357–11

Conversation No. 357-11

Date: September 21, 1972
Time: 3:15 pm - 5:02 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

Grain sales to the Soviet Union
-Possible statement by the President
-William L. Safire
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Situation
-Earl L. Butz
-Knowledge by high officials
-Possible firings from jobs
-News coverage
-George Meany's conversation with George P. Shultz
-Public relations response
-Butz
-Letters from George S. McGovern to Paul Hall in 1965
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-Wheat dealers relations with McGovern


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Public statements
-The President's conversation with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Language in speeches
-Drug statement
-Price's staff
-The President’s view
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-The President’s State Department speech
-Publicity
-Press coverage
-Aram Bakshian, Jr.
-Noel C. Koch
-1972 election

Meany
-Statement

Dr. John C. Lungren
-Previous call to the President
-Break-in of Lungren's office
-Contents
-The President’s medical file
-Break-in
-The President’s view
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Possible publicity
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-Arnold A. Hutschnecker
-Rose Mary Woods
-Purpose
-Compared to Watergate
-Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr.
-FBI investigation
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Haldeman
-Public relations

1972 campaign
-McGovern's conversation with assembly workers
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] coverage of two unnamed workers
-Archie Bunker comparison
-Vietnam veteran
-News summary

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:15 pm.

Haldeman's schedule

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:46 pm.

1972 campaign
-Vietnam veteran
-Response to inquiries by McGovern
-Albert E. Sindlinger's call to Colson
-Sindlinger’s background
-Sindlinger's wife
-US public reaction to McGovern on Vietnam issue
-Boston Globe
-Haldeman's analysis of McGovern's campaign
-Vietnam War
-Vietnam as an issue
-Number of wounded and killed by North Vietnam
-Henry A. Kissinger's staff
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Cambodia and Laos

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:15 pm.
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Haldeman's schedule

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:46 pm.

Vietnam War
-Catholic Bishop of Da Nang, 1964
-Casualties


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-Amnesty issue
-Administration's position
-Jail
-Canada
-Canada, Sweden
-Average US worker
-Colson’s view
-Idea toward amnesty and support of America
-White House staffers
-Economic issue
-August 1972 statistics
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-Wholesale [Price] Index [WPI]
-Stock market
-Reelection of the President
-Stock reaction
-George H. Gallup
-Louis P. Harris
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Watergate

McGovern's handling of Vietnam issue
-Hanoi trip
-Paris trip

Watergate
-William F. Buckley, Jr.'s column about E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Buckley’s relationship with Hunt
-Bernard Barker
-McGovern
-McGovern's reaction
-McGovern's campaign
-Question of source of money
-Fidel Castro
-McGovern’s reaction to story
-Unknown person
-Philadelphia
-Buchanan
-Kenneth W. Clawson
-The President’s statement


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Campaign finances
-John B. Connally
-Henry Kimelman
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Disclosure
-Public statement
-Eunice Kennedy Shriver
-McGovern-Shriver ticket
-Income
-Limitations because of income
-Edward W. Kennedy
-Robert F. Kennedy
-Clark MacGregor’s response
-John F. Kennedy
-1958 campaign
-News coverage
-Comparison to 1972 campaign
-Joseph P. Kennedy
-Edward Kennedy
-Money involved in campaign
-Mrs. Shriver
-Shriver’s statement
-McGovern's campaign

Campaign practices
-Rallies, hecklers
-McGovern
-Image
-Efforts
-Size of campaign crowds

Watergate
-Buckley's column on Hunt
-CIA
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-Motives
-Colson
-Colson’s view
-Fidel Castro
-James J. Kilpatrick, Jr.
-The President’s conversation with Sanchez
-Buckley’s column
-Effect on McGovern


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An unknown person talked with the President at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 4:36
pm.

[Conversation No. 357-11A]

The President’s schedule

[End of telephone conversation]


1972 campaign issues
-James D. Hodgson
-Economic issues
-Robert J. Dole
-Amnesty issue
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-The President’s view
-Melvin R. Laird
-Colson's conversation with John A. Scali
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The President talked with Haldeman between 4:36 pm and 4:38 pm.

[Conversation No. 357-11B]

[See Conversation No. 30-14]

[End of telephone conversation]

Campaign practices
-Break-in of Lungren's office
-Press stories
-Idea of cover up
-Public reactions
-Motive
-Thomas F. Eagleton


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Public relations
-Sindlinger polls
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-Sindlinger’s view


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Issues and campaign practices
-Watergate issue
-McCarthyism
-Tax issue
-George C. Wallace
-Harris poll
-Wealthy
-Property tax
-McGovern
-Tax reform
-McGovern's position on tax program
-Corporate taxes
-Personal income taxes
-National defense
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-News summary
-Welfare
-McGovern plan
-McGovern’s credibility
-The President's possible veto of water bill
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Taxes
-Spending
-John W. Byrnes, William B. Saxbe
-Budget
-Benefits
-Colson’s view
-Conservatism of American people
-Massachusetts primary


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Vietnam
-Poll questions
-The public’s view
-The President's conversation with Laird
-Atmosphere of US
-Bombings in Vietnam
-Shriver
-Harris poll
-1968
-Vietnam casualties
-Social unrest
-Narcotics and drug abuse
-Immorality
-Values of American people

McGovern's campaign
-Shriver
-Potential problems
-Vietnam War
-Perception of appeasement

Colson left at 5:02 pm.