690–8

Conversation No. 690-8

Date: March 21, 1972
Time: 11:00 am - 12:36 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Nihat Erim and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.; members of the press and the
White House photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting; the conversation began
in progress.

Arrangement of chairs

The President’s previous visit to Turkey while Vice President

[Photograph session]
-Peking

Press
-Pens

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s previous visit to Istanbul

Haig
-Introductions
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]

Haig left at 11:06 am.

Turkey
-President [Cevdet Sunay]
-The President’s forthcoming Soviet trip
-Stay in Istanbul or Ankara
-Bosphorous
-Soviet Union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Bulgaria
-Iraq
-Syria
-Baath party

Haig returned at 11:07 am.

Prime minister
-Cigars

The President’s forthcoming trip to Moscow
-Stay in Istanbul

Celal Akbay entered at 11:09 am.

-Congressional session
-Timing
-Request
-The President’s possible visit

Turkey
-The President’s view
-Border countries
-The President's possible trip
-Erim
-Anniversary of Administration
-Government
-Border countries
-Subversives
-NATO
-Democratic system
-Turkey compared to Czechoslavakia
-Death of Jan Masaryk, 1948
-Army
-Military coup
-Attempted overthrow of government, March 9, 1971
-Terrorists
-Description of activities
-Communists
-Universities
-High schools
-Establishment of new government
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Erim
-Terrorists
-Murder of Cunsul General of Israel
-Bank robbings
-Attacks on wealthy
-Erim
-Martial law
-Anarchists
-Communists
-Criticism
-International law
-Turkish constitution
-Laws
-Independent judiciary
-Opposition newspapers
-Average citizens
-International organizations
-Stockholm
-East Germany
-West Germany
-Turkish workers abroad
-Kurt G. Kiesinger
-Willy Brandt
-Palestine
-Turkish young people
-Support for organizations
-NATO
-Visit of US Sixth Fleet
-Terrorists
-Communists
-NATO
-Relations with the US and other allies
-Terrorist organization
-Young Turkish military officers
-Military prison
-Young people
-Mao Tse-tung
-Karl Marx
-Che Guevara
-Reorganization of the army
-Upgrade weapons
-Aircraft
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Pilots
-Soviet-sponsored socialism
-Nikita S. Khrushchev
-West Germany
-France
-Jacques Chaban-Delmas
-Terrorist movement
-Army
-Universities
-High schools
-Professors
-Army
-Communists
-Youth
-Greece
-Army
-Response from NATO members
-Comparison to turkey
-Military commaders
-Politics
-Professional
-Population growth
-Rate of growth
-Border area
-Iran
-Iraq
-Syria
-Five year plan
-Standard of living
-Higher standard
-Schools
-Jobs
-Export laborers
-US support
-World Bank
-Technological assistance
-Poppies
-William J. Handley
-New crops
-US aid since 1947
-Impact on the US
-New York Times article
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Families
-Opium
-Halt to smuggling
-Handley
-Turkish farmers
-Compensation
-Monetary worth of poppy crop
-Success of program
-Example for other programs
-Roadways
-US program, 1947
-Agriculture
-US role
-Military morale
-Link with economic and social situation
-Subversive propaganda
-Individual income levels
-Compared to Italy
-Membership in European Economic Community
-Erim's meeting with Robert S. McNamara
-World Bank investment
-Erim's analysis
-The President’s view
-Relations with the US
-Alliance
-Turkish economy
-Haig’s forthcoming call to McNamara
-World Bank
-Erim's possible meeting with John B. Connally
-Forthcoming dinner
-Programs
-Agriculture
-Agency for International Development [AID]
-John A. Hannah
-Turkish climate
-Compared to California
-US success
-US congress
-Isolationism
-Decrease in military assistance budget
-Decrease in assistance to Turkey
-NATO
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Effect
-Radical forces
-World Bank
-Export-import Bank
-Henry Kearns
-Connally
-Turkish foreign minister
-William P. Rogers
-The PRC trip
-The President’s forthcoming Soviet trip
-Free world
-Desire for peace
-US relations with the Soviet Union
-Turkish interests
-Soviet Union and the PRC
-Support of revolutionary forces
-Communique
-Renunciation of force
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-New York Times
-US-Turkey alliance
-Internal subversion
-Turkey
-France
-West Germany
-Britain
-Italy
-Détente
-US-Soviet and US-PRC relations
-Non-communist nations
-Organization in attempt to defense against Communism
-Support for NATO
-Efforts to stop subversives
-The President's meetings with the Soviets and Chinese
-Arms control agreement
-Agreements
-Communist goals
-Khrushchev
-Negotiations
-Economics
-Communist philosophy
-Soviets
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Allies
-Polish
-Romanians
-Czechs
-PRC
-Nuclear power
-Brezhnev
-Relations with the Soviet Union
-Relations with the US
-Seeking better relations
-Relations with the US
-Understanding among nations of the free world
-Friendships
-Philosophies
-Cooperation with other nations
-Soviets
-Chinese
-Self-interest
-Romanians
-Philosophy of the non-communist world
-Europe
-Asia
-Nations around the rim of the PRC
-Japan
-Parliamentary democracies
-Oligarchies
-US relations with the PRC
-US relations with the Soviet Union
-US relations with other nations
-Pledge not to desert friends
-Erim's visit to the US
-PRC
-The President's trip
-Erim’s view
-Population
-Soviet Ambassador to Turkey
-The need for Turkey to remain non-Communist
-Arab countries
-Oil fields
-\"Fire wall\"
-Turkey’s Western orientation
-Soviet union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Military defense
-Social defense
-Economic defense
-Erim
-Support from the military
-NATO
-Communist propaganda
-Effect
-NATO
-US
-West Germany
-France
-Defense
-NATO
-Soviet Union
-Nuclear arms
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Subversion activity
-Human rights
-West Germany
-France
-Turkey
-West Germany
-Military
-Bulgaria
-Tanks
-Compared to Turkish tanks
-Refueling time
-Need for more US support
-Iraq
-Syria
-Tanks
-Turkish needs
-Report to the president
-Instructions to Haig
-Comparison of US and Soviet tanks
-Vietnam
-M-60
-Relations with the US
-Defense of turkey
-Communist propaganda
-Military equipment
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-F-84 aircraft
-Phantoms
-France
-Possible Turkish purchases
-Mysteres
-Mirages
-Communist propaganda
-US military equipment
-Report to the President

Cyprus
-London-Zurich Agreement of 1959
-Greece
-Turkey
-Great Britain
-Greek government
-George Papadopoulos
-Greek-Turkish relations
-NATO
Aegean Sea


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-Turkish view
-London-Zurich Agreements of 1959
-Mixed rule
-Representation in government
-Michael Mouskos [Archbishop Makarios III]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Erim’s view
-William P. Rogers’s previous visit to Turkey
-Soviet Union
-Czechoslovakian arms
-Comparison to Egypt
-Anwar el-Sadat
-Resignation of Makarios
-Papadopoulos
-Relations with the US and Britain
-Holy Synod of the Cyprost Orthodox Church
-Possible compromise
-1960 Cypriot Constitution
-US relations with Makarios
-Possible rejection of 1959 agreement
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s previous trip to Turkey
-Agnew’s help with Greece
-Relations with the US
-Makarios
-The President’s view
-Soviet Union
-Marxism in Cyprus
-Recent election

Soviets
-Naval presence in the Dardanelles
-Mediterranean fleet
-Cairo
-US Sixth Fleet
-Purpose
-Middle east
-Egyptians
-Israel
-Mediterranean
-Turkey
-Africa
-US policy

Turkey’s relations with neighboring countries
-Need for strong Turkish defense
-Communiqué
-Independence of Turkey
-Erim’s visit to the US
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Dardanelles
-Harry S. Truman Doctrine
-The President’s vote as a member of Congress
-Dean G. Acheson
-Meeting with Erim, 1964
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Erim’s role in drafting 1960 Cypriot Constitution
-Pakistan
-Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s previous trip to Turkey
-Central Treaty Organization [CENTO]
-US
-The President’s previous meeting with the new Secretary General [Nassir
Assar]
-Symbolic rather than military value
-Pakistan
-Iran
-Turkey
-Bangladesh
-Turkish recognition
-US recognition
-India

Stephen B. Bull entered and left at an unknown time before 12:36 pm.

Erim’s schedule
-Automobile

Turkey’s relations with neighboring countries
-Bhutto’s meeting with Erim
-Mujibar Rahman
-Possible intermediary role for Erim
-Pakistan’s recognition of Bangladesh
-Large Muslim population
-India
-Pakistan
-The President’s view

Turkey
-Relations with the Soviet Union
-Erim’s forthcoming visit with Nikolai V. Podgorny
-Non-aggression treaties
-NATO
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Turkey’s obligations to other members
-France
-Consultation agreement
-Afghanistan
-Iran
-France
-Other NATO members
-Forthcoming US-Soviet meeting
-NATO forces
-Andrei A. Gromyko
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Forthcoming State dinner
-Erim and the president
-Further talks
-Mrs. Nixon and Mrs. Erim
-Erim's talks with the President
-US support for Turkey
-Iran
-Syria
-Iraq
-Bulgaria
-Relations with the US
-Turkey’s role in world affairs
-Government
-Parliamentary
-Dictatorship
-The President’s instructions to Haig
-McNamara and Connally
-Meetings with Erim
-Paul A. Volcker
-Hannah
-AID
-Military matters
-Communiqué
-Turkish wishes

The President's schedule
-Drug bill [Special Action Office for Drug Addiction Prevention] signing
-Rehabilitation program for drug addicts

Turkey
-Drugs
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)

Conv. No. 690-8 (cont.)
-Opium
-Smugglers
-Iran

The President, et al. left at 12:36 pm.