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881–7
- President Richard M. Nixon
- H. R. Haldeman
March 16, 1973
Conversation No. 881-7
Date: March 16, 1973
Time: 12:31 pm - 1:36 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Congressional relations
-Problem
-Meeting with Pete V. Domenici and family
-Children
-School
-Crucifix
President's schedule
-Meetings with people
-Usefulness
-Criteria for scheduling
-Domenici
-Value for President
-Encouragement
-Poster child
Rose Mary Woods
-Duties
-Invitations
-Church services
-Attendance by children
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
Church services
-Value
-Concern for religion
-Invitations
-Refusals
-Cancellations
-White House staff
-Subcabinet
-Vacancies
-Congress members
-Children
-William E. Timmons
-Woods's job
-Children
-Presence
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Invitations
-Cancellation
-Circumstances
-Congress members
-Consultation with Timmons
-Bryce N. Harlow, Clark MacGregor
-Value
Congressional relations
-Meeting with Domenici
-Congressional leaders meetings
-Value
-Ranking members of committees
-Breakfast meeting
Military aide to President
-Work with Major John V. (“Jack”) Brennan
-Conversation with Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
-Responsibilities
-Relationship with Nixon family
-Air Force and Navy officers
-Army officer
-Administrative work for Brennan
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Logistics
-Transportation
-Brennan's duties
-Choice for aide
-Other aides’ duties
-New acquaintance for President
Anne L. Armstrong
-Congressional leadership meetings
-Attendance
-Work with Congress and John D. Ehrlichman
-Role
-Robert H. Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld
President's schedule
-Size of meetings
-Working dinners
Congressional relations
-John McCollister
-Congressman from Nebraska
-MacGregor
-Ehrlichman’s candidate
-White House Congressional liaison
-Background
-SOS, Chowder and Marching Society
-Joint breakfast
-Loyalty to President
-1968 election
-Ehrlichman
-Candidate for congressional liaison
-Clarence J. (\"Bud\") Brown, Jr.
-Timmons
-Status
-White House staff
-Budget strategy
-Ehrlichman, Roy L. Ash, David N. Parker
-Arrangements
-Surrogates
-Forms
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Train reservations
-Pittsburgh
-Speech
-Influence
-Parker, William J, Baroody, Jr., Ziegler's staff
-Need for guidance
-Assignments
-Responsibility
-Ash’s role
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Haldeman’s role
-Need for guidance, clear goals
-Ash
-Budget
-Parker
-Ehrlishman
-Speakers
-Placement in congressional districts
-Bella S. Abzug, Jack F. Kemp
-Influence on Congress members
-Pressure by major contributors
-Walter H. Annenberg, [unintelligible name]
-White House pressure on key people, organizations
-Ohio
-Indiana
-State chair
-Timmons's work
-Democrats
-Re-election
-Kemp, Abzug
-Initiative
-Pressure points
-Targeted list
-Vetoes
-Public pressure
-Initiative
-Personality, attitude
-Leadership qualities
-Comparison with MacGregor
-Timmons
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Demotion
-Domenici
-Democrats
-Conceptual outlook
-Replacement
-Ehrlichman
-Ash
-Staff work
-Regional briefings
-Edward L. Morgan, Baroody
-Editorials
-Value
-Nature of work
-Veterans bill
-Vocational rehabilitation bill
-Delays
-Veto
-Override
-Test vote
-Absentee votes
-Timmons's role in White House
White House staff
-Ash
-Personality
-Realism
-Press relations
-Compared with George P. Shultz
-Shultz
-New Summary
-Responsibilities
-Workload
-Oil
-Monetary policy
-Wage and price controls
-Labor department
-Commerce Department
-Trade bill
-Tax bill
-Need to concentrate
-28-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Trade
-Taxes
-Monetary policy
-Deal with Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Frederic B. Dent
-Kissinger
-Labor-Management relations
-Phase III
-Comparison with John B. Connally
-Energy
-William E. Simon
-Quality of advice
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Use of abilities
-Shultz
-Under-utilization
-Ehrlichman
-Ash
-Management
-Ehrlichman
-Role in White House
-Advocacy
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Views
-Flanigan
-Taxes
-Trade
-Bias
-Compared with Ehrlichman
-Responsibilities
-Talks with businessmen
-Automobile prices
-[First name unknown] Townsend
-Flanigan
-Dent
-Personality
-Judgment
-Flanigan
-Dealings with businessmen
-Time
-29-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Governors
-Cole
-Use of abilities
-Shultz
-Ash
Congressional relations
-McCollister
-Nebraska
-Budget battle
-Focus on House of Representatives
-Congressional leadership abilities
-Joint breakfast
-Organizer of meetings
-SOS
-Chowder and Marching
-Intelligence
-Attitude
-Appearance
-Timmons
-Replacement
-Harlow
-Lobbyist
-Problems
-MacGregor
-Location
-Washington, DC
-Recruitment
-Financial obligations
Press relations
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Abilities
-Quality of work
Congressional relations
-Colson as White House Congressional liaison
-Charges of involvement in Watergate related matters
-Qualities
-Problems
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-John O. (“Jack”) Marsh, Jr.
-Possible recruitment
-Personality
-Costs of elections
-Dwight L. Chapin, Colson
-Abilities
-Budget battle
-Cabinet meeting
-Surrogates program
-Assistant secretaries
-Value
-Rogers
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Cabinet
-James T. Lynn
-Abilities, appearance
-MacGregor
-Need for positive, cheerleader attitude
-Lynn
-Timmons
-Speaking tours
-Value
-Washington, DC
-Rotary Clubs
-Massusa [?]
-Lynn
-Weinberger
-MacGregor
-Judgeship
-Watergate
-Plans for next three years
-Judgeship
-Attorney General
-Supreme Court appointment
-Circuit court
-District of Columbia
-Counselor position in White House
-Legislative advisor to President
-Lawyer title
-Budget matters
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Timmons
-Financial hardships
-Boredom
-George H. W. Bush
-Abilities
-Work with Republican National Committee [RNC]
-Leadership abilities
-Strategy
-Contacts with Congress
-Comparison with Robert J. Dole
-MacGregor
-Abilities
-1974 election
Watergate
-Issuance of report or White Paper
-Need for future conversations with John W. Dean, III
-Richard A. Moore
-Strategy
-Cooperation with Congress
-Questions from press
-Staff testimony
-Dean
-Guidelines, restrictions
-Written questions
-Strategy
-Maximum disclosure
-Advantages, problems
-Watergate burglars
-Containment of testimony
-Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
-Danger of confessions
-G. Gordon Liddy
-Sloan
-Cooperation
-Dissension
-Conflict with Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Dean's concerns
-Knowledge
-Speculations by Sloan
-32-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Liddy
-Danger to administration
-Knowledge of Donald H. Segretti's activities
-Recruitment by Chapin
-Contacts with Herbert W. Kalmbach
-Work with Liddy
-John N. Mitchell
-Links among various activities
-E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Possible statements
-Current position on responsibility for Watergate
-Statement on Magruder
-Implication of Colson, Dean and Mitchell
-Magruder
-Involvement in Watergate
-Colson
-Knowledge of Watergate
-Magruder
-Statement about Haldeman
-Discussion with Dean
-Link in chain
-Emotional state
-Testimony in court, Senate
-John J. Sirica's evaluation
-White Paper
-Advisability
-Dean's opinion
-Need for action
-Haldeman's opinion
Haldeman left at 1:36 pm.
Date: March 16, 1973
Time: 12:31 pm - 1:36 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Congressional relations
-Problem
-Meeting with Pete V. Domenici and family
-Children
-School
-Crucifix
President's schedule
-Meetings with people
-Usefulness
-Criteria for scheduling
-Domenici
-Value for President
-Encouragement
-Poster child
Rose Mary Woods
-Duties
-Invitations
-Church services
-Attendance by children
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
Church services
-Value
-Concern for religion
-Invitations
-Refusals
-Cancellations
-White House staff
-Subcabinet
-Vacancies
-Congress members
-Children
-William E. Timmons
-Woods's job
-Children
-Presence
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Invitations
-Cancellation
-Circumstances
-Congress members
-Consultation with Timmons
-Bryce N. Harlow, Clark MacGregor
-Value
Congressional relations
-Meeting with Domenici
-Congressional leaders meetings
-Value
-Ranking members of committees
-Breakfast meeting
Military aide to President
-Work with Major John V. (“Jack”) Brennan
-Conversation with Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
-Responsibilities
-Relationship with Nixon family
-Air Force and Navy officers
-Army officer
-Administrative work for Brennan
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Logistics
-Transportation
-Brennan's duties
-Choice for aide
-Other aides’ duties
-New acquaintance for President
Anne L. Armstrong
-Congressional leadership meetings
-Attendance
-Work with Congress and John D. Ehrlichman
-Role
-Robert H. Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld
President's schedule
-Size of meetings
-Working dinners
Congressional relations
-John McCollister
-Congressman from Nebraska
-MacGregor
-Ehrlichman’s candidate
-White House Congressional liaison
-Background
-SOS, Chowder and Marching Society
-Joint breakfast
-Loyalty to President
-1968 election
-Ehrlichman
-Candidate for congressional liaison
-Clarence J. (\"Bud\") Brown, Jr.
-Timmons
-Status
-White House staff
-Budget strategy
-Ehrlichman, Roy L. Ash, David N. Parker
-Arrangements
-Surrogates
-Forms
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Train reservations
-Pittsburgh
-Speech
-Influence
-Parker, William J, Baroody, Jr., Ziegler's staff
-Need for guidance
-Assignments
-Responsibility
-Ash’s role
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Haldeman’s role
-Need for guidance, clear goals
-Ash
-Budget
-Parker
-Ehrlishman
-Speakers
-Placement in congressional districts
-Bella S. Abzug, Jack F. Kemp
-Influence on Congress members
-Pressure by major contributors
-Walter H. Annenberg, [unintelligible name]
-White House pressure on key people, organizations
-Ohio
-Indiana
-State chair
-Timmons's work
-Democrats
-Re-election
-Kemp, Abzug
-Initiative
-Pressure points
-Targeted list
-Vetoes
-Public pressure
-Initiative
-Personality, attitude
-Leadership qualities
-Comparison with MacGregor
-Timmons
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Demotion
-Domenici
-Democrats
-Conceptual outlook
-Replacement
-Ehrlichman
-Ash
-Staff work
-Regional briefings
-Edward L. Morgan, Baroody
-Editorials
-Value
-Nature of work
-Veterans bill
-Vocational rehabilitation bill
-Delays
-Veto
-Override
-Test vote
-Absentee votes
-Timmons's role in White House
White House staff
-Ash
-Personality
-Realism
-Press relations
-Compared with George P. Shultz
-Shultz
-New Summary
-Responsibilities
-Workload
-Oil
-Monetary policy
-Wage and price controls
-Labor department
-Commerce Department
-Trade bill
-Tax bill
-Need to concentrate
-28-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Trade
-Taxes
-Monetary policy
-Deal with Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Frederic B. Dent
-Kissinger
-Labor-Management relations
-Phase III
-Comparison with John B. Connally
-Energy
-William E. Simon
-Quality of advice
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Use of abilities
-Shultz
-Under-utilization
-Ehrlichman
-Ash
-Management
-Ehrlichman
-Role in White House
-Advocacy
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Views
-Flanigan
-Taxes
-Trade
-Bias
-Compared with Ehrlichman
-Responsibilities
-Talks with businessmen
-Automobile prices
-[First name unknown] Townsend
-Flanigan
-Dent
-Personality
-Judgment
-Flanigan
-Dealings with businessmen
-Time
-29-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Governors
-Cole
-Use of abilities
-Shultz
-Ash
Congressional relations
-McCollister
-Nebraska
-Budget battle
-Focus on House of Representatives
-Congressional leadership abilities
-Joint breakfast
-Organizer of meetings
-SOS
-Chowder and Marching
-Intelligence
-Attitude
-Appearance
-Timmons
-Replacement
-Harlow
-Lobbyist
-Problems
-MacGregor
-Location
-Washington, DC
-Recruitment
-Financial obligations
Press relations
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Abilities
-Quality of work
Congressional relations
-Colson as White House Congressional liaison
-Charges of involvement in Watergate related matters
-Qualities
-Problems
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-John O. (“Jack”) Marsh, Jr.
-Possible recruitment
-Personality
-Costs of elections
-Dwight L. Chapin, Colson
-Abilities
-Budget battle
-Cabinet meeting
-Surrogates program
-Assistant secretaries
-Value
-Rogers
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Cabinet
-James T. Lynn
-Abilities, appearance
-MacGregor
-Need for positive, cheerleader attitude
-Lynn
-Timmons
-Speaking tours
-Value
-Washington, DC
-Rotary Clubs
-Massusa [?]
-Lynn
-Weinberger
-MacGregor
-Judgeship
-Watergate
-Plans for next three years
-Judgeship
-Attorney General
-Supreme Court appointment
-Circuit court
-District of Columbia
-Counselor position in White House
-Legislative advisor to President
-Lawyer title
-Budget matters
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Timmons
-Financial hardships
-Boredom
-George H. W. Bush
-Abilities
-Work with Republican National Committee [RNC]
-Leadership abilities
-Strategy
-Contacts with Congress
-Comparison with Robert J. Dole
-MacGregor
-Abilities
-1974 election
Watergate
-Issuance of report or White Paper
-Need for future conversations with John W. Dean, III
-Richard A. Moore
-Strategy
-Cooperation with Congress
-Questions from press
-Staff testimony
-Dean
-Guidelines, restrictions
-Written questions
-Strategy
-Maximum disclosure
-Advantages, problems
-Watergate burglars
-Containment of testimony
-Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
-Danger of confessions
-G. Gordon Liddy
-Sloan
-Cooperation
-Dissension
-Conflict with Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Dean's concerns
-Knowledge
-Speculations by Sloan
-32-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. July-2010)
Conversation No. 881-7 (cont’d)
-Liddy
-Danger to administration
-Knowledge of Donald H. Segretti's activities
-Recruitment by Chapin
-Contacts with Herbert W. Kalmbach
-Work with Liddy
-John N. Mitchell
-Links among various activities
-E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Possible statements
-Current position on responsibility for Watergate
-Statement on Magruder
-Implication of Colson, Dean and Mitchell
-Magruder
-Involvement in Watergate
-Colson
-Knowledge of Watergate
-Magruder
-Statement about Haldeman
-Discussion with Dean
-Link in chain
-Emotional state
-Testimony in court, Senate
-John J. Sirica's evaluation
-White Paper
-Advisability
-Dean's opinion
-Need for action
-Haldeman's opinion
Haldeman left at 1:36 pm.