466–15

Conversation No. 466-15

Date: March 11, 1971
Time: 5:18 pm - 6:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

Ronald L. Ziegler met with Frances Lewine, Helen A. Thomas, Sarah Booth Conroy, Betty
Beale, Wauhillau LaHay, Claire Crawford, Louise Hutchinson, Marya McLaughlin, and Fay G.
Wells

[General conversation]

Seating

The President entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

Greetings

Fire in fireplace
-President’s previous meeting with Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] executives
-Frank Stanton
-Recollection of meeting with chairman of United States Information Agency
advisory board
-Fireplaces in White House
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

Refreshment orders

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm

Coffee
-Sanchez’s ability
-President and Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s preferences
-Special blend

The White House photographer entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

Photo arrangements

The photographer left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm
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Coffee
-Mrs. Nixon’s preferences
-Special blend and equipment

Tea
-Americans’ ability to make tea

Diet Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
-President
-Compared with men in public life
-Women
-Cholesterol
-Importance
-Dwight D. Eisenhower’s heart attack
-President’s doctor’s advice
-Eggs
-Low-fat diet
-President’s food preferences
-President’s mother’s cooking
-Mrs. Nixon’s cooking
-Head of State dinners

Mrs. Nixon
-Stamina
-Weight
-At first meeting
-Currently
-Dress size
-President’s purchases in Hong Kong and Paris
-Appearance
-Food preferences

President
-Food preferences
-Today’s schedule
-Meeting with John B. Connally and George P. Shultz
-Williamsburg appearance
-Lunch
-Sanchez
-Connally’s comment
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Mrs. Nixon
-Appearance
-Stamina
-Public activities
-Health
-Compared with President’s
-Schedule
-Stamina Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
-Early life
-Family
-College
-Effect
-Family

Advice to youth

Mrs. Nixon
-Influence on household
-Influence on Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon
-Influence of early life

President
-Goals for daughters
-Law school experience
-Work in library at Duke University
-Effect
-A quote by Mrs. Nixon
-Family
-Edward C. Nixon
-President’s father and mother
-Time with daughters

Mrs. Nixon as First Lady
-Compared with Nixon as President
-Interest in privacy
-Beach at San Clemente
-Window shopping in New York
-[Name unintelligible]
-Opportunities of position
-Meeting people
-Receiving lines
-Volunteer activities
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-Trips
-Peru
-With President
-1953 trip
-Asia
-Children’s homes
-Hospitals
-As hostess of White House Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
-Role
-Travel
-Press reports
-Effect abroad
-Effect of 1953 trip

Changes between 1960 and 1968
-Wisdom of age
-President’s time spent with Cox and J. N. Eisenhower

J. N. Eisenhower
-Activities

Cox
-Public events
-CBS tour of White House
-Campaign appearances

Daughters
-Similarities and differences
-Similarities to grandparents
-Similarities to President and Mrs. Nixon

Mrs. Nixon
-Birthday gift
-Birthday celebration date
-Nickname
-Family background
-Given name
-Birth date
-Father
-Nickname for Mrs. Nixon
-Mother’s death
-Name
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-Birth date, day of celebration
-March 16, 1971 party
-March 17, 1971 Head of State dinner
-Ireland
-Entertainment
-Time with President
-Camp David
-President’s schedule Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
-Bowling
-Walking
-Florida and California
-Walking
-Golf
-Camp David and Florida
-Family friends
-Personal friends
-Roger E. Johnson
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Robert H. Abplanalp
-Consultation with President

Women’s liberation
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II

World leaders and wives
-President’s State Department briefing books
-Biographical sketches
-Importance of wives
-Public compared with private influence
-Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
-Yvonne (Vendroux) de Gaulle’s influence on policy
-[Anna] Eleanor Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt
-President’s wartime experience
-E. Roosevelt’s visit to Tontoua base in New Caledonia
-President’s impression
-Lou (Henry) Hoover
-President’s previous meeting
-President’s membership on board of Whittier College
-Compared with Herbert C. Hoover
-Bess (Wallace) Truman
-President’s previous visit with the Trumans
-Truman piano
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-Influence on Harry S Truman
-Mamie G. D. Eisenhower
-Compared with D. D. Eisenhower
-President’s form of address of Eisenhowers
-Formality

Family’s influence on President
-Mrs. Nixon and daughters Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
-Role
-Compared with White House staff as critics

Press influence on President
-President’s view
-Daniel L. Schorr story on Anti-ballistic Missile [ABM]
-Inaccuracy
-CBS
-National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
-American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
-Schorr’s story on ABM
-President’s attitude

Lyndon B. Johnson and John F. Kennedy and wives

Children in White House
-Mrs. Nixon
-Sensitivity
-Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy [Onassis] and children’s visit to White House
-Thomas’ story
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
-President’s form of address
-Kennedy children
-President, Mrs. Nixon, J. N. Eisenhower, and Cox

Mrs. Nixon

Family dogs
-King Timahoe, Pasha, Daisy
-King
-Sanchez
-Limitations
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First Ladies
-Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
-E. Roosevelt, L. Hoover, B. Truman, M. G. D. Eisenhower, C. A. Johnson, J. L. B.
Kennedy, Mrs. Nixon
-Influence on husbands

Y. de Gaulle
Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
C. A. Johnson
-Beautification work

Mrs. Nixon
-Travels abroad
-Volunteer activities
-A dinner, March 18, 1971

C. A. Johnson
-Beautification work

First Ladies
-Impact on President
-L. Hoover, E. Roosevelt, B. Truman
-Impact on husbands
-Role

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

[Unintelligible]

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm
First Ladies
-Influence of wives
-[J. L. B.?] Kennedy

Mrs. Nixon
-Privacy
-Fondness for water
-Privacy
-Walks on beach in California
-Appearance
-Compared with President
-Privacy
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-New York and California

Life in White House
-Mrs. Nixon, J. N. Eisenhower, Cox
-President
-President’s view
-Work
-Needs Conv. No. 466-15 (cont.)
-Time to read and think
-A recommendation to Congress
-President’s trip to Williamsburg
-Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt
-Time for leisure activities
-Congressmen and politicians

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm

President’s schedule

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 6:17 pm

President
-Nomination as Vice President
-Ambitions in Congress for President
-Response to D. D. Eisenhower’s nomination
-Thomas E. Dewey

Mrs. Nixon
-Positions on issues
-Public comments
-Compared with J. N. Eisenhower and Cox
-Compared with President’s positions
-Discussions with President

[General conversation]

President’s morning habits

Refreshments

Lewine, et al. left at 6:17 pm
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