463–1

Conversation No. 463-1

Date: March 8, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:10 pm and 1:13 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Frederic V. Malek, Daniel T. Kingsley, Bill Horton, and H. R. (“Bob”)
Haldeman
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Personnel
-Public information officers
-Departments
-Compared with White House
-Need for improvements
-Need for qualified personnel


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-Kenneth E. BeLieu
-Congressional relations
-Undersecretary of the Army
-Herbert G. Klein’s office
-Paul W. Costello
-John E. Nidecker
-Possible position
-Congressional liaison office
-William E. Timmons
-Communications office
-Changes
-Klein
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-Ronald L. Ziegler’s office
-Changes
-J. Bruce Whelihan
-Needs
-Changes
-Recommendations from Cabinet officers
-Types
-Walter J. Hickel Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-Employees at the Department of Interior
-Departments
-White House staff
-President’s position
-Importance of public relations
-Ziegler’s office
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Office
-Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-Needs
-Correspondence section
-Compared with State Department
-Noble Melencamp
-Price
-Needs
-President’s position
-Communications offices
-Ziegler
-Needs
-Research
-Price’s office
-Mail
-Richard K. Cook
-Needs
-Congressional liaison office
-Importance
-Needs
-Role
-Importance
-Clark MacGregor
-Timmons
-Other staff
-Eugene S. Cowen
-Cook
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-Thomas C. Korologos
-Cook
-Cowen
-Independent agencies
-Malek’s responsibilities
-White House coordination
-Needs
-Civil Aeronautics Board [CAB] Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-Secor D. Browne
-Needs
-President’s position
-Securities and Exchange Commission [SEC]
-William J. Casey
-Types
-Young men
-Chief executive officers
-Retired military officers
-Value
-Charles D. (“Tex”) Thornton
-Possible Atomic Energy Commission [AEC] chairman
-Glenn T. Seaborg
-Possible conflict of interest
-John B. Connally
-White House staff response to appointment
-Reasons for appointment
-Types needed
-Malek’s philosophy
-President’s view
-Arthur G. (“Art”) Linkletter
-Possible ambassadorship
-Australia
-Types needed
-Youth
-Harvard School of Business
-Stanford
-Qualities
-President’s view
-Donald W. Riegle, Jr. and Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
-Qualities
-Difference from corporate world
-Qualities
-Salaries
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-Malek’s efforts
-Cabinet officers
-Qualities
-Elliott L. Richardson
-Future
-Connally
-John N. Mitchell
-Melvin R. Laird Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-William P. Rogers
-John A. Volpe and George W. Romney
-Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
-Future
-Performance
-Clifford M. Hardin
-Cabinet Undersecretaries


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-Defense Department
-David Packard
-Transportation Department
-Department of State
-John N. Irwin, II
-Rogers
-Department of Commerce
-Rocco C. Siciliano
-James T. Lynn
-Dr. James R. Schlesinger
-Laird
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Changes
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-Deputy Assistant Secretaries
-Salaries
-Importance
-Changes
-Cabinet and subcabinet officers
-Removal list
-Rate
-Hollis M. Dole Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-Possible position
-Alain C. Enthoven
-George [Surname unknown]
-Conversation with Thornton
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Resignation
-Malek’s work
-John W. Barnum
-New York law firm salary
-A new Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at Department of Health,
Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Boise-Cascade salary
-A new Assistant Secretary for Administration at Interior Department
-Law firm salary
-A new Assistant Secretary for Administration at HEW
-Salary as vice president of Hughes Tool
-A new Assistant Secretary for Management at Environmental Protection
Agency [EPA]?
-Salary at Evans Broadcasting
-Political appointments
-Possible problems of patronage
-Salaries
-General Schedule [GS] grades
-Presidential appointments
-Super grades
-Office of Intergovernmental Relations
-Nils A. Boe
-Future
-Mitchell
-Problems
-Vice President’s office
-Office of Intergovernmental Relations
-Boe
-Edward L. Morgan
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-Problems
-Women appointees in government
-Administration’s record
-Qualifications
-Importance
-Compared with black appointees
-Concerns of women voters
-Value Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-Patricia R. Hitt
-President’s view
-Presidential commissions and boards
-Jayne B. Spain
-Litton Industries, Stuart Robbins division
-Support for the President
-Vice Chairman of Civil Service Commission
-Black appointees
-Importance
-Women appointees
-Requirements
-Political value
-Helen D. Bentley of Maritime Commission
-Performance


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-Importance
-Requirements
-Compared with black appointees
-Compared with other ethnic appointees
-Mexican-Americans
-Italian-Americans
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-Black appointees
-A Military Appeals Court judgeship
-The President’s instructions
-Women appointees
-Spain
-Cabinet officers
-Oveta Culp Hobby
-Spain Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-Black appointees
-Possible Civil Service Commission job
-[Name unintelligible]
-Possible Defense Department job
-Possible Civil Service Commission job
-Possible black appointee
-Robert E. Hampton
-Possible black or women appointee
-Black appointees
-Military Appeals Court judgeship
-Timing of announcement
-President’s instructions to John D. Ehrlichman
-Homer Ferguson’s recommendation
-Interior Department
-Schlesinger’s efforts
-Needs
-Transportation Department
-Changes
-Andy Salom [?]
-Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
-Agriculture Department
-State Department
-Appointments
-Rogers
-Agencies
-General Counsels at SEC, Federal Trade Commission, Federal
Communications Commission, Federal Elections Commission, Interstate
Commerce Commission
-Importance
-Richard G. Kleindienst and Mitchell
-Justice Department, judgeships, US Attorneys
-Vice President’s office
-Office of Intergovernmental Relations
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
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-Problems
-Government compared with private industry
-Republican and Democrat administration records
-Appointees
-Civil Service system
-Needs
-Problems
-Recruitment Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-Bureaucracy
-Malek’s efforts
-Training
-Job changes
-Loyalty
-White House
-Program plans
-Training
-Recognition programs
-Defense Department appointees
-President’s acquaintance
-Possible meetings with President
-Loyalty
-Benefits
-Political leanings
-President’s position
-Harry S. Flemming
-Importance
-Loyalty
-President’s position
-Conservative Democrats
-David Rockefeller
-Connally
-President’s instructions to Malek
-Importance
-Connally
-John G. Tower
-Importance
-Background
-Enthoven
-Scientific area
-Dr. Lee A. DuBridge
-Dr. Edward E. David
-DuBridge
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-Dr. Murray Gell-Mann
-Antiballistic missiles [ABMs]
-Multiple Independently-Targeted Reentry Vehicles [MIRVs]
-Malek, Kingsley, and Horton’s work
-President’s appreciation
-Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
-Employees
-Ann Whitman Conv. No. 463-1 (cont.)
-James C. Hagerty
-General Andrew J. Goodpaster
-Robert Cutler
-Sherman Adams

Presidential gifts
-Cufflinks
-Golf balls
-Gifts for wives

Malek, Kingsley, and Horton’s work

Malek, Kingsley, and Horton left at 1:08 pm

Malek, Kingsley, and Horton
-Work efforts
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Work
-Flemming

Manolo Sanchez and General Walter R. Tkach entered at 1:09 pm


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The President, et al. left at an unknown time before 1:13 pm