390–14

Conversation No. 390-14

Date: November 2, 1972
Time: 5:35 pm - 6:38 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

The President's forthcoming speech, “Look to the Future”
-Taping
-Problems
-Starts
-Camera
-Number of people in room
-Secret Service agent’s presence
-Duration
-The President’s schedule
-Number of words in speech
-William H. Carruthers
-Responsibility
-Duration
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1971 campaign
-The President’s schedule
-Candidate telephone calls
-Press coverage
-The President’s trip
-Timing
-Departure
-Meeting with Margaret Chase Smith
-Candidate telephone calls
-Edward W. Brooke
-List
-Congress
-John K. MacIver
-Wisconsin
-Thomas J. Meskill
-Connecticut
-William T. Cahill
-New Jersey
-Robert P. Griffin
-Michigan
-Robert W. Hirsch
-South Dakota
-Wesley Powell
-J. Caleb Boggs
-Delaware
-John G. Tower
-Texas
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Tennessee
-Jack Miller
-Iowa
-Clifford P. Hansen
-Smith
-Henry P. Smith III
-Brooke
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-William L. Scott
-Virginia
-Value
-Ohio
-S. Fletcher Thompson
-Kansas
-Republican National Committee [RNC] Chairman
-Robert J. Dole
-Scheduling
-Length of calls
-Audiences
-Margaret Smith
-Gerald R. Ford, Hugh Scott, Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
-Colorado
-Gordon L. Alcott
-Value
-Purpose
-Arrangements
-Publicity
-Big States
-Illinois
-New York
-California
-Missouri
-Christopher S. (“Kit”) Bond
-Radio addresses
-Foreign policy
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Scheduling
-Press release
-Polls
-Results
-Charles W. Colson
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Shifts

Manolo Sanchez and Alexander P. Butterfield [?] entered at an unknown time between 5:35 pm
and 6:00 pm.

Dinner
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The President’s schedule

Sanchez and Butterfield [?] left at an unknown time before 6:00 pm.

-Sindlinger
-Questions
-Wording
-Analysis
-George S. McGovern votes
-Approval rating
-Performance
-Vietnam
-Wisconsin
-Compared to Illinois
-The President’s showing
-Changes
-Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]

[Pause]

1972 Campaign
-Speech
-Ronald L. Ziegler

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The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:35 pm and
6:00 pm.

[Conversation No. 390-14A]

Request for a call to John D. Ehrlichman

[End of telephone conversation]

National health insurance
-Compulsory compared to voluntary program
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-Ehrlichman’s knowledge
-The President’s forthcoming radio address on health policy
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:35 pm and 6:00
pm.

[Conversation No. 390-14B]

[See Conversation No. 32-153A]

National health insurance
-Radio address on health policy
-Revision
-Ehrlichman
-Compulsory compared to voluntary program

[End of telephone conversation]

Haldeman talked with an unknown woman from Cole’s office at an unknown time between 5:35
pm and 6:00 pm.

[Conversation No. 390-14B]

[See conversation No. 32-153B]

[End of telephone conversation]

National health insurance
-Compulsory compared to voluntary program
-HEW
-Socialists
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Donald H. Rumsfeld

The White House operator talked with Haldeman at 6:00 pm.

[Conversation No. 390-14C]

[See Conversation No. 32-154A]
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The President talked with Ehrlichman between 6:00 pm and 6:04 pm.

[Conversation No. 390-14D]

[See Conversation No. 32-154B]

[End of telephone conversation]

National health insurance
-Ehrlichman's and the President’s view
-Richardson
-Christian Science
-Haldeman’s view
-Christian Science
-Socialism compared to free enterprise


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1972 campaign
-Polls
-Vietnam
-Bombing halt
-The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Tone
-Poll results
-Support for the President
-Impact of war’s end
-Speech
-Importance
-Peace with honor

Manolo Sanchez entered at 6:15 pm.

Dinner

Sanchez left at 6:15 pm.
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1972 campaign
-Vietnam
-Speech
-Tone
-Agreements
-Connally’s views
-Impact of election
-Hanoi, North Vietnam
-Moscow, Soviet Union
-Reporter
-McGovern
-Compared to Franklin D. Roosevelt

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-Hecklers
-San Diego incident at Vice President Spiro T. Agnew speech
-Assault on heckler
-Demonstrators
-Physical appearance of two men in altercation
-Archie Bunker analogy
-Jo Anne (Horton) Haldeman’s viewing
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Ziegler report
-Public relations [PR]
-The President
-Nassau
-San Francisco
-Liberty Island
-Julie Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox
-San Diego
-Tone
-Agnew’s report
-Administration wives’ bus trip incident
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger’s report
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Washington, DC
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-Jane (Dalton) Weingerber
-Fresno, California
-Conversation with unknown “Chicano”
-Motivation for heckling
-Payment by George S. McGovern campaign
-Television [TV] coverage
-Payment by McGovern campaign
-Press relations
-Lack of balance
-John S. (“Jack”) Knight
-Nicholas P. Thimmersch

Watergate
-Dirty tricks
-Donald H. Segretti
-Recruitment
-Responsibility
-Committee for the Re-election of the President [CRP]
-John N. Mitchell
-G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
-John Mitchell
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Dwight L. Chapin
-Investigation

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 6:15 pm.

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:38 pm.

-Investigation
-Chapin
-Charles W. Colson
-Rowland Evans and Robert Novak column
-Liddy
-Mitchell
-Conversations with the President
-Colson
-1970 Campaign
-Segretti
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-Operation Sandwedge
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
-John J. (“Jack”) Caulfield
-Mitchell
-Responsibility
-Mitchell
-The President
-Chapin
-Colson
-Press relations
-The President’s reaction
-The President’s location
-Florida
-Involvement
-Segretti
-Liddy
-Mitchell and an unknown person
-Colson
-Finance Committee
-White House
-Chapin
-Segretti
-Recruitment
-Investigation
-Problems
-Chapin
-Segretti
-Chapin
-Mitchell
-Martha Mitchell
-1972 election
-Peter Flanigan’s views
-Possible TV appearance by the President


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1972 campaign
-Wisconsin
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-Illinois
-Minnesota
-Importance
-Minnesota
-Illinois
-Wisconsin
-William Proxmire, Gaylord Nelson
-Democratic governor
-Republican Party
-Decline
-Organization
-Catholic vote
-The President’s chances
-Minnesota
-Advertisements
-Number
-Radio
-TV
-NBC
-CBS
-Reruns
-Local stations
-Number
-Sale of time
-Prime time
-CBS
-Negotiations
-McGovern’s program
-Options
-Carruthers
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-CBS
-Vietnam
-Bombing halt
-1968 campaign
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham

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The President's schedule
-Church services
-The President's attendance
-Breakfast prayer meeting
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-White House staff
-Church services
-Photograph opportunities
-The President’s attendance
-Photograph opportunities
-Breakfast prayer meeting
-Graham
-Photograph opportunity
-Schedule
-Radio talks

Watergate
-Concern
-Republicans
-Democrats
-Attitudes
-Wilbur D. Mills
-J. William Fulbright


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1972 campaign
-President’s trip to Chicago
-Size of crowds
-Press coverage
-News wires
-New York Times
-Telephone calls
-Republican candidates
-The President’s popularity
-Scott
-Powell
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-Peter H. Dominick
-Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson
-Identification with the President
-McGovern
-John J. Sparkman’s support
-Polls
-Changes
-Robert J. Dole

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Haldeman left at 6:38 pm.