arrangements with Great Britain
-President’s conversation with Edward R. G. Heath
-Reluctance of Britain to enter Common Market
New Zealand exports
-Butter
-World market
-Milk
-Demand for non-fat products
-Cholesterol
-Stress, diet
-Eggs, milk, butter
-President’s level
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
Blood pressure, cholesterol
-Eisenhower
-Cholesterol
-Heart attack
-Blood pressure
-President’s blood pressure
-Cholesterol level
-Heart attack
Butter consumption
-US level
-New Zealand level
65
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Heart attack levels
-New Zealand compared with US
Egg consumption
Kissinger’s health
-Cholesterol, blood pressure
Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
Kissinger left at 4:48 pm
Holyoake’s trip to London
-Southeast Asia Treaty Organization [SEATO] conference
-Meeting of five powers
-Britain, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand
Great Britain
-Presence in Southeast Asia
-Heath
-Position in world
-US presence in Southeast Asia
-Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
-Presence in Southeast Asia
-British public opinion
-Singapore
-Isolationism
-Heath
-Strength
-Previous meeting with President
-Douglas-Home
Southeast Asia
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 4m 6s ]
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
66
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Holyoake’s trip to London
-President’s greeting to Heath, Douglas-Home
-Australian Prime Minister William McMahon Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
-Wilbur Manns [?]
-John G. Gorton, Australian Minister of Defense
-President’s greetings to Gorton
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Privacy]
[Duration: 13s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
******************************************************************************
-Paul Matthews
-Harold E. Holt
-Gorton
-Manns
President’s past trips to Europe
-Heath
-Asia
Holyoake’s trip to Europe
-European Economic Community [EEC]
-British entry into Common Market
-Meeting with Brandt, Georges J. R. Pompidou and Emilio Colombo
-New Prime Ministers in West Germany, France and Italy
-Brandt
-Mariano rumor
-Colombo
-Italy
-Economy
67
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
President’s health
President’s speech on Southeast Asia
-Reaction
-Vietnam
-US goals
-South Vietnamese operation in Laos
Conv. No. 475-24 (cont.)
Presidential gift
-Presentation
-Norma (Ingram) Holyoake
-Bow tie with Presidential Seal
-Cufflinks
Holyoake’s schedule
-Meeting in Kissinger’s office
Rose Garden
US friendship with New Zealand
-President’s letter to Holyoake
President’s greeting to N. Holyoake
Holyoake and Mosbacher left at 4:59 pm