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870–4
- President Richard M. Nixon
- Stephen B. Bull
- Robert B. Pamplin
- UNKNOWN
March 6, 1973
Conversation No. 870-4
Date: March 6, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:20 pm and 4:46 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Stephen B. Bull.
William P. Rogers
-Briefing [?]
Robert B. Pamplin entered at 4:22 pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning
of the meeting.
President's schedule
-William H. Carruthers [?]
Bull left at 4:22 pm.
President's meeting with mayors
Georgia-Pacific Co.
-Owen [surname unintelligible]
Pamplin's praise for President
-Problems
Congress
-Budget and spending issues
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 4:22 pm.
Refreshment
-Pepsi-Cola
-Donald McI. Kendall [?]
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:46 pm.
Federal Trade Commission [FTC] decision against Georgia-Pacific Co.
-During President’s administration
-13-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Miles W. Kirkpatrick
-Successor to Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger as chairman
-Crusaders
-Problems of enforcement
-Georgia-Pacific Co. plants in South
-Plywood manufacture
-Price of timber
-Housing boom
-Increases
-Charges against Georgia-Pacific Co.
-Small firms
-Reasons
-Housing boom
-Timber rights in South
-Solution to problem
-Spin-off company
-Louisiana Pacific
-Problems with expansion
-Plywood production
-Increased prices
-Small producers
-Conflict with Georgia-Pacific Co.
-Monopoly claim
-Oil analogy
-Supplies
-Solution
-FTC cooperativeness
-Alan Waller [?]
Big business
-Work with courts
-Work with independent administrative agencies
-Civil Aeronautics board [CAB], Interstate Commerce Commission [ICC],
FCC
Administration's appointments
-John B. Connally
-Radicals
-14-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Commissions
-Roles
-Judge compared with advocate role
-Compared with a court of law
-Interpretation of existing law
-Supreme Court: Warren E. Burger, Harry A. Blackmun, William H. Rehnquist,
Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Possible replacement for William O. Douglas
-Importance of appointments
-Tenure in office
-Federal Power Commission
-Delays
-Natural gas
-Price
-Production
-Energy crisis
-Difficulty filling appointments
-Salary
-Political aspects of appointment
-Qualifications [?]
-Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
-Director
-Bureaucracy
-Leftists
-Lawyers, accountants
-New Deal
-Attacks on big business
-Administration policies
-Fairness toward business interests
US wood exports to Japan
-West Coast
-As customers
-Integration with Japan’s sawmills
-Lumber
-Imports of timbers
-Housing boom
-Home builder complaints in US
-15-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Japan’s pricing practices
-Lumber compared with logs
-Impact on US jobs
-Impact on housing industry
-Supplies
-Canada
-Wood pulp, chips, logs
-Other exporters
-Need to maintain trade
-Restrictions
-Public compared to private
-Weyhauser Co.
-Impact on foreign exchange
-Chips
-Lumber mill by-product
-Excess
-Creation of pulp
-Japanese as customers
Pamplin's visit to Japan
-Japan’s trade plans
-Joint ventures in US
US-Japan relations
-Importance
Pennsylvania Railroad
-Labor problems
-Need for correction
-Danger of spreading
-Effects on industry
-Competition
-Customers
-Japan [?]
-Efficiency
-Steel strike
-1959 settlement
-Roger Blough, Conrad Cooper, Arthur Goldberg
-16-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Work rules issue
-Union intransigence
Unions
-Wage increases
-Food price increases
-Membership pressure
-Rate of inflation
-Real wages
-Production
Inflation
-Compared with other countries
-Japan
-West Germany
-Great Britain
-Italy
-France
-Japan
-Wage increases
-Decline of real wages
Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Effect of return on the American people
Farmers
-Subsidies
-Competition with People’s Republic of China [PRC], Unions of Soviet
Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Prices
-Increased production
-Decline of dependence on government, self-respect
-Programs
-Cuts
-Congress
President's business philosophy
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-17-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Labor leaders
-Support for business
-George Meany, Frank E. Fitzsimmons
Pamplin left at 4:46 pm.
Date: March 6, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:20 pm and 4:46 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Stephen B. Bull.
William P. Rogers
-Briefing [?]
Robert B. Pamplin entered at 4:22 pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning
of the meeting.
President's schedule
-William H. Carruthers [?]
Bull left at 4:22 pm.
President's meeting with mayors
Georgia-Pacific Co.
-Owen [surname unintelligible]
Pamplin's praise for President
-Problems
Congress
-Budget and spending issues
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 4:22 pm.
Refreshment
-Pepsi-Cola
-Donald McI. Kendall [?]
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:46 pm.
Federal Trade Commission [FTC] decision against Georgia-Pacific Co.
-During President’s administration
-13-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Miles W. Kirkpatrick
-Successor to Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger as chairman
-Crusaders
-Problems of enforcement
-Georgia-Pacific Co. plants in South
-Plywood manufacture
-Price of timber
-Housing boom
-Increases
-Charges against Georgia-Pacific Co.
-Small firms
-Reasons
-Housing boom
-Timber rights in South
-Solution to problem
-Spin-off company
-Louisiana Pacific
-Problems with expansion
-Plywood production
-Increased prices
-Small producers
-Conflict with Georgia-Pacific Co.
-Monopoly claim
-Oil analogy
-Supplies
-Solution
-FTC cooperativeness
-Alan Waller [?]
Big business
-Work with courts
-Work with independent administrative agencies
-Civil Aeronautics board [CAB], Interstate Commerce Commission [ICC],
FCC
Administration's appointments
-John B. Connally
-Radicals
-14-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Commissions
-Roles
-Judge compared with advocate role
-Compared with a court of law
-Interpretation of existing law
-Supreme Court: Warren E. Burger, Harry A. Blackmun, William H. Rehnquist,
Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Possible replacement for William O. Douglas
-Importance of appointments
-Tenure in office
-Federal Power Commission
-Delays
-Natural gas
-Price
-Production
-Energy crisis
-Difficulty filling appointments
-Salary
-Political aspects of appointment
-Qualifications [?]
-Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
-Director
-Bureaucracy
-Leftists
-Lawyers, accountants
-New Deal
-Attacks on big business
-Administration policies
-Fairness toward business interests
US wood exports to Japan
-West Coast
-As customers
-Integration with Japan’s sawmills
-Lumber
-Imports of timbers
-Housing boom
-Home builder complaints in US
-15-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Japan’s pricing practices
-Lumber compared with logs
-Impact on US jobs
-Impact on housing industry
-Supplies
-Canada
-Wood pulp, chips, logs
-Other exporters
-Need to maintain trade
-Restrictions
-Public compared to private
-Weyhauser Co.
-Impact on foreign exchange
-Chips
-Lumber mill by-product
-Excess
-Creation of pulp
-Japanese as customers
Pamplin's visit to Japan
-Japan’s trade plans
-Joint ventures in US
US-Japan relations
-Importance
Pennsylvania Railroad
-Labor problems
-Need for correction
-Danger of spreading
-Effects on industry
-Competition
-Customers
-Japan [?]
-Efficiency
-Steel strike
-1959 settlement
-Roger Blough, Conrad Cooper, Arthur Goldberg
-16-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Work rules issue
-Union intransigence
Unions
-Wage increases
-Food price increases
-Membership pressure
-Rate of inflation
-Real wages
-Production
Inflation
-Compared with other countries
-Japan
-West Germany
-Great Britain
-Italy
-France
-Japan
-Wage increases
-Decline of real wages
Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Effect of return on the American people
Farmers
-Subsidies
-Competition with People’s Republic of China [PRC], Unions of Soviet
Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Prices
-Increased production
-Decline of dependence on government, self-respect
-Programs
-Cuts
-Congress
President's business philosophy
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-17-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-09)
Conversation No. 870-4 (cont’d)
-Labor leaders
-Support for business
-George Meany, Frank E. Fitzsimmons
Pamplin left at 4:46 pm.