About this recording
425–44
- President Richard M. Nixon
- H. R. Haldeman
- John D. Ehrlichman
- Leonard Garment
- White House operator
April 9, 1973
Conversation No. 425-44
Date: April 9, 1973
Time: 2:05 pm - 6:33 p.m.
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Weather
John D. Ehrlichman [?]
John W. Dean, III [?]
White House taping system
-Retention of national security related conversations
-Disposal by Haldeman
-Secret Service Locator
-President's control
-Telephones
-Locations
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Camp David
-Capability of recording phone conversations
-Phone system
-New phone system
-Camp David
-Operation of new system
-Systematic disposal of tapes
Ehrlichman entered at 2:14 pm.
Problems
-Economy
-Watergate
Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Kissinger
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-participation
Economic issues
-Meeting with Ehrlichman
-Pierre Rinfret
-Scheduling
-Arthur F. Burns
-Economic legislation
-Timing
-Herbert Stein, Roy L. Ash, John T. Dunlop, Peter M. Flanigan
-Diversity of opinions
-Laissez-faire
-Controls
-Food prices
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] grain purchases
-Purchase of crate space [?]
-Kissinger
-Effect of uncertainty
-Effect on markets
-Stock market
-Agricultural market
-President's schedule
-George P. Shultz
-Laissez-faire
-Stein's view
-Dunlop's view
Phase III modification
-Consumer Price Index [CPI] level
-Previous meeting with President
-Economists’ predictions
-Rising prices
-Reasons
-USSR grain purchases
-World inflation
-Energy crisis
-International agriculture
-Lumber
-Bulge or delay factors
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Corrections of Phase II
-Tightening capacity
-Forecasts
-Austin H. Kiplinger's view
-Economic boom
-Effect of controls
-Stein
-Shultz
-Hypothetical scenarios
-Politics
-State of Economy
-Prosperity
-Job creation
-Food market
-Forthcoming labor negotiations
-Free markets
-Government interference
-Wages
-Phase III
-Phase IV
-Freedom
-Quotas
-Industry
-Construction
-Health
-Mediation groups
-Productivity committee
-Free Economy compared with controls
-Prosperity
-Potential for rising prices
-Administration’s response
-Congress’ role
-Politics
-Criticism
Watergate
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Richard G. Kleindienst
-Kleindienst's forthcoming testimony
-28-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Executive privilege
-Richard A. Moore
-Executive privilege
-Separation of powers issue
-President's rights
-Exceptions
-Sherman Adams
-Dawson [First name unknown]
-Quote from Dean Acheson
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-President's meeting with Michael J. \"Mike\" Mansfield
-Ervin Committee Hearings
-Ehrlichman
-Executive privilege
-John W. Dean, III
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Televised hearings
-Kissinger
-Hearings at Blair House
-Wrong-doing exception
-Haldeman
-Mansfield's report to Ervin
-Hard lining
-Ehrlichman's negotiations
-Dean
-Haldeman's desire to testify
-Charges
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Dean
-Conversations
-John N. Mitchell
-Jeb S. Magruder
-Desire for subpoena
-Mitchell
-Interest in Dean's grand jury appearance
-Ehrlichman's talk with Leonard Garment
-President's forthcoming contact with Garment
-Dean
-Executive privilege
-29-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Brief by Office of Legal Counsel
-Attorney-client
-Legal problems
-Work product
-Ehrlichman's forthcoming meeting with Ervin
-Dean's role in White House
-Executive privilege
-John N. Mitchell
-Contact with White House
-Moore
-Paul L. O'Brien
-Garment
-Relationship with Garment
-Mitchell's involvement
-Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
-President's forthcoming contact
-White House attitude toward Mitchell
-Possible statement
-Moore
-President
-Moore
-Dean
-Informing President
-Knowledge of whole story
-Ervin Committee
-White House testimony
-President's meeting with Mansfield
-Pace of hearings
-Moore's analysis
-Timing of climax
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Kleindienst's forthcoming testimony
-Role and function of the Senate committee
-Compared to Alger Hiss case
-Newsworthiness
-Executive privilege
-Effects
-Ervin
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Ehrlichman
-Ehrlichman meeting with Ervin
-Negotiations on forthcoming hearings
-Baker
-Procedures
-Charles W. Colson's dinner with unknown man
-Lie Detector Test suggested
-Garment [?]
-David Shapiro
-Mitchell
-View of situation
-Garment's opinion
The President talked with the White House operator at 2:39 p.m.
[Conversation No. 425-44A]
[See Conversation No. 44-112]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Mitchell
-State of mind
-Ervin Committee
-Money given to the Watergate burglars
-Relationship with Dean
-Dean's conversations with Ehrlichman about money
-Requests for Ehrlichman to call Mitchell
-Money
-James W. McCord, Jr.
-William O. Bittman
-Ehrlichman's response
-Cubans' lawyer, Henry B. Rothblatt
-Knowledge
-Money
Leonard Garment entered at 2:43 p.m.
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
Ehrlichman's economic meeting
-Report
-Burns
-Shultz
-Rinfret
-Phase II
-Controls
-Effect on economy
Watergate
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Garment
-Garment's role with Ervin Committee
-Enforcement of ground rules
-Ervin Committee's investigation of campaign activities
-White House
-Haldeman
-Colson
-Concern
-Garment's analysis
-Haldeman's statement
-Negotiation
-Hearsay evidence
-White House strategy
-Executive privilege
-Weicker
-White House cooperation
-Howard Hughes
-Magruder
-Possible testimony
-Mitchell
-Involvement in Watergate
-Dean
-White House involvement in Watergate break-in
-President, Colson, Haldeman
-Ronald L. Ziegler's statement, June 22, 1972, regarding the
break-in
-Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
-Liddy
-32-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Approval of plans
-Vulnerability
-Grand jury
-Need for White House staff to believe
-Magruder
-Dean
-Indictment
-Mitchell
-Magruder
-Knowledge
-White House goal
-Colson
-Haldeman
-Dean
-Possible developments
-White House response
-Mitchell
-Grand jury
-Magruder
Martha Mitchell
The President and Garment left at 3:00 pm.
Date: April 9, 1973
Time: 2:05 pm - 6:33 p.m.
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Weather
John D. Ehrlichman [?]
John W. Dean, III [?]
White House taping system
-Retention of national security related conversations
-Disposal by Haldeman
-Secret Service Locator
-President's control
-Telephones
-Locations
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Camp David
-Capability of recording phone conversations
-Phone system
-New phone system
-Camp David
-Operation of new system
-Systematic disposal of tapes
Ehrlichman entered at 2:14 pm.
Problems
-Economy
-Watergate
Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Kissinger
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-participation
Economic issues
-Meeting with Ehrlichman
-Pierre Rinfret
-Scheduling
-Arthur F. Burns
-Economic legislation
-Timing
-Herbert Stein, Roy L. Ash, John T. Dunlop, Peter M. Flanigan
-Diversity of opinions
-Laissez-faire
-Controls
-Food prices
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] grain purchases
-Purchase of crate space [?]
-Kissinger
-Effect of uncertainty
-Effect on markets
-Stock market
-Agricultural market
-President's schedule
-George P. Shultz
-Laissez-faire
-Stein's view
-Dunlop's view
Phase III modification
-Consumer Price Index [CPI] level
-Previous meeting with President
-Economists’ predictions
-Rising prices
-Reasons
-USSR grain purchases
-World inflation
-Energy crisis
-International agriculture
-Lumber
-Bulge or delay factors
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Corrections of Phase II
-Tightening capacity
-Forecasts
-Austin H. Kiplinger's view
-Economic boom
-Effect of controls
-Stein
-Shultz
-Hypothetical scenarios
-Politics
-State of Economy
-Prosperity
-Job creation
-Food market
-Forthcoming labor negotiations
-Free markets
-Government interference
-Wages
-Phase III
-Phase IV
-Freedom
-Quotas
-Industry
-Construction
-Health
-Mediation groups
-Productivity committee
-Free Economy compared with controls
-Prosperity
-Potential for rising prices
-Administration’s response
-Congress’ role
-Politics
-Criticism
Watergate
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Richard G. Kleindienst
-Kleindienst's forthcoming testimony
-28-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Executive privilege
-Richard A. Moore
-Executive privilege
-Separation of powers issue
-President's rights
-Exceptions
-Sherman Adams
-Dawson [First name unknown]
-Quote from Dean Acheson
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-President's meeting with Michael J. \"Mike\" Mansfield
-Ervin Committee Hearings
-Ehrlichman
-Executive privilege
-John W. Dean, III
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Televised hearings
-Kissinger
-Hearings at Blair House
-Wrong-doing exception
-Haldeman
-Mansfield's report to Ervin
-Hard lining
-Ehrlichman's negotiations
-Dean
-Haldeman's desire to testify
-Charges
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Dean
-Conversations
-John N. Mitchell
-Jeb S. Magruder
-Desire for subpoena
-Mitchell
-Interest in Dean's grand jury appearance
-Ehrlichman's talk with Leonard Garment
-President's forthcoming contact with Garment
-Dean
-Executive privilege
-29-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Brief by Office of Legal Counsel
-Attorney-client
-Legal problems
-Work product
-Ehrlichman's forthcoming meeting with Ervin
-Dean's role in White House
-Executive privilege
-John N. Mitchell
-Contact with White House
-Moore
-Paul L. O'Brien
-Garment
-Relationship with Garment
-Mitchell's involvement
-Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
-President's forthcoming contact
-White House attitude toward Mitchell
-Possible statement
-Moore
-President
-Moore
-Dean
-Informing President
-Knowledge of whole story
-Ervin Committee
-White House testimony
-President's meeting with Mansfield
-Pace of hearings
-Moore's analysis
-Timing of climax
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Kleindienst's forthcoming testimony
-Role and function of the Senate committee
-Compared to Alger Hiss case
-Newsworthiness
-Executive privilege
-Effects
-Ervin
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Ehrlichman
-Ehrlichman meeting with Ervin
-Negotiations on forthcoming hearings
-Baker
-Procedures
-Charles W. Colson's dinner with unknown man
-Lie Detector Test suggested
-Garment [?]
-David Shapiro
-Mitchell
-View of situation
-Garment's opinion
The President talked with the White House operator at 2:39 p.m.
[Conversation No. 425-44A]
[See Conversation No. 44-112]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Mitchell
-State of mind
-Ervin Committee
-Money given to the Watergate burglars
-Relationship with Dean
-Dean's conversations with Ehrlichman about money
-Requests for Ehrlichman to call Mitchell
-Money
-James W. McCord, Jr.
-William O. Bittman
-Ehrlichman's response
-Cubans' lawyer, Henry B. Rothblatt
-Knowledge
-Money
Leonard Garment entered at 2:43 p.m.
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
Ehrlichman's economic meeting
-Report
-Burns
-Shultz
-Rinfret
-Phase II
-Controls
-Effect on economy
Watergate
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Garment
-Garment's role with Ervin Committee
-Enforcement of ground rules
-Ervin Committee's investigation of campaign activities
-White House
-Haldeman
-Colson
-Concern
-Garment's analysis
-Haldeman's statement
-Negotiation
-Hearsay evidence
-White House strategy
-Executive privilege
-Weicker
-White House cooperation
-Howard Hughes
-Magruder
-Possible testimony
-Mitchell
-Involvement in Watergate
-Dean
-White House involvement in Watergate break-in
-President, Colson, Haldeman
-Ronald L. Ziegler's statement, June 22, 1972, regarding the
break-in
-Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
-Liddy
-32-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sep.-2010)
Conversation No. 425-44 (cont’d)
-Approval of plans
-Vulnerability
-Grand jury
-Need for White House staff to believe
-Magruder
-Dean
-Indictment
-Mitchell
-Magruder
-Knowledge
-White House goal
-Colson
-Haldeman
-Dean
-Possible developments
-White House response
-Mitchell
-Grand jury
-Magruder
Martha Mitchell
The President and Garment left at 3:00 pm.