498–2

Conversation No. 498-2

Date: May 13, 1971
Time: 9:28 am - 10:03 am Conv. No. 498-1/499-2 (cont.)
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger and H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
The recording began while the meeting was in progress. Discontinuities appear in the original
recording

Vietnam
-Michael J. (“Mike) Mansfield's proposal
-Unknown man's response
-Jacob K. Javits
-Calls to Kissinger
-Speech, travel plans
-Possible vote
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-\"Establishment\"
-David Rockefeller

[The President talked with William P. Rogers between 9:35 am and 9:41 am]

[Conversation No. 498-2A]


[See Conversation No. 3-41]

[End of telephone conversation]

-Rogers' forthcoming meeting with Mansfield
-Dean Rusk
-Health
-Support for the President
-Dean G. Acheson

US troops in Europe
-Administration Policy
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-Senate's Role
-Charles H. Percy
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Mansfield Amendment
-Cyrus R. Vance's schedule
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Muskie's views
-Vance's conversation with Kissinger
-Humphrey
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy's views
-\"Establishment,\" Democrats
-The President's schedule
-Acheson
-Nicholas de B. Katzenbach
-A meeting of a hospital board
-Location
-Cabinet Room
-Rogers, Melvin R. Laird, Andrew J. Goodpaster
-Seating arrangements
-Rogers, Laird, Acheson, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

Agnew's relations with Vance

The President's meeting
-Vance's schedule
-Clark M. Clifford
-W[illiam] Averell Harriman
-Views regarding the President's reelection compared with other attendees
-Health
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-Relations with Acheson

US troops in Europe
-Muskie's views
-William A.K. (“Tony”) Lake

The President's views on issues during the 1960's
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] Conv. No 498-2 (cont.)
-\"Establishment\"


The President's policies
-Acheson's views
-Cambodia
-Intervention

Korea
-Acheson's Views
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-China
-Cambodia

Vietnam
-Laotian incursion (Lam Som)
-Public opinion
-Casualties
-Effectiveness
-Absence of spring offensive
-Military dispositions
-Instructions for Thomas H. Moorer
-Bombing plans
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Announcement of the President's Forthcoming Visit to USSR
-Negotiations
-Bombing
-The President’s instruction
-Timing
-Le Duan
-Visits to USSR and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]

Forthcoming Announcement
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-Message to PRC

The President's Schedule
-Robert D. Murphy


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Conv. No 498-2 (cont.)
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Rogers
-The President's schedule
-Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with Gerard C. Smith
-Possible reaction to news
-The President's schedule
-Smith
-Rogers
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin

[Unintelligible]

Kissinger left at 9:57 am

Polls

An unknown man

SST
-Humphrey

Welfare reform
-Press reports
-Washington Post
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-Ronald L. Ziegler's possible comments
-The President's schedule
-John W. Gardner and head of Congress of Industrial Organization [CIO]
-Implications
-Popular opinion
-Public relations
-Staff's view
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan Conv. No 498-2 (cont.)
-The President's schedule
-Edward L. Morgan's view
-H.R. 1
-Popular opinion
-Public relations
-Ziegler, Herbert G. Klein, Agnew

SST
-House vote, May 12, 1971
-Gerald R. Ford
-Press coverage

House of Representatives
-Ford, Carl B. Albert

Connally
-Conversation with Ford
-Joseph C. Kraft's attacks
-Liberals' views

National economy
-Gross National Product [GNP] Statistics
-Release date
-Forthcoming briefings
-Paul W. McCracken
-Herbert Stein
-William L. Safire
-News magazines
-U.S. News & World Report
-Status of inventories

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 10:02 am

[Unintelligible]
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The President's schedule
-Roger E. Johnson

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 10:03 am

-Florida trip
-Weather Conv. No 498-2 (cont.)


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The President's schedule
-Arrangements for Florida trip

Haldeman left at 10:03 am