382–13

Conversation No. 382-13

Date: December 16, 1972
Time: 3:45 pm - 5:25 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

White House renovation
-Bowling alley
-Driveway
-Locker room, whirlpool, sauna, shower
-Costs
-Donations
-Construction
-Sauna, pool
-Maintenance
-Air conditioning, electrical, CO2 system, satellite [?] systems,
fire protection
-Construction
-Donations
-Sauna, whirlpool
-White House
-Maintenance
-Air conditioning
-Donations
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Funds
-Whirlpool, sauna
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-Locker room facility

Second term reorganization
-Announcement
-Agency heads and Under Secretaries
-Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-George P. Shultz
-Ehrlichman
-Departure
-Ehrlichman’s view
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-[John C. Fletcher]
-Ehrlichman’s view
-AEC
-[Dixy Lee Ray]
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Intelligence
-View of organization chart
-Positions of Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Henry A. Kissinger
-Compared to Counselors to the President
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Robert H. Finch
-Counselor to the President
-Cabinet rank
-Withdrawal
-Italian-American
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Rumsfeld
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Responsibilities
-Bicentennial
-Prisoners of War [POWs] and Missing In Action [MIAs]
-Voluntarism
-Ehrlichman
-Women
-White House staff
-Concerns
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-Counselor to the President
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Shultz
-Treasury Department
-Counselors to the President
-Armstrong
-Staff
-Kissinger
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Armstrong
-Announcement
-Timing
-Women’s group meeting
-Ray
-Leak

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:27
pm.

Haldeman talked with Ronald L. Ziegler at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:27 pm.

[Conversation No. 382-13A]

[See Conversation No. 34-100]

Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Responsibilities
-Bicentennial
-POWs
-Announcement

[End of telephone conversation]

Second term reorganization
-Statistics on appointments of women
-Instruction for Ziegler
-Announcement
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Federal Aviation Administration [FAA]
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Press relations
-Ziegler
-Barbara Walters
-“Today Show”
-Ziegler’s possible conversation with Virginia Sherwood [of American
Broadcasting Corporation] [ABC]

The President’s schedule
-Elmer H. Bobst
-Recommended telephone call from the President
-Library dedication
-Cabinet members’ schedule
-Cancellation
-Birthday party
-White House

Rose Mary Woods’s schedule
-1972 campaign
-Oval Office

Vietnam negotiations
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-The President’s view
-Possible trip to Saigon
-The President’s letter [to Nguyen Van Thieu]
-The President’s conversation with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Haldeman’s view
-Possible telephone call from Ronald W. Reagan

Second term reorganization
-Status of Cabinet in second term
-Armstrong
-Counselor to the President
-Responsibilities

Manolo Sanchez [?] entered at an unknown time after 3:45 pm.

Refreshments
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:27 pm.

Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Status
-White House staff
-Protocol
-Responsibilities
-POWs, MIAs
-Announcement
-Recruiting of women
-Bicentennial
-Agnew
-Counselor to the President
-Special assignments
-Policy
-Work with the President and Cabinet
-Women
-Interests
-Role in government
-Credibility
-Blacks
-John A. Scali
-Ambassadorship to United Nations [UN]
-Press relations
-UN
-Press relations
-Qualifications
-Qualifications
-William P. Rogers
-Conversation with Haldeman
-ABC
-Diplomatic correspondent experience
-The President’s trips to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
and the Soviet Union

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:27
pm.

[Conversation No. 382-13B]
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[See Conversation No. 34-101]

[End of telephone call]

Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Counselor to the President
-Meetings
-Compared to Finch
-Role as spokesperson
-Staff
-Size
-Barbara H. Franklin
-Administrative assistant
-Schedule

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Seating arrangements
-Armstrong
-Josephine (Brickley) Brennan
-Carol (Girard) Simon
-Instruction for Butterfield
-Cabinet
-Sub-Cabinet
-Armstrong
-Announcement
-Press relations
-The President’s possible remarks
-Edward R. G. Heath
-Visit to US
-Timing
-1973 Inauguration

1972 campaign funds
-Surplus
-Disposition
-The President’s meeting with Maurice H. Stans
-Confidentiality
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Disposition
-Alternatives
-Republican National Committee [RNC] debts
-Stans’s view
-Return to contributors
-Carry over
-1974, 1976
-Republican National Command Committee
-Senate and House campaign committees
-Republican state committees
-Congressional and Senatorial candidates’ debts
-GOP endowment fund
-Income
-Use
-Recruitment
-Bicentennial
-Reporting
-Campaign clean up fund
-Timing
-December 1972
-Post-campaign expenses
-Litigation
-Taxes
-Stock sales
-Refunds
-Appointments
-Nixon Foundation
-Tax deductions
-Campaign committees

The White House operator talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 3:45 pm and 4:27
pm.

[Conversation No. 381-13C]

[See Conversation No. 34-102]

[End of telephone conversation]

1972 campaign funds
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-Post-campaign expenses
-1974 campaign
-Stans
-Peter H. Dominick, Bob Wilson
-Conversation with Stans
-Congressional campaign funds for incumbents or challengers
-Herbert Brownell
-Daniel K .Ludwig
-Dan Evans
-Washington State
-Jack Eckerd
-Florida
-Thomas Spencer Shore
-Wiley Buchanan
-Ohio
-Stans
-Contribution amounts
-Compared to pledges
-Refunds
-Clifford Folger
-Stans
-Charles W. Colson, John B. Connally
-Stans
-Surplus
-Disposition
-Candidates
-1970
-Clean up fund
-The President’s meeting with Stans
-Reporting
-RNC
-January 1973
-Liabilities
-1968 campaign
-Nixon Foundation
-Fundraiser
-Capitol Hill Club
-Dwight D. Eisenhower Center
-Nixon wing
-Library
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Ziegler entered at 4:27 pm.

Armstrong’s location

Ziegler’s press conference
-Timing

Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Counselor to the President
-Leak
-Cabinet rank
-Responsibilities
-Work with the President, Cabinet
-Women
-Interests
-Bicentennial
-Agnew
-Politics
-Donald H. Rumsfeld, Finch
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Arthur F. Burns
-Special assignments
-EOB office
-Cabinet rank
-Leak
-Texas
-Dallas Morning News
-Jackson B. Krueger
-Dallas Times Herald
-John Taylor [?]
-Press
-Houston
-San Antonio Light
-Houston Chronicle
-Dallas newspapers
-Hearst newspaper
-San Antonio Light
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-1972 election
-Texas newspapers
-Washington Star
-Washington Post
-Morning editions

Vietnam negotiations
-Kissinger’s press conference
-Press relations
-Kissinger’s “peace is at hand” comment, October 26, 1972
-News summary
-Ziegler’s view
-Tone
-Format
-Paragraph
-The President’s memoranda
-Ziegler’s efforts
-Points
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Cease-fire
-US bombing north of 20th Parallel

Press relations
-Washington Star
-Washington Post

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 5:25 pm.

Press relations
-Leaks
-Ziegler
-Washington Post

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Armstrong
-Church service
-Meeting with Stans
-Meeting with William D. Ruckelshaus
-Meeting with Richard G. Kleindienst
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Ehrlichman’s recommendation
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Loyalty
-Personality

Second term reorganization
-Patrick J. Buchanan’s and Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin’s analysis
-News summary
-The President’s conversation with Colson
-Personalities
-Changes
-Ziegler, Colson
-Compared to Theodore Roosevelt, 1904
-Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1936
-Eisenhower, 1956
-Rogers
-Cabinet
-Labor Department
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Kleindienst
-Press relations
-Labor Department, Agriculture Department, State Department
-Ambassadorships
-Agencies

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Seating arrangements
-Armstrong
-Carol Simon
-Josephine Brennan

New Majority
-Snobs
-The President’s constituency
-Compared to intellectual elite
-Suburbanites
-The President’s conversation with Colson
-Church service
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Andrew Jackson analogy
-Democrats
-Previous visitors to the White House
-Receiving line
-Red, white, and blue attire
-Press relations
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

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Party affiliation
-Connally
-Robert S. Strauss
-Potential Presidential candidates
-Agnew
-Charles H. Percy

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The President’s schedule
-Appointments and commissions
-Vietnam War
-US bombing north of 20th Parallel
-Diplomatic credentials
-Surrogates reception
-Number of guests
-Surrogates
-Departures
-Sally (Hornbogen) Peterson
-Cabinet dinner
-Seating arrangements
-Sally Peterson
-Under Secretaries
-Cabinet
-Young voters
-Volunteers and staff
-Surrogates reception
-White House staff
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Cabinet dinner
-The President’s role
-Hand-shaking
-Surrogates reception
-Young voters
-The President’s possible comments


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Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Role in 1972 campaign
-Celebrity
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Personality
-Tricia Nixon Cox

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The President’s schedule
-Physical examination
-Mrs. Nixon’s schedule
-Tea
-Diplomatic children’s reception
-The President’s role
-Hand-shaking
-Vietnam War
-US bombing north of 20th Parallel
-The President’s telephone calls
-Howard R. Hughes
-Birthday

Second term reorganization
-Compared to 1968
-Campaign advance men
-Recruitment
-Who’s Who
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Cabinet
-Assistant Secretaries
-Introductions
-Checking
-Staffing
-Harry S. Flemming
-Compared to Frederic V. Malek
-Cabinet transitions
-Malek’s role
-Surrogates
-Departures
-1972 campaign
-James M. Beggs
-Transportation Under Secretary
-Cabinet dinner
-Mary Elizabeth (Harrison) Begg’s role in 1972 campaign
-Organization of wives
-Departure
-Fundraising

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Herbert G. Klein
-Colson
-Reception for 1972 election supporters

Second term reorganization
-William J. Baroody, Jr.
-Haldeman’s view
-The President’s conversation with Colson
-Physical appearance
-Compared to William J. Baroody
-Lebanese-American background
-Personality
-Compared to Colson
-Politics
-Previous work with Melvin R. Laird
-White House staff
-Adversary role
-Policy
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1972 campaign
-Mrs. Nixon
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Tricia Nixon Cox

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Second term reorganization
-Michael J. Balzano, Jr.
-Ehrlichman’s view
-1972 campaign
-Michigan

1972 campaign
-Balzano’s role
-Compared to John C. Whitaker
-Michigan
-Colson’s view
-Colson’s conversation with Ehrlichman
-Busing
-Michigan
-Busing
-Colson’s role
-Martin S. Hayden’s view
-Edwin L. Harper’s view
-Ehrlichman staff
-Robert P. Griffin’s view

Second term reorganization
-Balzano
-Haldeman’s view
-The President’s view
-Education
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Compared to Donald F. Rodgers
-Rodgers
-Haldeman’s conversation with Colson

Public relations [PR]
-Administration performance
-Credit
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Eisenhower administration
-Eisenhower’s administration
-Ehlrichman’s staff
-Whitaker
-Balzano
-Finch
-Work in 1960 campaign
-Leonard Hall
-Value
-Travel
-Herbert G. Klein
-Managerial ability
-Possible departure
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Colson

Press relations
-CBS
-Washington Post
-New York Times
-Washington Post
-Effect
-Congressmen and Senators
-Compared to CBS, New York Times
-Congressmen and Senators
-News summaries
-Colson’s view
-News summaries
-Tone
-Buchanan
-1972 election
-Cartoons
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Hebert L. Block

Personnel
-Vacations
-The President’s conversation with Ehrlichman

Speeches
-1973 Inauguration
-William L. Safire
-Theodore Roosevelt’s Inaugural address
-Length

Second term reorganization
-Budget
-Revenue sharing
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Ehrlichman
-Summer Youth Program
-Agnew
-Weinberger
-Ehrlichman
-Weinberger
-Defense Department
-Elliot L. Richardson, William P. Clements, Jr.
-Duplication
-Research and development [R & D]
-Air Force
-Haig

-Dr. James R. Schlesinger
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Budget
-Defense Intelligence Agency [DIA]
-“Washington cocktail set”
-Meeting with John C. Stennis
-Timing
-Stennis’s meeting with Richardson
-Harry S. Dent
-Relationship with Stennis
-Meeting with Stennis
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Richard M. Helms
-Helms
-Cabinet dinner
-Ambassadorship to Iran
-The President’s conversations with Kissinger and Henry M. (“Scoop”)
Jackson
-Saudi Arabia
-Connally’s location

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Toast
-Rogers
-Christmas
-1972 election
-Cabinet, wives
-New Majority
-Peter J. Brennan
-Reaction

The President left and entered at an unknown time before 5:25 pm.

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Toast
-Armstrong
-Moynihan
-Scali
-Armstrong

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:27 pm and 5:25
pm.

[Conversation No. 382-13D]

[See Conversation No. 34-103]

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time before 5:25 pm.

[End of telephone conversation]
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)


The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Toast
-Rumsfeld
-George H. W. Bush
-Armstrong
-Moynihan
-Harlow
-Moynihan

PR
-Bowling alley
-Harry S. Truman
-Basement
-Pool

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Toast
-Armstrong
-Moynihan

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:27 pm.

Request for Manolo Sanchez

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 5:25 pm.

White House
-Bowling alley
-Costs
-Donations
-Rebozo

Haldeman talked with Armstrong at an unknown time between 4:27 pm and 5:25 pm.

[Conversation No. 382-13E]

[See Conversation No. 34-104]
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[End of telephone conversation]

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Toast
-Armstrong
-Conversations with Haldeman and the President
-Agnew

Haldeman talked to an unknown person [Lawrence M. Higby] at an unknown time between 4:27
pm and 5:25 pm.

[Conversation No. 382-13F]

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Seating arrangements
-Armstrong
-Armstrong’s schedule
-Transportation
-Mayflower Hotel
-Young voters
-Greetings by the President and Mrs. Nixon
-Hand-shaking
-East Room

[End of telephone conversation]

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Armstrong’s schedule
-Transportation
-Hand-shaking

Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Counselor to the President
-Responsibilities
-Politics
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Conversation No. 382-13 (cont’d)

-Women
-POWs
-Organization chart
-Haldeman
-Compared to Finch, Rumsfeld

Haldeman left at 5:25 pm.