425–10

Conversation No. 425-10

Date: March 28, 1973
Time: 12:45 pm - 1:45 p.m.
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

Watergate
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Conversation with John W. Dean, III
-Jeb S. Magruder's story
-Responsibility for plan
-E. Howard Hunt, Jr., G. Gordon Liddy, Charles W. Colson
-Colson's calls to Magruder
-Lawrence F. O'Brien information
-Hunt and Liddy with Colson
-Frederick C. LaRue with Magruder
-O'Brien information
-Florida convention
-Liddy
-Connection with Gordon C. Strachan
-Wire tap information
-Notes given to James W. McCord, Jr. by Baldwin [first name unknown]
-Liddy's copies
-Magruder
-White House
-Strachan, Colson
-Strachan's conversation regarding approval of plan
-Haldeman
-The President
-John N. Mitchell
-White House knowledge
-Colson, W. Richard Howard, Strachan and Haldeman
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-Colson
-Howard
-Strachan
-Haldeman
-Strachan's story
-Haldeman's knowledge
-Mitchell's conversation with Haldeman
-Dean's agreement with Magruder prior to Magruder's testimony
-Subjects discussed during January 1972 meetings in Mitchell's office
-Magruder's story
-Herbert (\"Bart\") Porter
-Conversation with Dean regarding forthcoming testimony
-Disbursement of cash to Liddy
-Dean
-Subornation of perjury
-Magruder
-Porter
-Role of Mitchell and their lawyers
-Mitchell's and Magruder's testimony regarding meetings on intelligence
proposals
-Haldeman's request to come to Washington, DC
-Magruder's story
-Meetings in Mitchell's office
-Liddy
-Presentation
-Budget authorization
-Mitchell
-Magruder
-Dean
-Colson
-Magruder's authority
-Liddy
-Employment by Magruder
-Firing by Magruder
-Strachan's order to Magruder
-Magruder's story
-Porter's forthcoming testimony on cash payments
-Pre-April 1972 payments
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-Colson
-Howard
-Purchase of books
-Effort to increase sales of Edith Efron's book
-Colson
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy mailing in New Hampshire
-Authorization
-Liddy's work, January-March 1972
-Colson's statement about President's ordering mailing
-Mitchell
-Testimony on meetings in Mitchell's office
-Dean's influence
-Liddy's role in committee
-Magruder's diary showing several meetings
-Mitchell's story of post-Watergate meetings regarding forthcoming
testimony on Liddy
-Meetings
-Credibility of witnesses
-Subjects discussed
-Prior knowledge of Watergate
-Rejection of plan
-Liddy's and McCord's work on budget
-$250,000 for Liddy
-Credibility
-Fear of exposure of perjury
-Colson
-Previous testimony
-Strachan
-Dean
-Magruder
-Family
-Money
-Reassurance by Mitchell and Haldeman

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 1:45
pm.

[Conversation No. 425-10A]
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[See Conversation No. 44-48]

[End of telephone conversation]

Haldeman talked with the Camp David operator at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 1:45
pm.

[Conversation No. 425-10B]

[See Conversation No. 44-49]

Haldeman talked with John W. Dean, III at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 1:45 pm.

[End of telephone conversation]

Watergate
-Magruder's concerns
-Colson
-Involvement
-Magruder
-Mitchell
-Campaign irregularities
-Mitchell
-Ehrlichman
-View of testimony before Ervin Committee
-Senior White House staff
-Providing information
-Grand jury
-Magruder
-Dean
-Possible denial of involvement
-Liddy
-Possible testimony regarding Watergate
-White House involvement
-Others' involvement
-Lawyer-client privilege
-Colson
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-Possible challenges to testimony
-Magruder
-Strachan
-Dean
-Possible immunity
-Mitchell
-Involvement in Watergate
-Meetings with Liddy
-Testimony
-Magruder's story
-Perjury
-Effect on Mitchell
-Jail
-Fears
-Los Angeles Times article
-Ervin Committee investigation of political activities
-Suit in California
-$65,000 payment to unknown person
-Ervin Committee
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-McCord
-Kleindienst
-Ervin and Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-William E. Timmons's role as White House Congressional liaison
-Dean
-John G. Tower
-Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.'s vote
-Edward J. Gurney and Baker
-Weicker's interest
-Haldeman
-Committee staff's opinion
-Weicker
-Donald H. Segretti
-White House cooperation
-Effect
-TV
-Kleindienst's efforts
-Public hearings
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-Question of executive privilege
-White House staff members
-Majority and minority counsel
-Committee members
-Dean
-Role as White House counsel
-Possible testimony
-Exercise of privilege
-Colson
-Haldeman
-Hearsay
-Notes
-Diary
-Magruder's date book
-Strachan and Dean
-Haldeman
-Record-keeping
-Strachan
-Campaign records kept for President
-Dean
-Conversations with Haldeman
-TV cameras
-Suggestions for handling
-Timing
-Dean's conversations with Mitchell and Magruder
-Testimony
-Need to be truthful
-Role as White House counsel
-Privilege
-Magruder
-Perjury
-Defense
-Orders from Colson
-Money given to Colson for mailing
-Authorization
-Committee for Kennedy write-in New Hampshire
-Hunt
-Ronald L. Ziegler's concern
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-Testimony
-Charges against Colson regarding Watergate break-in
-Possible explanation of Colson's activities
-Lawrence F. O'Brien's activities
-Howard Hughes
-International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
-Kleindienst
-Schedule
-California

Haldeman left at 1:45 p.m.