620–12

Conversation No. 620-12

Date: November 17, 1971
Time: 11:06 am - 12:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald W. Reagan; Stephen B. Bull and members of the press were
present at the beginning of the meeting.

Reagan's schedule
-Henry A. Kissinger
-John N. Mitchell

Photographs

Mitchell

Bull and the press left at an unknown time before 11:09 am.

Leaves

Reagan’s Far East trip
-Chiang Kai-Shek
-Konrad Adenauer

Mitchell and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. entered at 11:09 am.

Reagan's previous conversation with Kissinger

Reagan's trip
-Meeting with Chiang
-The President's forthcoming trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
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-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Military deployment
-US Senators
-Political considerations
-Hubert H. Humphrey, Edmund S. Muskie, Edward M. Kennedy and
Henry M. Jackson
-Thailand, Taiwan, Republic of China

Thailand
-Coup
-Thanom Kittikachorn
-US interests

Reagan's trip
-Meeting with Chiang
-Tone
-Politics
-Trade
-US treaty commitments
-Meeting with Vice President of Taiwan, Republic of China
-Chiang's call to Trade Minister
-Meeting with Vice President of Taiwan
-Meeting with Chiang and (Madame) Chiang Mayling Soong
-Nancy Reagan


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-Taiwanese soldiers
-Esprit de Corps
-Compared to Americans
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-The President's visit in 1967
-Madame Chiang
-Letters
-Health
-Meeting with Chiang
-US treaty commitments
-The President's forthcoming visit to PRC
-Purpose
-Singapore
-Industrial Park
-Japan
-Competition with US
-Construction
-Contracts
-US anti-trust laws
-Peter G. Peterson
-Subsidies
-Government role

Supreme Court
-Decisions
-Nominations
-Unknown judge
-Senate
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Meeting with the President, November 16, 1971
-Amchitka

Amchitka
-Public mail
-Sierra Club
-Environmentalists
-Supreme Court decision
-The President's possible action
-National security
-The President's conversation with Kissinger
-Testing
-The President's statement at dinner

Supreme Court
-William H. Rehnquist and Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
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-William J. Brennan, Jr., Thurgood Marshall and William O. Douglas

United States anti-trust laws
-Study committee

Singapore
-Chinese

Reagan's trip
-Singapore
-Dinner
-Embassy
-Public housing
-Reagan’s speech
-Compared to suburbia
-Private ownership
-Financing for ownership
-Government role

Public housing
-Value of ownership
-Example
-Nelson A. Rockefeller's co-op program
-George W. Romney
-Miami
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Inhabitants
-Press
-Comparison
-Pruitt-Igoe
-St. Louis

Reagan's trip
-Singapore
-Lee Kuan Yew
-Bangkok


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THAILAND


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-Insurgency
-Morale
-Textiles
-Quota
-Export
-Reagan’s effort
-Demonstration
-Rubber
-Public Law 480 Aid
-Matching funds
-The President's possible notes regarding forthcoming visit to PRC
-Thailand
-Lee Kwan Yew
-Treaty
-Korea
-Textiles
-Park Chung Hee

Foreign aid
-Senators' views
-Humanitarian aid
-Military aid
-Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand
-Stennis Amendment
-California Senators
-Arizona Senators
-Senators' views
-Vietnam
-Turkey and Greece
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-Isolationism
-Foreign military aid
-Vietnam
-Korea
-US troops
-Military capability
-Park
-The President’s forthcoming letter

Reagan's trip
-Korea
-Meeting with Park
-Taiwan
-United Nations [UN] vote
-Student riots
-Berkeley, California
-Use of troops
-Draft
-Gen. Sese Seko Mobutu

US students
-Berkeley
-City Council’s policy regarding deserters
-US attorney
-Statement

Amnesty
-The President's press conference of November 12, 1971
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Choices
-Executive clemency
-1972 Democratic platform
-Development of administration policy
-News summary

Reagan's trip
-Japan
-Eisaku Sato
-Views regarding US economic policy
-Visits to PRC
-Unknown businessman
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-North Korea
-Takeo Fukuda and Sato
-Conversations with Reagan
-North Korea
-Taiwan
-Albanian resolution in UN
-South Korea
-US military presence in South Korea


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TAIWAN


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-International monetary policy
-Fukuda
-Conversation with Edward R.G. Heath
-Bet
-South Korea
-Japanese constitution
-Okinawa


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JAPAN


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Haig left at 11:45 am.

Plan
-Unknown person

Reagan’s trip
-Saigon
-Food
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Reagan's statements
-Trade
-California
-US treaty commitments
-UN vote on Taiwan
-Chiang Kai Shek

Asia
-Rimland
-Population
-Governments
-Japan
-Indonesia
-Philippines, Thailand, Taiwan
-Importance

Reagan's trip
-US Ambassador to Singapore [Charles T. Cross]
-Saigon
-Trade mission
-Previous experience
-Dinner for Reagan
-Age
-US Ambassadors to Taiwan and Japan, Walter P. McConaughy and Armin H. Meyer
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-US Abassador to Korea, Philip C. Habib

Experimental welfare program
-Reagan's negotiations with Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Analogy
-Screen Actors Guild
-Numbers of people and regions affected
-Counties
-Duration of agreement
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Numbers of people affected
-Phase-in procedures
-Reagan's conversation with James M. Hall in California
-HEW's agreement with New York
-Differences between California and New York
-Reagan's programs
-Reagan’s public speaking
-Reporters actions
-Articles
-Effect on numbers on welfare rolls
-Mitchell’s schedule
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Richardson
-HEW
-Deal with New York
-Duration of agreement with California
-Numbers involved
-Reagan's negotiations with HEW
-Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Riverside and Orange
Counties
-Law on public service employees
-Reagan’s conversation with Richardson
-Bureaucracy
-Illinois, New York, California
-Richard B. Ogilvie's conversation with Reagan
-Tokenism
-Rockefeller
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Welfare
-Charles H. Percy's amendment
-Possible reform
-Francis W. Sargent's wire to Reagan
-Wires to John V. Tunney and Alan Cranston
-The Administration’s position

Percy
-Comments at dinner
-The President’s legislative program
-Reagan's comments
-Legislative record
-Foreign policy
-Vietnam
-Cooper-Church Amendment
-Mansfield Amendment
-Reagan’s comments
-Statement regarding the President's foreign policy
-Leslie C. Arends's views

Child care centers
-Walter F. Mondale Bill
-Possible veto
-Provisions
-Tax package
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Possible wire
-Purpose
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-Functions
-World War II
-Women volunteers
-\"Rosie the Rivetter\"
-Catholic Church

The President’s schedule
-Lunch


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Republican support for the President
-Reagan's conversation with Kissinger
-UN vote on Taiwan
-State Department
-The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Taiwan
-National defense
-Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM]
-Liberals
-Amchitka
-Budget
-Cambodia, Laos, unilateral withdrawal from Asia
-The Presidency
-National defense
-Reagan's efforts
-John F. Kennedy
-Cuban Missile Crises
-Missile Gap
-1960 campaign
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-ABM
-Eisenhower years
-Possible briefings by the President
-Possible attacks on liberals
-Possible briefings
-Congressional leaders
-Size
-Kissinger
-Schedule
-Cincinnati
-Reagan's conversation with unknown publisher
-Possible Democratic candidates in 1972
-Editorial
-The President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Democrats
-Relations with Reagan
-James L. Buckley
-New York, Texas
-William F. Buckley

The President’s schedule
-Reagan’s schedule

National security
-The President's difficulties with Congress
-US role in world
-ABM
-USAir Force
-Navy
-Minuteman fields
-US foreign policy initiatives
-Japan and West Germany
-USSR
-Armaments
-Compared to US
-Missile, airplanes, submarines
-Multiple Independently Targeted Re-entry Vehicles [MIRV]
-Support
-Negotiations with USSR and PRC
-Possible military build up
-Offensive weapons
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-The President's difficulties with Congress
-ABM vote
-Agnew
-Possible issue in 1972 campaign
-Jackson
-American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations
[AFL-CIO] endorsement
-Nomination
-Humphrey, Muskie and Edward M. Kennedy
-Voting records
-ABM
-Environment, ghettoes, child care centers
-Jackson
-Negotiations
-Federal budget
-California
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger

Stephen B. Bull entered at 12:30 pm.

Reagan's schedule
-Press room

The President et al left at 12:30 pm.