416-018a

Conversation No. 416-18

Date: March 1, 1973
Time: 5:40 pm-6:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

Yitzhak Rabin's birthday

[Pause]

Rose Mary Woods [?]
-President’s tenure
-Term length


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Breeding of King Timahoe
-[First name unknown] Elderidge
-Female dog
-Right selection
-Pedigree
-Owners
-Litter
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-Pick of the litter
-Age of puppies
-President’s choice
-Stud fee
-Puppies
-Number
-Irish setters
-Springer spaniels
-Labrador retrievers
-Litter
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Selection of puppies

John B. Connally [?]

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:40 pm.

King Timahoe

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:00 pm.

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Jerry H. Jones
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Personnel

Wilbur D. Mills
-Talk with Connally
-Drinking
-Health
-George P. Shultz
-Medication
-Surcharge
-Criticism of Shultz
-David L. Parr
-Milk producers
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-Presence with Mills
-Milk subsidies


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Connally
-Party change
-Rumors
-George Christian
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Comments on Connally’s change in parties
-Marvin Watson
-Change in party allegiance

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Watson
-Post in administration
-Armand Hammer
-Integrity
-Support for President
-Abilities
-Post Office position
-Graham
-Appointment process
-Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
-Watson's desire for position
-Cabinet office
-Transportation Secretary

Veterans Administration [VA]
-Donald E. Johnson
-Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW)
-William J. Baroody, Jr.
-Deputy administrator
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-Murray M. Chotiner
-Opposition to Johnson
-Reasons
-Deputies
-Controversy
-Firing
-Fred B. Rhodes
-Rufus H. Wilson
-Richard L. Roudebush
-John D. Ehrlichman

Robert C. Seamans, Jr.
-Elliot L. Richardson's proposal
-Defense Department position
-Robert S. McNamara
-Qualifications
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-Systems analysis
-Scientist
-David Packard's support
-Air Force
-Richardson
-Henry A. Kissinger's opinion
-Softness
-[First name unknown]Wheeler [?]
-Richardson
-Reasons for nominations

John S. Patterson
-Ties to President
-Subversive Activities Control Board [SACB]
-Age
-Executive order
-SACB
-Discontinuation
-Funding
-Board members
-Retirement
-Alternative position
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-Congress

Under Secretary of Commerce
-Candidates
-George D. Webster
-Bryan F. Smith
-Texas Instruments [TI]
-Connally ties
-William P. Clements, Jr.
-Qualifications
-Webster
-Desire for job
-Charles W. Colson
-Support
-Qualification
-Promises of job
-Discussion

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5;40 pm.

King Timahoe

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6;00 pm.


-Smith
-Connally's support
-Background
-Support for President
-Texas
-Webster
-Problems
-Other job
-Qualifications
-Treasury Department
-General Counsel
-Shultz’s preference
-President's decision
-Discussion with Colson
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Federal Loan Bank Board
-Appointment of chairman
-Problem
-John A. Stastny
-Home builder
-Opposition to Hunt Commission
-New legislation
-Candidate
-Qualifications
-Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation
-Better candidate

Under Secretary of Commerce
-Frederick B. Dent
-Smith

Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA] director appointment
-Candidates
-Kissinger's views
-Philip J. Farley
-Kissinger's recommendation
-[First name unknown] Hertzfeld
-Bell Laboratories
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Conflict of interest
-Safeguard software
-American Telephone and Telegraph [AT&T]
-International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
-Fred C. Ikle
-Rand Corporation
-Second choice
-Anti-Ballistic Missile [ABM] debate
-Confirmation chances
-Jackson's choice
-Ability
-Acceptability
-Kissinger
-Age
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-Deputy directors
-Ikle
-Jackson’s favor

Ethnic appointees
-Blacks
-Italian-Americans
-Mexican-Americans
-Polish-Americans
-Honorary posts

Robert H McBride
-Ambassadorial post
-Mexico

Foreign Service Officers [FSOs]

Mexico
-US ambassador
-Qualifications
-[First name unknown] Reynolds
-Ecuador

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 6;00 pm.

Questions [?]

US ambassador in Sudan
-Kissinger
-Hostages
-Captor demands
-Airplane shoot down

Wounded Knee occupation
-“Custer’s Last Stand”
-Ziegler’s response
-Bureau of Indian Affairs
-Ehrlichman
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
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-Update

Watergate
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] report
-Press questions for Ziegler
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III [?]

Haldeman talked with Cole at an unknown time between 6:00 pm and 6:20 pm.

[Conversation No. 416-18A]

[See Conversation No. 37-25]

American Indians
-BIA

Watergate
-Investigation
-E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Dita Beard
-Comments to the press

[End of telephone conversation]

Wounded Knee occupation
-BIA involvement
-John C. Whitaker
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Marshals
-Negotiations
-Hostages
-BIA involvement
-Press questions for Ziegler

Capture of US ambassador
-Palestinians
-US policy on hostages
-Connection to American Indian affairs
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Press relations
-North Vietnam

Watergate
-Donald H. Segretti
-Story in New York Times
-Charles W. Colson and E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-White House investigation
-Statement for press
-Executive privilege
-Statement

Press relations
-Prisoners of war [POWs] story
-Publicity
-Aid for administration’s standing
-George S. McGovern
-Policy on POWs
-Vietnam settlement
-Concessions
-Minesweeping
-POW issue
-Negotiations
-Linkage
-Saigon
-Agreements
-US contacts with all parties
-Vietnam settlement
-Cease-fire violations
-International Commission of Control and Supervision [ICCS]
-US contacts
-Ziegler’s comments
-Gen. Gilbert H. Woodward
-Decline
-Woodward
-Statement on missile sites
-US response [?]

Ziegler left at 6:20 pm.
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United States Secret Service [USSS]
-Problem
-Agent's meeting with Haldeman
-Robert H. (“Bob”) Taylor
-James J. Rowley and Lilburn E. (“Pat”) Boggs
-Conflict with Taylor
-Taylor's departure
-Haldeman's meeting with Taylor and William H. Duncan
-Taylor's feelings
-Clinton J. Hill
-Dislike of Taylor, Haldeman, and President
-Alan Cox
-Supporter of Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Cover up
-Assignment to Treasury Department
-Assistant Director at headquarters
-Edward L. Morgan
-Ehrlichman
-Handling of problem
-Conversation with Taylor and Duncan
-Call from Rowley
-Boggs
-Drinking
-Richard E. Keiser [Kaiser]
-Presidential protection detail
-Acting director
-Clothing
-Haircuts
-Mustaches
-Grooming
-Respect for presidency
-Compared to Taylor
-Opinion of young agents
-Esprit de corps
-Marine Corps
-Agents drinking on a trip
-Opinion
-John F. Kennedy assassination
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-USSS failures
-Drinking the night before
-Impact on protection
-Warren Report
-Politics
-Compared with FBI
-Impact on President
-Helen A. Thomas article
-Source
-Rose Mary Woods
-Duncan
-Rowley and Boggs
-Hill
-Abilities
-Transfer
-Current responsibilities
-Rowley
-Other agents' opinions
-Retirement date
-Replacement
-Boggs
-Haldeman's plan
-Hill’s removal
-Taylor
-Promotion
-Hill
-Loyalty
-Respect of other agents


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PRESIDENTIAL PROTECTION

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-Photographer
-Taylor
-Evaluation
-Boggs and Rowley
-Hill
-Taylor
-Source for Thomas story
-Need to transfer
-Kennedy loyalist
-Background
-Lyndon B. Johnson detail in Texas
-Hostility to Haldeman
-Need for shakeup
-Plan
-Morgan
-Duncan and Taylor
-Keiser [Kaiser]
-Appearance of agents
-Mustaches
-J. Edgar Hoover at FBI
-Taylor
-Loyalty to President
-Vice Presidency, 1953-1961
-Promotion
-Duncan
-Motivations
-Transfer
-Boggs
-Loyalty to administration
-Rowley
-Retirement date
-John Kennedy, Johnson, Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy


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John V. (“Jack”) Brennan
-Johnson
-Promotion of unknown man
-Promotion
-Vietnam record

Maj. Gen. James D. Hughes
-Promotion

Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
-Promotion to general

Military aides
-Selection
-Army
-Air Force
-Navy
-Army
-Air Force
-Scowcroft

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 6:20 pm.

Order

Departure

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:40 pm.
Dwight L. Chapin
-Departure from White House staff
-Location
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-Delta Airlines
-Chicago

Dog
-Breeding
-Dignity


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Personal appointments [?]
-Answer
-Alternative candidate
-Unknown woman
-Unknown man

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Haldeman left at 6:40 pm.