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- President Richard M. Nixon
- George A. Goodling
- Samuel L. Devine
- White House photographer
- Rose Mary Woods
April 10, 1973
Conversation No. 892-16
Date: April 10, 1973
Time: 3:56 pm - 4:42 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Congressmen George A. Goodling and Samuel L. Devine. The White
House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
Vote to sustain veto
Photographs
Vote to sustain veto
-US Senate’s action
-US House’s action
Photographs
-Meeting with Lee Kuan Yew
Vote to sustain veto
-Margin of victory
-Vote count
-Importance
-Effect of President’s speech
-Mail
-Pennsylvania Congressmen
-Joseph M. McDade
-Edward G. Biester, Jr.
-E. G. (“Bud”) Shuster
-President’s speech
-Taxation
-Mail volume
-Constituents’ views
-Rural Electrification and Telephone Service
-48-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Statement
Freshman Congressmen
-President’s advice
-Veto
Devine’s conversation with Preston Wolfe
-Wolfe’s retirement
-Support for President
-1952 and 1956 elections
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Plans
-President’s discussions
-Hugh Scott
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-Goodling’s plans
-Age
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Meeting with Goodling
-Candidates
-Martin G. Hamburger
-Hugh Scott
-Administrative assistant
-Residency
-Liberal
-49-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Conservative
-Goodling’s voting record compared to Devine
-Goodling’s plans
-Retirement
-Compared to Joseph W. Martin, Jr.
-Charles P. Halleck
-Margin of victory
-Devine’s viewpoint
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Political views
-Experience
Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Political experience
-Campaign management
-Speeches
-Charm, humility
Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II’s candidacy
-Hamburger
-Goodling
-Goodling’s office
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Maryland residence
-Hamburger
-Goodling’s 1974 opponent
-Experience
-50-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Committee to Reelect the President [CRP]
Refreshments
Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-Goodling
-Retirement
-Announcement
-1976 election
-Hamburger
-William Goodling
-Superintendant of schools
-Goodling’s retirement
-Effect on primary
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II, William Goodling
-Timing
-Announcement
-1976 election
-Filing date
-Opponents
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II’s plans
-Federal employment
-President’s advice
-Residency
-Candidacy
-Goodling’s retiremenet
-Public appearances
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Goodling
-Goodling’s retirement
-Endorsements
-William Goodling
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Residence
-Public opportunities
-51-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Campaign
-Candidacy
-Experience
-Wallace H. Johnson
-Legal residence
-Dwight D. Eisenhower’s farm
-Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
-Possible apartment
-Gettysburg
-Washington, DC
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Goodling
-Location of farm
-Loganville, Pennsylvania
-District
-Number of towns in Goodling’s Congressional District
-York, Pennsylvania
-Population
-Comparison with President’s old district
-Amherst, California
-Downy, California [?]
-Whittier, California
-Marital status
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Possible Congressional committee employment
-Education and skills
-US Navy
-Communication Committee, Transportation Committee
-52-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Education and skills
-Law
-Naval service
-Amherst College
-Armed Services Committee
-Intelligence
-Agricultural Committee, Commerce Committee, Transportation
Committee, Communication Committee, Health Committee
-Naval experience
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Robert F. Kennedy
-Nepotism law
-Dwight D. Eisenhower and son
-Possible future employment
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-CIA
-Robert H. Michel
-Speaking ability
-Colleges and universities
-Campaign committee
-Need for speakers
-Colleges in Goodling’s district
-Meeting with Devine
-Goodling’s meeting with President
-Forthcoming meeting with Devine
Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-1976 election
-Goodling’s retirement
-Meeting with President
-Photograph
-Endorsements
-Devine’s meeting with [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
-53-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
FBI
-Devine’s interest in Directorship
-Depoliticization
-Top officials
-Rivalry
-Legacy of J. Edgar Hoover
-Clyde A. Tolson
-Possible candidates for Director
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Devine
-Statement
-Future service in Congress
-Background as a lawyer
-Criticism of John F. Kennedy [?], George S. McGovern
-Confirmation
-Compared to L[ouis] Patrick Gray
Congressional leadership
-Leslie C. Arends’s age
-Goodling’s age
-George D. Aiken
Arends
-Golf
Gifts for secretaries
Rose Mary Woods
-Goodling’s acquaintance
-Harry McLaughlin
-Nellie L. Yates
-President’s private secretary
-Duties
-Staff
-54-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Meeting with Devine
-Meeting with Clifford J. Jones
-Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
Rose Mary Woods entered at 4:36 pm.
Introduction
-McLaughlin
-Mutual friend of Woods and Goodling
-Work with Woods
Gifts
-Goodling’s office, Devine’s office
-Description
-Cufflinks
-Paperweight
-Cufflinks
-New design
Woods left at an unknown time after 4:36 pm.
Gifts
-Wife of Devine
-Tie clasp
Woods entered at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.
Gifts
-55-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Tie clasp
Envelope
Gifts
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Newly designed cufflinks
-Richardson
The White House photographer entered at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.
Transportation
Photographs
-Instructions
Woods
-McLaughlin
-President’s regards
-Photograph appointment for Oval Office
President’s schedule
-Party
-Meeting with [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
Vote sustaining veto
-Letter from President
-Members of Congress
-Letter for Goodling
-Goodling’s transportation
-Devine’s retrieval of Goodling’s car
Goodling, Devine, Woods, and the White House photographer left at 4:42 pm.
-56-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-17 (cont’d)
Date: April 10, 1973
Time: 3:56 pm - 4:42 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Congressmen George A. Goodling and Samuel L. Devine. The White
House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
Vote to sustain veto
Photographs
Vote to sustain veto
-US Senate’s action
-US House’s action
Photographs
-Meeting with Lee Kuan Yew
Vote to sustain veto
-Margin of victory
-Vote count
-Importance
-Effect of President’s speech
-Pennsylvania Congressmen
-Joseph M. McDade
-Edward G. Biester, Jr.
-E. G. (“Bud”) Shuster
-President’s speech
-Taxation
-Mail volume
-Constituents’ views
-Rural Electrification and Telephone Service
-48-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Statement
Freshman Congressmen
-President’s advice
-Veto
Devine’s conversation with Preston Wolfe
-Wolfe’s retirement
-Support for President
-1952 and 1956 elections
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Plans
-President’s discussions
-Hugh Scott
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-Goodling’s plans
-Age
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Meeting with Goodling
-Candidates
-Martin G. Hamburger
-Hugh Scott
-Administrative assistant
-Residency
-Liberal
-49-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Conservative
-Goodling’s voting record compared to Devine
-Goodling’s plans
-Retirement
-Compared to Joseph W. Martin, Jr.
-Charles P. Halleck
-Margin of victory
-Devine’s viewpoint
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Political views
-Experience
Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Political experience
-Campaign management
-Speeches
-Charm, humility
Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II’s candidacy
-Hamburger
-Goodling
-Goodling’s office
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Maryland residence
-Hamburger
-Goodling’s 1974 opponent
-Experience
-50-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Committee to Reelect the President [CRP]
Refreshments
Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-Goodling
-Retirement
-Announcement
-1976 election
-Hamburger
-William Goodling
-Superintendant of schools
-Goodling’s retirement
-Effect on primary
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II, William Goodling
-Timing
-Announcement
-1976 election
-Filing date
-Opponents
-1976 election
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II’s plans
-Federal employment
-President’s advice
-Residency
-Candidacy
-Goodling’s retiremenet
-Public appearances
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Goodling
-Goodling’s retirement
-Endorsements
-William Goodling
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Residence
-Public opportunities
-51-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Campaign
-Candidacy
-Experience
-Wallace H. Johnson
-Legal residence
-Dwight D. Eisenhower’s farm
-Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
-Possible apartment
-Gettysburg
-Washington, DC
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
Goodling
-Location of farm
-Loganville, Pennsylvania
-District
-Number of towns in Goodling’s Congressional District
-York, Pennsylvania
-Population
-Comparison with President’s old district
-Amherst, California
-Downy, California [?]
-Whittier, California
-Marital status
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Possible Congressional committee employment
-Education and skills
-US Navy
-Communication Committee, Transportation Committee
-52-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Education and skills
-Law
-Naval service
-Amherst College
-Armed Services Committee
-Intelligence
-Agricultural Committee, Commerce Committee, Transportation
Committee, Communication Committee, Health Committee
-Naval experience
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Robert F. Kennedy
-Nepotism law
-Dwight D. Eisenhower and son
-Possible future employment
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-CIA
-Robert H. Michel
-Speaking ability
-Colleges and universities
-Campaign committee
-Need for speakers
-Colleges in Goodling’s district
-Meeting with Devine
-Goodling’s meeting with President
-Forthcoming meeting with Devine
Pennsylvania Congressional District 19
-1976 election
-Goodling’s retirement
-Meeting with President
-Photograph
-Endorsements
-Devine’s meeting with [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
-53-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
FBI
-Devine’s interest in Directorship
-Depoliticization
-Top officials
-Rivalry
-Legacy of J. Edgar Hoover
-Clyde A. Tolson
-Possible candidates for Director
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Devine
-Statement
-Future service in Congress
-Background as a lawyer
-Criticism of John F. Kennedy [?], George S. McGovern
-Confirmation
-Compared to L[ouis] Patrick Gray
Congressional leadership
-Leslie C. Arends’s age
-Goodling’s age
-George D. Aiken
Arends
-Golf
Gifts for secretaries
Rose Mary Woods
-Goodling’s acquaintance
-Harry McLaughlin
-Nellie L. Yates
-President’s private secretary
-Duties
-Staff
-54-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Meeting with Devine
-Meeting with Clifford J. Jones
-Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
Rose Mary Woods entered at 4:36 pm.
Introduction
-McLaughlin
-Mutual friend of Woods and Goodling
-Work with Woods
Gifts
-Goodling’s office, Devine’s office
-Description
-Cufflinks
-Paperweight
-Cufflinks
-New design
Woods left at an unknown time after 4:36 pm.
Gifts
-Wife of Devine
-Tie clasp
Woods entered at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.
Gifts
-55-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-16 (cont’d)
-Tie clasp
Envelope
Gifts
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Newly designed cufflinks
-Richardson
The White House photographer entered at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.
Transportation
Photographs
-Instructions
Woods
-McLaughlin
-President’s regards
-Photograph appointment for Oval Office
President’s schedule
-Party
-Meeting with [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
Vote sustaining veto
-Letter from President
-Members of Congress
-Letter for Goodling
-Goodling’s transportation
-Devine’s retrieval of Goodling’s car
Goodling, Devine, Woods, and the White House photographer left at 4:42 pm.
-56-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. September-2012)
Conversation No. 892-17 (cont’d)