Secret White House Tapes

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325–10
  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • H. R. Haldeman
  • John D. Ehrlichman
  • Ronald L. Ziegler
  • UNKNOWN
  • Rose Mary Woods
  • White House operator
  • William L. Safire
March 23, 1972
Conversation No. 325-10
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-8 (cont.)


Date: March 23, 1972
Time: 10:19 am - 12:45 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. Haldeman.

Possible pipeline project
-Rogers C.B. Morton
-Edmonton
-Seattle
-Chicago
-Tankers
-Possible consortium
-Canada
-U.S. Government
-Private companies
-Disposition of pipeline
-Wilson Basin
Busing
-Congress
-Staff meeting
-Emmanuel Celler
-Albert H. Quie
-Jacob K. Javits
-Edward L. Morgan
-Clark MacGregor
-House Judiciary Committee
-Celler
-William M. McCulloch
-Legislation
-Congressional support
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Celler
-Editorial work
-South
-West
-Border states
-Kentucky
-Tennessee
-Michigan
-Ohio
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Intervention
-Meetings
-Morgan, Richard G. Kleindienst and Justice Department personnel
-New stories
-Frequency
-Michigan
-Tennessee
-Cabinet
-Information packets
-Questions and answers
-The President’s statement
-Fact sheet
-The President’s Instructions
-Briefing outline of the administration’s position
-Short speeches
-Appearances on talk show
-Fact sheet
-Congress
-News summary
-Editorial comments
-The President’s view
-Haldeman’s view
-The President’s view
-Herbert G. Klein
-Los Angeles Times
-Des Moines Free Register
-Detroit Free Press
-Miami Herald
-Editorial writers
-Ehrlichman’s view
-The President’s view
News summaries
-George C. Wallace
-The President’s moral leadership
-Detroit Free Press
-Los Angeles Times
-The President’s view
-Race relations
-Blacks
-The President’s moral leadership
-Press conference
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-News coverage
-Extremists
-The President’s view
-Politics
-Negroes
-Money
-Unknown person
-Letter to the President
-Strom Thurmond
-Robert P. Griffin
-Constitutional issue
-Robert H. Bork’s forthcoming article
-American Enterprise Institute [AEI]
-Justice Department
-Congress
-Bork’s article
-The President’s view
-Congress
-Newspapers
-The President’s schedule
-Supreme Court dinner
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Earl Warren
-The President’s view
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Symbolism
-Relationship of executive branch with the Supreme Court
-Possible toast
-Fred Graham
-The President’s view
-Possible article
-American Bar Association [ABA] Journal
-Harvard Law Review, Duke Law Review
-Effectiveness of dinner
-The President’s view
-California
-Stanford Law School
-Dinner
-William H. Rehnquist
-The President’s possible attendance
-Effectiveness of dinners compared to articles
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-US News and World Report
-Radio statements
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Executive branch compared to the courts
-Radio statements
-War powers
-Congress
-Courts
-“Law of the Land”
-Constitution
-Editorial writers
-Supreme Court
-Congress
-Possible statement
-Price
-Leonard Garment
-[First Name Unknown] McClellan [sp?] and [First Name Unknown] Stone [?]
-Richard M. Helms

The President’s schedule
-State Department
-Meeting
-Time
-Press conference

Social functions
-Dinners
-Supreme Court
-Warren E. Burger
-The President’s view
-Wives
-Labor leaders
-Social leaders
-Breakfasts
-Cocktail parties
-Evenings at the White House
-Church services
-Tours
-Second floor
-Rose Garden
-Oval Office
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Press
-Betty Beale
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Readership
-Haldeman’s view
-Toasts
-Notes
-State dinners
-East Wing
-Ronald L. Ziegler

Busing
-The President’s forthcoming radio address
-Advantages
-US News and World Report
-New York Times

Dinners
-Burger
-Gridiron

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 10:45 am.

Forthcoming press announcement
-Ziegler
-Gerald L. Warren
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Meeting
-John B. Connally
-George P. Schultz
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Herbert Stein
-Time
-Announcement
-Pay Board
-Connally
-Pay Board composition announcement
-The President’s possible press conference
-Shultz
-Connally
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Morning television appearance
-Ziegler
-Timing
-Haldeman’s view
-The President’s possible announcement
-Statement
-Issues
-Drugs
-Marijuana
-Abortion
-Liberals on staff
-News summaries
-Pay Board
-Ziegler’s role
-Cameras
-The President’s statement

Ziegler left at 10:55 am

Press conferences
-Press reaction
-The President’s view
-Marijuana story
-Administration view
-Opposing views
-Penalties

Social events
-Press
-Beale
-Haldeman’s view
-Christina Ford
-Dress
-John G. Gorton
-Wife’s dress
-Performers
-Kirsten
-Garment’s view
-The President’s view
-Dorothy Kirsten
-Beverly Sills
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-The President’s view
-Religion
-Compared to Kirsten

The President’s advisors
-Shultz
-Connally
-White House staff compared to Cabinet officers
-Connally
-Economic advisor
-Haldeman’s view
-Relationship with Shultz
-Recent meeting
-Location
-Ehrlichman’s view
-The President’s view
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Shultz’s concern
-Connally’s staff
-Shultz’s relationship with Connally
-Connally compared to Shultz
-Shultz
-Labor
-Shultz’s opinion of wage and price controls
-George Meany
-Economics
-American public opinion
-Controls
-The President’s view
-Arthur F. Burns
-Burns
-Possible meeting with the President
-Burns’ schedule
-Switzerland
-Connally
-Hawaii
-Connally’s view
-Shultz’s view
-Nathaniel Samuels previous comments
-Connally
-State Department
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Religion
-Connally
-Shultz’s view
-Herbert Stein
-Hobart Rowen
-Relationship with Connally
-White House personnel
-Burns
-Federal Reserve
-Stein
-Chief economic advisor
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Chief foreign policy advisor
-William L. Safire
-Garment
-Possible replacement for position
-Ralph J. Bunch
-F. Bradford Morse
-Jerome H. Holland
-Press story
-State Department
-William P. Rogers
-Holland
-Sweden
-Morse
-Rogers
-Blacks
-Andrew F. Brimmer
-Economic advisors
-Samuels article
-Burns
-Forthcoming meeting with John D. Ehrlichman
-Possible meeting with the President
-Haldeman
-Burn’s possible meeting with Connally
-White House church service [?]

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 11:21
am.

[Conversation No. 325-10A]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)



Rose Mary Woods

[End of telephone conversation]

Foreign relations
-Pipeline
-Possible meeting between the President and Morton
-Canadians
-Relocation
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Forthcoming meeting with the Canadians
-US-Canada Consortium
-Courts
-Alaskan pipeline
-Law suits
-Environmentalists
-Possible settlement
-Forthcoming meeting between the President and Morton
-Peter M. Flanigan and John C. Whitaker
-Haig
-Dillon-Reed
-Ehrlichman’s view
-John N. Mitchell

International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
-Flanigan
-Ziegler
-Possible statement
-Previous press conference
-Ehrlichman’s advice
-Content
-C. Arnholt Smith
-Relationship with the President
-Ziegler
-Justice Department
-James O. Eastland
-Case
-Release of information
-Justice Department
-Dita D. Beard
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Hearings
-John V. Tunney
-Committee
-Justice Department paper
-Beard

Drugs
-Report on Marijuana
-Ziegler
-Press

Administration personnel
-Samuels article
-Rogers
-Haldeman’s previous conversation with Rogers
-Connally’s reaction
-Burns
-Relations with the administration
-The President’s view
--1972 election
-Appointments to the Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
-Frederic V. Malek
-Possible appointee from Seattle
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Understanding administration goals in selection
-Haldeman’s view
-Burns
-Connally
-The President’s power to appoint
-Veto power of others in the administration
-Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
-Chairman, FRB
-Burger
-Potential appointee from Seattle’s meeting with Ehrlichman
-Potential appointee’s meeting with Burns
-Ehrlichman’s meeting with Malek’s assistant
-Criteria for selection
-Burns’ approval
-The President’s view
-The President’s approval
-Connally’s approval
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Burns
-Instructions from the President
-Haldeman’s view
-The President’s view
-Burns
-Ehrlichman’s view
-The President’s view
-Connally
-Stein
-Press

Woods entered at 11:21 am.

The President’s schedule
-Burns
-Dinner
-Invitations
-State dinner for Nihat Erim
-State dinner for Hussein ibn Talal

Woods left at 11:25 am.

Burns
-The President’s view
-Kissinger

Busing
-Constitutional amendment
-Public opinion
-Polarization
-White House strategy
-The President’s position
-Public opinion
-American Civil War period
-Abraham Lincoln
-Abolition
-Preservation of the Union
-Race relations
-Rogers
-Relationship with eastern liberals
-Statement to the President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Births in Washington, DC
-Washington, DC
-Parents and or guardians
-Children
-Relationship to parents or guardians
-Ages of girls
-Pregnancy
-Family structure
-Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report
-The President’s view
-Equal educational opportunity
-National Broadcasting Company [NBC] series
-Carl D. Perkins
-Splitting of opposition
-Separate but equal
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Transportation issue
-Moratorium
-Desegregation
-Elimination of dual school system
-Southerners support
-Desegregation
-Liberal position
-Transportation
-Statutes
-Supreme Court ruling
-Swann vs. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Board of Education case
-Congress
-Remedy of last resort
-Elementary school children
-Racial balance
-Previous press conference
-Morgan
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Study
-Results
-Burger
-Memorandum
-Opinion on other cases
-Swann case
-Liberals
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-James E. Cheek

News story
-Previous Pay Board Meeting
-Statement
-Labor leaders
-Content
-Cyrus S. Ching
-Clark Kerr
-February 16, 1951
-Meany

The President’s view
-Busing
-Pay Board
-ITT

Ehrlichman left at 11:35 am.

Pay Board statement
-Safire
-Inflation
-Safire
-Connally and Shultz
-Length of statement
-Meany
-Executive committee meeting
-Time
-Meany

The President’s forthcoming meeting with Marshall Green
-The People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip
-Haig
-Marshall Green
-Kissinger
-Haig
-Green’s previous trip to Asia
-Asian nation’s support of PRC trip
-Kissinger
-Taiwan, Republic of China
-Haig
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Meet the Press

The President’s instructions for Charles W. Colson
-Congress
-Failure to pass administration’s legislation
-Drinking abroad
-[First name unintelligible] Edwards
-Arthur K. Watson
-State Department
-List
-Donald L. Jackson

The President’s schedule
-Dinner for retiring Congressmen
-William M. Colmer
-H. Allen Smith
-John W. Byrnes
-Clark MacGregor
-John Sherman Cooper
-Senators and congressmen
-MacGregor
-White House staff
-Cabinet officials
-Timing
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Congressional leadership
-Wives
-Guests
-Number
-The President’s view
-Wives
-MacGregor
-Cooper
-Smith
-Byrnes
-Chowder and Marching Club
-Congressmen
-Wives
-Republicans
-Democrats
-Mrs. Byrnes
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Mrs. Cooper
-Importance

Pay Board statement
-Safire
-Meany
-Percentage in wage increase for longshoremen
-Submission of a paragraph

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 11:35 am and
12:10 pm.

[Conversation No. 325-10B]

[See Conversation No. 22-2]

[End of telephone conversation]

Pay Board statement
-Length
-Removal of a section

Haldeman talked with Safire at an unknown time between 11:35 am and 12:10 pm.

[Conversation No. 325-10C]

[See Conversation No. 22-2]

[End of telephone conversation]

Pay Board statement
-Safire
-Removal of a section
-Networks

Dinners
-Donald McI. Kendall
-Press
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Beale
-Haldeman’s view
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-“Dear Abby”
-Beale
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
-Gossip
-Toasts
-Press
-West Wing news people
-Reporters
-ITT
-Toasts
-Reaction
-The President’s PRC trip
Television
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Households reached
-Chou En Lai’s toasts
-Ratings
-The President’s toasts
-Ratings
-Timing of toasts
-Morning shows


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Cabinet officers
-Connally-Shultz situation
-Ehrlichman
-Meetings between the White House and Cabinet officers
-Connally
-Shultz
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-John A. Scali
-Possible meeting with MacGregor
-Republican Congressional group
-Sub-cabinet
-Wives
-PRC trip
-Scali’s previous speech on PRC trip
-Talking points from speech
-Congressmen and senators

Kissinger
-Administration’s dependence
-The President’s view
-Backgrounders
-Kissinger’s forthcoming trip
-Chicago
-Other trips
-CBS
-The President’s appearance
-Timing
-The PRC trip
-Special
-Purpose
-Haldeman’s view
-Administration’s purpose compared with CBS purpose
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Chicago
-The President’s memorandum
-Irv Kupcinet
-Los Angeles
-News Makers

The PRC trip
-West Wing
-Story
-Museums
-Traveling displays
-Photographs
-Gifts
-Jacksonville Historical Society, Florida
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-New York
-Los Angeles
-Chicago
-White House staff
-Timing
-The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Tourist season
-Los Angeles
-San Francisco
-Chicago
-Cleveland
-Houston
-Dallas
-Ft. Worth
-New York City
-Philadelphia
-Panda
-Health concerns
-Public interest
-Scali
-The President’s appreciation
-White House staff
-Role
-Scali
-Kissinger
-Taiwan
-Shanghai Communiqué
-Haldeman’s movies
-Scali
-White House staff
-Networks
-Navy film
-Haldeman’s material compared to Navy films
-Networks
-Documentary crew
-Proposed Sub-cabinet meeting
-State Department
-White House theater
-Briefing room
-Executive Office Building [EOB]
-Tour of the White House display
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-Wives
-Scali
-Kissinger compared to Scali
-Presentation
-Trip background
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Television

Presidential approval polls
-Effect of the PRC trip
-South compared to the rest of the country
-Percentages

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 12:10 pm.

Messages

Butterfield left at 12:12 pm.

Congressional retirees
-Dinners
-MacGregor
-Invitation to wives
-Necessity
-Mrs. Colmer
-MacGregor
-Army chorus

Presidential approval polls
-South
-Percentages
-East
-Percentages
-Midwest percentages
-East
-South
-West
-Drop in percentage
-Changes in percentages for the regions
-Busing issue
-South
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-West
-Constitutional amendment
-Midwest, East
-The President’s televised speech, March 16, 1972
-Regions of the US
-South
-East
-Midwest
-South
-West
-Paper poll
-East
-Midwest
-South
-West
-Unfavorable rating
-South
-Busing
-West
-ITT
-South
-Los Angeles
-West compared to south
-Los Angeles
-San Diego
-Trial heats
-PRC trip
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


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An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 12:12 pm and 12:45 pm.

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Pay Board statement
-Safire
-New paragraph
-Content
-Reading
-Telephone call from Haldeman
-Wage earners
-Percentage in American Federation of Labor Congress of Industrial
Organizations [AFL-CIO]

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:12 pm and
12:45 pm.

[Conversation No. 325-10D]

[See Conversation No. 22-3]

Haldeman talked with Safire at an unknown time between 12:12 pm and 12:45 pm.

[Conversation No. 325-10E]

[See Conversation No. 22-3]

[End of telephone conversation]
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


Pay Board statement
-Phrasing
-Meany

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 12:12 pm and 12:45 pm.

The President’s schedule

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1972 campaign
-Strategy
-Investigation of Democrats

ITT case
-Beard
-Questioning
-Sessions
-Length
-Health
-Alger Hiss case
-Media
-New York Times editorial
-Ziegler
-Charles W. Colson’s information
-Washington Post
-Charges
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


News stories
-Stein
-Pay Board

Foreign policy
-Public relations
-Scali
-Kissinger
-The President’s view
-Rogers
-Kissinger
-Los Angeles
-Illinois[?]
-The President’s memorandum to Haldeman
-Scali

Drug issue

Presidential leadership
-Connally’s views
-The PRC trip
-Pay Board
-Drugs
-Vacuum of leadership
-MacGregor
-Byrnes and Gerald R. Ford
-Busing discussion
-Pay Board discussion
-Meany
-Television
-The President’s appearances
-Pay Board compared to busing
-Morale in Congress
-Drug issue
-Connally
-The President’s schedule
-Drugs
-Appearances
-Rose Garden
-Handshaking
-Drug meeting
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 325-10 (cont.)


-New York

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 12:12 pm and 12:45 pm.

Pay Board statement
-AFL-CIO
-Percentage of wage earners
-Estimates
-Timing of statement
-Prime time
-Connally’s view
-The President’s view
-Meany

Haldeman left at 12:45 pm.
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