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- President Richard M. Nixon
- John A. "Jack" Mulcahy
- H. R. Haldeman
- Stephen B. Bull
- John B. Connally
- Manolo Sanchez
- William H. Carruthers
March 5, 1971
Conversation No. 462-15
Date: March 5, 1971
Time: 1:17 pm - 2:20 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
Greetings
Evening at the White House, March 16, 1971
-Mulcahy’s arrival
-Mulcahy family
-Schedule
-Daughter
-Kevin Mulcahy
A story about a cemetery
-Henry C. Cashen, II
-Mulcahy
Mulcahy’s tour of duty in Ireland
Mulcahy’s briefing, March 5, 1971
-Peter M. Flanigan [?]
Mulcahy’s previous meeting with Jerry Brown [?]
-A list on union activities
55
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Transmittal to President
Plans for an addition to Afrin [?] Castle
-William P. Rogers’ previous visit
-Location
Possible trip by President to Ireland
Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 29s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
**********************************************************************
Jack McCarthy
-Position
-Coverage of St. Patrick’s Day parade
-Trip from Ireland
-Evening at the White House, March 16, 1971
-Invitation
-Mr. and Mrs. McCarthy’s attendance
-Arthur F. and Helen (Bernstein) Burns’ attendance
-Support for the President
Presidential gifts
-Golf balls, cuff links, and tie clasps for Mulcahy and McCarthy
Mulcahy’s schedule
Mulcahy left at 1:23 pm
Mulcahy
President’s schedule
-Camp David
56
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
-Departure time
-Nelson A. Rockefeller meeting and briefing
-Time
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 1:23 pm
Wrong buzzer Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:25 pm
Mulcahy
-Compared with Robert H. Abplanalp
-Background
A telegram from Charlton Heston
-Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope’s previous conversations with the President
-Receipt
-Haldeman’s instructions to Bruce A. Kehrli
-Kehrli’s effort to locate Heston
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:23 pm
President’s schedule
-John B. Connally
Bull left at an unknown time before 1:25 pm
Telegram from Heston
-A call from Kehrli
-Hope
-White House efforts
-Content of telegram
-Pornography
Connally entered at 1:25 pm
Connally’s press briefing
-Ronald L. Ziegler’s response
Connally’s schedule
-Work at Treasury Department
57
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Social schedule
-Purpose
-Cyrus R. (“C. R.”) Smith, Robert S. Strauss, and Henry H. (“Joe”) Fowler
dinner at the Metropolitan Club
-Andre Meyer [?], Lewellyn A. Jennings, Frank Stanton, Clark M.
Clifford, Hubert H. Humphrey, John D. Harper
-Thomas C. (“Del”) Barger, Gustave L. Levy, Joseph A. Thomas
-Political orientation Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Purpose
-Work at Treasury Department
-National security work
-The President’s view
-Purposes
US foreign policy
-Middle East
**********************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 1s ]
MIDDLE EAST
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
**********************************************************************
-World War II
-”Operation Overlord”
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Omaha Beach
-Vietnam
-US military forces
-General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-Connally’s possible public comments
58
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-President’s possible actions
-President’s March 4, 1971 press conference
-Outcome of war
-Possible Connally conversations
-Possible US military actions
-Reasons
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Vietnamese elections Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-US strategy
-Critics
-Polls
-Laos (Lam Son)
-President’s position
-US strategy
-Outcome
-President’s advisors
-Connally’s role
-Kissinger
-Rogers
Economic policy
-Connally’s role
-Charls E. Walker’s role
-Connally’s work at Treasury Department
-Paul W. McCracken
-Burns
-Knowledge
-Personnel at Treasury Department
-Walker
-Paul A. Volcker
-Walker
-James E. Smith
-Staff
-Need for additional staff
-Frederic V. Malek’s role
Economic policy
-Statements to “New York crowd”
-Confidence
-Compared to foreign policy statements
-Stock market
-Trend
-Interest rates
59
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Connally’s statements to Burns
-President’s response
-Banker’s response
-Burns
-George P. Shultz’s role
-Connally’s role
-The President’s handling
-Quadriad meetings Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Leaks to press
-Relations with Congress
-Humphrey
-Federal Reserve Board
-President
-Connally
-Quadriad meeting, March 5, 1971
-Bonds
-Interest rates
-Burn’s forthcoming Congressional testimony
-Response
-Effect on banks
-Tax payments
-Disposition
-Connally’s view
-Time deposits
-Response
-Interest rates
-Burns
-Connally
-Banks
-Long-term
-Connally’s finances as an example
-Ranch
-Loan
-Interest rate
-Discussions with bankers
-Decreases in interest rates
-Loans
-Banks
-Money supply
-Interest rates
-Administration policy
-Short-term
60
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Prime rate
-Connally’s discussion with Jake Jacobson
-Lyndon B. Johnson administration work
-Jacobson’s bank
-Loans
-Number
-Rates
-President’s position Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Administration policy
-Rates
-Connally’s check of other banks
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo’s bank
-Average citizen
-Trends in economy
-Unemployment figures
-Stock market levels
-Increases
-Confidence
-Burns’ view
-Other economists’ views
-Shultz
-McCracken
-Connally’s view
-Rate of economic growth
-Unemployment decrease
-President’s budget
-Corporate taxes and profits
-Unemployment
-Federal revenue
-Comments to press
-Press view
Connally’s schedule
-New York trip
-Transportation
-Rockefeller
-Albany, New York City
-John T. Logan
Connally left at 1:50 pm
Connally
61
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Future
-Work at Treasury Department
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:50 pm
Refreshment order
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:05 pm Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
Burns
-Quadriad meeting, March 5, 1971
-President’s statements
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 1:50 pm
Sanchez’s schedule
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 2:05 pm
President’s schedule
-Cancellation of Rochester trip
-Possible problems
-J. Edgar Hoover
President’s March 4, 1971 press conference
-Charles W. Colson
-Calls
-Senate
-Possible public response
-Cambodia issue
-Press
-Ziegler
-Washington Post, New York Times
-President’s response
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-President’s response to a question
-Tone
-Content
-Coverage
Vietnam
-News coverage
62
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Public opinion
-Effect
-Editorials
-Tchepone battle
-Coverage
-Possible outcome
-Kissinger
-Troops Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-National Security Council [NSC] meeting, March 5, 1971
-US military action
-The President’s instructions
-Bombing
-Reasons
President’s press conferences
-Preparation
-Results
-Importance
-Possible office press conferences
-William H. Carruthers
-Meeting with President
[The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:05
pm]
[Conversation No. 462-15A]
President’s schedule
-Carruthers
[End of telephone conversation]
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 1:50 pm
President’s schedule
-Carruthers
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 2:05 pm
[Unintelligible]
An unknown man
63
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Polls
-An analysis
-Vietnam War
-George H. Gallup poll
-Questions
-Laos (Lam Son)
-Compared with White House poll and another
Conv.
pollNo. 462-15 (cont.)
-Results
-Compared with previous Opinion Research Corporation [ORC] poll
-Chilton, ORC
-Compared with previous polls
-Chilton
Carruthers entered at 2:05 pm
President’s future press conferences
-Oval Office
-Camera coverage
-Carruthers’ view
-Seating options
-Camera locations
-President’s and press positions
-Camera positioning
-President’s and press positions
-Briefing room
-Oval Office
-President’s view
-Lighting
-Types of cameras
-President’s and press positions
-Camera positions
-History
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Camera positioning
-Coverage
-Lighting
-Blue Room
-Lighting
-Briefing room
-Blue Room
-Radio simulcast
64
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Old Executive Office Building [EOB] office
-Radio coverage
-Capacity
-Radio coverage
-Locations
-Radio, film considerations
-Pool coverage
-Types of cameras Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Oval Office
-Atmosphere
-Photo coverage
-Atmosphere
-Photo coverage
-Lighting
-Set-up time
-Lead-time
-Scenario
-Costs
-Photo coverage
President’s schedule
-Rockefeller meeting
-Location
President’s future press conferences
-Carruthers’ work
-Make-up
-Importance
-President’s preparation
-Importance
-Time needed
-Importance
President’s March 4, 1971 press conference
-Carruthers’ response
-Ziegler
-Press response
-Compared to the Vice President’s comments
-President’s preparation
-President’s statement to audience
-Effect
65
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
President’s schedule
-Rockefeller
Carruthers’ schedule
Haldeman and Carruthers left at 2:20 pm
Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
Date: March 5, 1971
Time: 1:17 pm - 2:20 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
Greetings
Evening at the White House, March 16, 1971
-Mulcahy’s arrival
-Mulcahy family
-Schedule
-Daughter
-Kevin Mulcahy
A story about a cemetery
-Henry C. Cashen, II
-Mulcahy
Mulcahy’s tour of duty in Ireland
Mulcahy’s briefing, March 5, 1971
-Peter M. Flanigan [?]
Mulcahy’s previous meeting with Jerry Brown [?]
-A list on union activities
55
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Transmittal to President
Plans for an addition to Afrin [?] Castle
-William P. Rogers’ previous visit
-Location
Possible trip by President to Ireland
Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
**********************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 29s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
**********************************************************************
Jack McCarthy
-Position
-Coverage of St. Patrick’s Day parade
-Trip from Ireland
-Evening at the White House, March 16, 1971
-Invitation
-Mr. and Mrs. McCarthy’s attendance
-Arthur F. and Helen (Bernstein) Burns’ attendance
-Support for the President
Presidential gifts
-Golf balls, cuff links, and tie clasps for Mulcahy and McCarthy
Mulcahy’s schedule
Mulcahy left at 1:23 pm
Mulcahy
President’s schedule
-Camp David
56
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
-Departure time
-Nelson A. Rockefeller meeting and briefing
-Time
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 1:23 pm
Wrong buzzer Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:25 pm
Mulcahy
-Compared with Robert H. Abplanalp
-Background
A telegram from Charlton Heston
-Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope’s previous conversations with the President
-Receipt
-Haldeman’s instructions to Bruce A. Kehrli
-Kehrli’s effort to locate Heston
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:23 pm
President’s schedule
-John B. Connally
Bull left at an unknown time before 1:25 pm
Telegram from Heston
-A call from Kehrli
-Hope
-White House efforts
-Content of telegram
-Pornography
Connally entered at 1:25 pm
Connally’s press briefing
-Ronald L. Ziegler’s response
Connally’s schedule
-Work at Treasury Department
57
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Social schedule
-Purpose
-Cyrus R. (“C. R.”) Smith, Robert S. Strauss, and Henry H. (“Joe”) Fowler
dinner at the Metropolitan Club
-Andre Meyer [?], Lewellyn A. Jennings, Frank Stanton, Clark M.
Clifford, Hubert H. Humphrey, John D. Harper
-Thomas C. (“Del”) Barger, Gustave L. Levy, Joseph A. Thomas
-Political orientation Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Purpose
-Work at Treasury Department
-National security work
-The President’s view
-Purposes
US foreign policy
-Middle East
**********************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 1s ]
MIDDLE EAST
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
**********************************************************************
-World War II
-”Operation Overlord”
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Omaha Beach
-Vietnam
-US military forces
-General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
-Connally’s possible public comments
58
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-President’s possible actions
-President’s March 4, 1971 press conference
-Outcome of war
-Possible Connally conversations
-Possible US military actions
-Reasons
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Vietnamese elections Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-US strategy
-Critics
-Polls
-Laos (Lam Son)
-President’s position
-US strategy
-Outcome
-President’s advisors
-Connally’s role
-Kissinger
-Rogers
Economic policy
-Connally’s role
-Charls E. Walker’s role
-Connally’s work at Treasury Department
-Paul W. McCracken
-Burns
-Knowledge
-Personnel at Treasury Department
-Walker
-Paul A. Volcker
-Walker
-James E. Smith
-Staff
-Need for additional staff
-Frederic V. Malek’s role
Economic policy
-Statements to “New York crowd”
-Confidence
-Compared to foreign policy statements
-Stock market
-Trend
-Interest rates
59
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Connally’s statements to Burns
-President’s response
-Banker’s response
-Burns
-George P. Shultz’s role
-Connally’s role
-The President’s handling
-Quadriad meetings Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Leaks to press
-Relations with Congress
-Humphrey
-Federal Reserve Board
-President
-Connally
-Quadriad meeting, March 5, 1971
-Bonds
-Interest rates
-Burn’s forthcoming Congressional testimony
-Response
-Effect on banks
-Tax payments
-Disposition
-Connally’s view
-Time deposits
-Response
-Interest rates
-Burns
-Connally
-Banks
-Long-term
-Connally’s finances as an example
-Ranch
-Loan
-Interest rate
-Discussions with bankers
-Decreases in interest rates
-Loans
-Banks
-Money supply
-Interest rates
-Administration policy
-Short-term
60
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Prime rate
-Connally’s discussion with Jake Jacobson
-Lyndon B. Johnson administration work
-Jacobson’s bank
-Loans
-Number
-Rates
-President’s position Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Administration policy
-Rates
-Connally’s check of other banks
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo’s bank
-Average citizen
-Trends in economy
-Unemployment figures
-Stock market levels
-Increases
-Confidence
-Burns’ view
-Other economists’ views
-Shultz
-McCracken
-Connally’s view
-Rate of economic growth
-Unemployment decrease
-President’s budget
-Corporate taxes and profits
-Unemployment
-Federal revenue
-Comments to press
-Press view
Connally’s schedule
-New York trip
-Transportation
-Rockefeller
-Albany, New York City
-John T. Logan
Connally left at 1:50 pm
Connally
61
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Future
-Work at Treasury Department
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:50 pm
Refreshment order
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:05 pm Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
Burns
-Quadriad meeting, March 5, 1971
-President’s statements
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 1:50 pm
Sanchez’s schedule
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 2:05 pm
President’s schedule
-Cancellation of Rochester trip
-Possible problems
-J. Edgar Hoover
President’s March 4, 1971 press conference
-Charles W. Colson
-Calls
-Senate
-Possible public response
-Cambodia issue
-Press
-Ziegler
-Washington Post, New York Times
-President’s response
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-President’s response to a question
-Tone
-Content
-Coverage
Vietnam
-News coverage
62
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Public opinion
-Effect
-Editorials
-Tchepone battle
-Coverage
-Possible outcome
-Kissinger
-Troops Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-National Security Council [NSC] meeting, March 5, 1971
-US military action
-The President’s instructions
-Bombing
-Reasons
President’s press conferences
-Preparation
-Results
-Importance
-Possible office press conferences
-William H. Carruthers
-Meeting with President
[The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:05
pm]
[Conversation No. 462-15A]
President’s schedule
-Carruthers
[End of telephone conversation]
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 1:50 pm
President’s schedule
-Carruthers
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 2:05 pm
[Unintelligible]
An unknown man
63
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Polls
-An analysis
-Vietnam War
-George H. Gallup poll
-Questions
-Laos (Lam Son)
-Compared with White House poll and another
Conv.
pollNo. 462-15 (cont.)
-Results
-Compared with previous Opinion Research Corporation [ORC] poll
-Chilton, ORC
-Compared with previous polls
-Chilton
Carruthers entered at 2:05 pm
President’s future press conferences
-Oval Office
-Camera coverage
-Carruthers’ view
-Seating options
-Camera locations
-President’s and press positions
-Camera positioning
-President’s and press positions
-Briefing room
-Oval Office
-President’s view
-Lighting
-Types of cameras
-President’s and press positions
-Camera positions
-History
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Camera positioning
-Coverage
-Lighting
-Blue Room
-Lighting
-Briefing room
-Blue Room
-Radio simulcast
64
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Old Executive Office Building [EOB] office
-Radio coverage
-Capacity
-Radio coverage
-Locations
-Radio, film considerations
-Pool coverage
-Types of cameras Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)
-Oval Office
-Atmosphere
-Photo coverage
-Atmosphere
-Photo coverage
-Lighting
-Set-up time
-Lead-time
-Scenario
-Costs
-Photo coverage
President’s schedule
-Rockefeller meeting
-Location
President’s future press conferences
-Carruthers’ work
-Make-up
-Importance
-President’s preparation
-Importance
-Time needed
-Importance
President’s March 4, 1971 press conference
-Carruthers’ response
-Ziegler
-Press response
-Compared to the Vice President’s comments
-President’s preparation
-President’s statement to audience
-Effect
65
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
President’s schedule
-Rockefeller
Carruthers’ schedule
Haldeman and Carruthers left at 2:20 pm
Conv. No. 462-15 (cont.)