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893–10
- President Richard M. Nixon
- John D. Ehrlichman
- Stephen B. Bull
- UNKNOWN
April 11, 1973
Conversation No. 893-10
Date: April 11, 1973
Time: 11:05 am - 11:50 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Pending legislation, teenage wage differential
-George Meany
-Peter J. Brennan
-Support for legislation
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Brennan
-Deal making
-Chances with Congress
-Teenage wage differential
-Frederick B. Dent
-Criticism of Brennan
-John N. Erlenborn
-Public statement
-Administration proposals
-Meany
-President’s advice to Brennan
Watergate
-John N., Mitchell’s call to Ehrlichman
-Settlement of suit
-Robert S. Strauss
-Approval by Mike Mansfield, Carl B. Albert, and Sam J. Ervin, Jr.
-Conversation with Maurice H. Stans
-Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr.
-Settlement
-Settlement of suit
-Stans’s position
-Leonard Garment
-Meeting with Ervin Committee staff, April 10, 1973
-Ervin Committee
-Hearing schedule
-John J. Sirica’s delay in sentencing James W. McCord, Jr.
-20-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Compared to Whittaker Chambers case
-Alger Hiss’s response
-Ervin Committee
-Slander of defendants
-Garment’s role
-Leaks
-New York Daily News
-McCord’s testimony corroborated
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Ehrlichman’s meeting with Ervin
-Chambers case
-Hiss
-Function
-Garment’s opinion of committee staff
-Plans
-Donald H. Segretti
-Campaign finance
-Fred D. Thompson
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Samuel Dash
-Effect of McCord’s testimony
-Mitchell
-Frederick C. LaRue
-News story
-Funds
-Source
-W. Clement Stone [?]
-Gordon C. Strachan
-Reporting of expenditure
-Return to Stans
-La Rue
-John W. Dean, III
-Source of Ehrlichman’s information
-Knowledge of funds transactions
-Richard A. Moore’s conversation with Garment and Ehrlichman, April 11,
1973
-Focus on funds problem
-Mitchell’s attention
-21-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Moore’s conversations
-Dean
-Mitchell
-Possibility of conversation with President
-Previous conversation with President
Supreme Court
-Byron R. White
-Interest in directorship of Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Life on the court
-Prestige
-Background
-Religion
-Marital status
-Political views
-Conservative
-Law and order
-Race
-Pace of decisions
-Replacement
-Discussions
-Messages from Potter Stewart and Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Work of Jewell S. LaFontant
-Quality
-Richard G. Kleindienst’s assessment
-Blacks
-White
-Kleindienst
-Warren E. Burger
-Meeting about FBI position
-Ehrlichman meeting
-Marvin Watson
-Background
-Lawyer
-Postmaster General
-Lyndon B. Johnson Administration
-Democrat
-Comparison with Abe Fortas
-Press reaction
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Credibility
Watergate
-Ervin Committee
-Schedule
-Ehrlichman’s talk with Ervin
-Executive privilege
-Kleindienst’s attack on Edmund S. Muskie
-Ervin’s opinion of President’s position
-Aims of White House
-Ervin Committee
-Strachan, Dwight L. Chapin, Segretti
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
-Ehrlichman’s warning to Baker and Ervin
-Records of 1970 Congressional money
-Pre-1970 Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy investigation
-Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
-Alabama money
-Scope of subpoena
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Kalmbach’s attorney
-Scope of investigation
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Ervin
-Kalmbach
-Subpoena
-Funds
-Movement of money for Stans
-Haldeman’s use
-Polling
-Administration’s explanation
Economic policy
-Herbert Stein
-Troika of economic advisors and Roy L. Ash to prepare written recommendations
-Arthur F. Burns
-Ehrlichman’s call
-Meeting with President
-Decision making process
-Pierre Rinfret
-Paper
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Stein’s list of options
-Congress
-Mail from constituents
-Opposition to proposals
-Business community
-William J. Baroody’s office
-Effectiveness
-Control of inflation
-Stein’s view on control
-Equilibrium
-Economy’s momentum
-Stock market
-Rise in prices
-Distortions
-Jewish influence
-Rinfret
-Retail sales figures
Inflation
-Public reasoning
-Lack of confidence
-Cambodia
-Fiscal policy [?]
-Federal spending
-President’s vetoes
-Influence on Congress
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:05 am.
President’s schedule
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Talking paper
-Meeting with Gregorio Lopez-Bravo de Castro
-Length of meeting
-Meetings with foreign ministers
-Meeting with Lopez-Bravo
-Duration
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:50 am.
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
President’s schedule
-Meeting with Lopez-Bravo
-Length
-Content of paper delivered to President
Watergate
-Mitchell and LaRue
-Forthcoming testimony to Grand Jury
-Nature of possible crimes committed
-Perjury
-Washington Post’s allegations of funds for cover-up
-Legal importance of intent
-Committee to Re-Elect the President [CRP]
-Segretti
-Plea of self-incrimination
-Meeting of attorney with Kalmbach’s attorney
-Connection with E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Strachan
-Chapin
-Campaign organization
-Watergate break-in
-Management
-Magruder
-Mitchell
-G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Privacy]
[Duration: 33 s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
*****************************************************************
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
Watergate
-Sally Harmony’s testimony before grand jury
-Mitchell and Magruder
-Haldeman
-Dean’s story concerning reports
-Submission of report to Strachan
FBI
-Possible involvement of Haldeman
-Haldeman’s response
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:05 am.
President’s schedule
-A meeting
-Time
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:50 am.
Watergate
-Liddy
-Sally Harmony’s possible testimony
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Privacy]
[Duration: 13 s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
*****************************************************************
Watergate
-Liddy
-Sally Harmony’s possible testimony
-Source of information for Ehrlichman
-Richard A. Moore
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Memos to and from Liddy
-Charles W. Colson
-Haldeman
-Ehrlichman conversation with Dean
-Haldeman
-Defense by White House
-Forthcoming testimony
-Comparison with Mitchell’s testimony
-Possible future reactions by Republicans
-Weicker
-Hugh Scott, Barry M. Goldwater, Gerald R. Ford
-Comparison with Sherman Adams case
-Possible White House reaction
-Garment’s reaction to investigation
-Interest of President’s opponents
-Response by President
-Gannon’s suggestions for President’s activities
-Travel
-President’s forthcoming meeting with Lopez-Bravo
-Ehrlichman’s assessment
-President’s meeting with Lee Kuan Yew
-Ehrlichman’s assessment
-Effect on President’s opponents
-Weicker
-Vetoes
-Effect on public pereption
-Role of Congress
-Baseball game attendance
Watergate
-Responsibility for counterattack
-Colson
-Garment
-Baker
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Strategy
-Stories in press
-Ervin Committee
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
Ehrlichman left at 11:50 am.
Date: April 11, 1973
Time: 11:05 am - 11:50 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Pending legislation, teenage wage differential
-George Meany
-Peter J. Brennan
-Support for legislation
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Brennan
-Deal making
-Chances with Congress
-Teenage wage differential
-Frederick B. Dent
-Criticism of Brennan
-John N. Erlenborn
-Public statement
-Administration proposals
-Meany
-President’s advice to Brennan
Watergate
-John N., Mitchell’s call to Ehrlichman
-Settlement of suit
-Robert S. Strauss
-Approval by Mike Mansfield, Carl B. Albert, and Sam J. Ervin, Jr.
-Conversation with Maurice H. Stans
-Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr.
-Settlement
-Settlement of suit
-Stans’s position
-Leonard Garment
-Meeting with Ervin Committee staff, April 10, 1973
-Ervin Committee
-Hearing schedule
-John J. Sirica’s delay in sentencing James W. McCord, Jr.
-20-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Compared to Whittaker Chambers case
-Alger Hiss’s response
-Ervin Committee
-Slander of defendants
-Garment’s role
-Leaks
-New York Daily News
-McCord’s testimony corroborated
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Ehrlichman’s meeting with Ervin
-Chambers case
-Hiss
-Function
-Garment’s opinion of committee staff
-Plans
-Donald H. Segretti
-Campaign finance
-Fred D. Thompson
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Samuel Dash
-Effect of McCord’s testimony
-Mitchell
-Frederick C. LaRue
-News story
-Funds
-Source
-W. Clement Stone [?]
-Gordon C. Strachan
-Reporting of expenditure
-Return to Stans
-La Rue
-John W. Dean, III
-Source of Ehrlichman’s information
-Knowledge of funds transactions
-Richard A. Moore’s conversation with Garment and Ehrlichman, April 11,
1973
-Focus on funds problem
-Mitchell’s attention
-21-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Moore’s conversations
-Dean
-Mitchell
-Possibility of conversation with President
-Previous conversation with President
Supreme Court
-Byron R. White
-Interest in directorship of Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Life on the court
-Prestige
-Background
-Religion
-Marital status
-Political views
-Conservative
-Law and order
-Race
-Pace of decisions
-Replacement
-Discussions
-Messages from Potter Stewart and Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Work of Jewell S. LaFontant
-Quality
-Richard G. Kleindienst’s assessment
-Blacks
-White
-Kleindienst
-Warren E. Burger
-Meeting about FBI position
-Ehrlichman meeting
-Marvin Watson
-Background
-Lawyer
-Postmaster General
-Lyndon B. Johnson Administration
-Democrat
-Comparison with Abe Fortas
-Press reaction
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Credibility
Watergate
-Ervin Committee
-Schedule
-Ehrlichman’s talk with Ervin
-Executive privilege
-Kleindienst’s attack on Edmund S. Muskie
-Ervin’s opinion of President’s position
-Aims of White House
-Ervin Committee
-Strachan, Dwight L. Chapin, Segretti
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
-Ehrlichman’s warning to Baker and Ervin
-Records of 1970 Congressional money
-Pre-1970 Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy investigation
-Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
-Alabama money
-Scope of subpoena
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Kalmbach’s attorney
-Scope of investigation
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Ervin
-Kalmbach
-Subpoena
-Funds
-Movement of money for Stans
-Haldeman’s use
-Polling
-Administration’s explanation
Economic policy
-Herbert Stein
-Troika of economic advisors and Roy L. Ash to prepare written recommendations
-Arthur F. Burns
-Ehrlichman’s call
-Meeting with President
-Decision making process
-Pierre Rinfret
-Paper
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Stein’s list of options
-Congress
-Mail from constituents
-Opposition to proposals
-Business community
-William J. Baroody’s office
-Effectiveness
-Control of inflation
-Stein’s view on control
-Equilibrium
-Economy’s momentum
-Stock market
-Rise in prices
-Distortions
-Jewish influence
-Rinfret
-Retail sales figures
Inflation
-Public reasoning
-Lack of confidence
-Cambodia
-Fiscal policy [?]
-Federal spending
-President’s vetoes
-Influence on Congress
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:05 am.
President’s schedule
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Talking paper
-Meeting with Gregorio Lopez-Bravo de Castro
-Length of meeting
-Meetings with foreign ministers
-Meeting with Lopez-Bravo
-Duration
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:50 am.
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
President’s schedule
-Meeting with Lopez-Bravo
-Length
-Content of paper delivered to President
Watergate
-Mitchell and LaRue
-Forthcoming testimony to Grand Jury
-Nature of possible crimes committed
-Perjury
-Washington Post’s allegations of funds for cover-up
-Legal importance of intent
-Committee to Re-Elect the President [CRP]
-Segretti
-Plea of self-incrimination
-Meeting of attorney with Kalmbach’s attorney
-Connection with E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Strachan
-Chapin
-Campaign organization
-Watergate break-in
-Management
-Magruder
-Mitchell
-G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Privacy]
[Duration: 33 s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
*****************************************************************
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
Watergate
-Sally Harmony’s testimony before grand jury
-Mitchell and Magruder
-Haldeman
-Dean’s story concerning reports
-Submission of report to Strachan
FBI
-Possible involvement of Haldeman
-Haldeman’s response
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:05 am.
President’s schedule
-A meeting
-Time
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:50 am.
Watergate
-Liddy
-Sally Harmony’s possible testimony
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Privacy]
[Duration: 13 s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
*****************************************************************
Watergate
-Liddy
-Sally Harmony’s possible testimony
-Source of information for Ehrlichman
-Richard A. Moore
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
-Memos to and from Liddy
-Charles W. Colson
-Haldeman
-Ehrlichman conversation with Dean
-Haldeman
-Defense by White House
-Forthcoming testimony
-Comparison with Mitchell’s testimony
-Possible future reactions by Republicans
-Weicker
-Hugh Scott, Barry M. Goldwater, Gerald R. Ford
-Comparison with Sherman Adams case
-Possible White House reaction
-Garment’s reaction to investigation
-Interest of President’s opponents
-Response by President
-Gannon’s suggestions for President’s activities
-Travel
-President’s forthcoming meeting with Lopez-Bravo
-Ehrlichman’s assessment
-President’s meeting with Lee Kuan Yew
-Ehrlichman’s assessment
-Effect on President’s opponents
-Weicker
-Vetoes
-Effect on public pereption
-Role of Congress
-Baseball game attendance
Watergate
-Responsibility for counterattack
-Colson
-Garment
-Baker
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Strategy
-Stories in press
-Ervin Committee
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. February-2011)
Conversation No. 893-10 (cont’d)
Ehrlichman left at 11:50 am.