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472–11
- President Richard M. Nixon
- John D. Ehrlichman
- George P. Shultz
- Henry A. Kissinger
March 23, 1971
Conversation No. 472-11
Date: March 23, 1971
Time: 12:16 pm - 1:07 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman
George P. Shultz’s location
Election reform
-Robert J. Dole
-President’s statement
-Ehrlichman’s assessment
-Hugh Scott
-Congressional hearings
-Marlow W. Cook
-Congressional hearings
-Administration position
20
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Constitutional issues
-Justice Department
Interior Department
-Appointment of Under secretary
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Dr. James R. Schlesinger
-Shultz Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Morton’s conversation with Ehrlichman
-William T. Pecora
-Norbert Tiemann from Nebraska
-Roman L. Hruska
-Tiemann
-Needs for Under secretary
-President’s view
-Pecora
-Tiemann
Shultz entered at 12:18 pm
Economy and construction industry
-March 25, 1971 meeting of James D. Hodgson’s commission
-Proposal
-Wage Board
-Operations
-Effect
-Davis-Bacon Act
-Options
-Shultz’s view
-Wage increases
-Hardhats
Army Corps of Engineers
-David Packard
-Reorganization
-Water and natural resources
-Defense Department
-Roles
-Packard
-Melvin R. Laird
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] staff
-Possible compromise
21
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Department of the Interior
-Laird
-Possible actions in Congress
-Defense Department
-President’s view
-Bureau of Reclamation
-President’s view
-Department of Natural Resources Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Bureau of Reclamation’s position
Abortion
-Laird
-Dr. Louis M. Rousselot
-A press conference response
-Abortions in military hospitals
-Department of Defense policy
-Roman Catholic response
-State legislature actions
-Laird’s staff
-White House staff
-Laird’s conversations with Terence Cardinal Cook and unnamed Cardinals
-Charles W. Colson’s conversation with Cardinal Cook
-President’s view
-Ehrlichman’s instructions
-Laird’s response
-President’s possible actions
-Letter from the President to Laird
-President’s convictions
-President’s policy
-Previous statements
Welfare reform bill
-Congressional action
-Amount of aid
-Food stamps
-State and federal programs
-Amount of aid
-Effect on budget
-Food stamps
-State and federal programs
-Labor Department role
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Work requirement
-President’s view
-Funding
-OMB work with Congress
-Transition period
-Time frame
-Work requirement
-Possible letter from President Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Manpower
-Public service employment bill
-Possible Administration compromise
-Special revenue sharing
-Shultz’s view
-Public service employment bill
-Possible compromise
-Shultz’s role
-Presidential authority
Government reorganization
-Department of Natural Resources
-President’s view
-Congressional committee
-Previous Republican leadership meeting with the President
-Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick
-Arnold R. Weber’s role
-Briefing
-President’s view
Revenue sharing
-Forthcoming message to Congress
-Meeting of working group
-President’s schedule
-Special revenue sharing meeting
-Work of working group
-President’s appreciation
-Meeting of working group
-Attendees
-President’s view
-Location
-Number of attendees
-The President
23
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Pamphlets
-Preparation
-Distribution
-Stephen B. Bull
-Subjects
-Distribution
-Congressmen
-Edwin D. Etherington, Donald McI. Kendall Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
Milk prices
-March 24, 1971 meeting
-John B. Connally
-Upcoming Congressional action
-Connally, Clifford M. Hardin, Ehrlichman, John C. Whitaker, Donald B. Rice
-Meeting with the President
-Deadline
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm
President’s schedule
-Mayors
-Etherington
-James L. Buckley
-Mayors
-Length of meeting
-John V. Lindsay
-Buckley
-Meeting with Connally, Hardin, Whitaker, Ehrlichman, and Rice
-Date and time
-Follow-up
-President’s conversations with Connally and Hardin
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 1:07 pm
Public works project
-Ehrlichman’s previous conversation with the President
-House Public Works Committee
-Public broadcasting
-Position of Republicans
-Possible veto of bill by President
-Environmental impact
-White House position
24
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Airlines
George W. Romney group’s meeting, March 22, 1971
-Ehrlichman’s attendance
-Further meeting
-Unions, business
-Possible freeze on prices and wages in construction
-Executive order Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Wage raises
-Arthur F. Burns
-Enforcement
-Department of Labor or Commerce
-A wage and price board
-Extension to longshoremen and other industries
-Steel
-Deadline
-John A. Volpe
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Attendees
-Volpe, Romney, Maurice H. Stans, Hardin, Winton M. (“Red”) Blount, Burns,
and Paul W. McCracken
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Stans
-Stans’ position
-Romney, Volpe
Burns
-Wage-Price Stabilization Board
-Call to Ehrlichman
-Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak column
-Taxes, Vance Hartke
-Support for President
-President’s meeting
-Statements on taxes
-Upcoming meeting with Shultz
-Relations with Connally, President
-Positions on investment tax policy
-Meeting with President
-Statements by Burns
-Economic policy discussion
-Wages and prices
Henry A. Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm
25
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
President and Kissinger’s schedules
Kissinger left at an unknown time before 1:07 pm
Burns
-Meeting with President
-White House staff
-McCracken, Shultz Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Wage-Price Stabilization Board
Wage-Price Stabilization Board
-Possibility for success
-President’s view
-Prices
-Future
-Shultz’s view
-President’s view
-Price increases
Davis-Bacon Act
-Administration’s position
-Burns’ possible response
-Shultz’s upcoming meeting with Burns
-Business community’s position
-Burns
Wage-Price Stabilization Board
Parity
-Burns
-Connally
-Burns’s position
-Blount’s question
-Construction industry
-Burns
-Scope
-Possible Executive Order
-Possibility of success
-Shultz’s position
-Ehrlichman’s view
-President’s position
-President’s policies
-Steel workers
26
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Dates of operation
-Cause and effect
-Steel industry
-Effect of possible strike
-McCracken’s position
-Construction industry
-History
-Timing Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-1972
Economy
-President’s talk with Connally
-Dow-Jones average
-Federal budget
-Goal
-First quarter of 1971 figures
-Direction
-Second half of 1971
-President’s view
-Steel
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-Direction
-Inflation
-Unemployment
-President’s position
-Last quarter of 1971
-President’s position
-Economists
-Direction
-Dow-Jones average
-1972 actions
-Money supply
-Burns
-Federal budget
-Shultz’s view
-Monetary policy
-Effects
-Future
-Otto Eckstein’s position
-Gross National Product [GNP] forecast
-Compared with Shultz’s forecast
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Stock market
-Etherington
-American Stock Exchange
-Effect on economy
-President’s view
-Profits
-Arthur B. Laffer’s model
-Institutional investors Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Peter Winant [?]
-Ehrlichman’s conversation
-Expectations for 1972, 1971
Shultz’s schedule
-Burns
Government reorganization
-Department of Transportation
-Volpe’s response
-Federal Aviation Administration [FAA] head
-Volpe
-Possible meeting with President
-Shultz, Ehrlichman
-Position on Supersonic Transport [SST] control
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-Department of Agriculture
-Hardin
-Extension service
-Possible compromise
-Volpe’s position
SST
-Upcoming Senate vote
-Tally
-Thornton A. (“T”) Wilson of Boeing
-Previous conversation with Shultz
-President’s position
-President’s position
-House leaders
-Gerald R. Ford, Scott
-Position on SST, rapid transit
-Labor’s position
-Kenneth E. BeLieu
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-[Name unintelligible]
-George Meany
-Forthcoming call from Shultz
-Jobs
-US position in world
-Andrew Biemiller
-Location
-BeLieu Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
Shultz’s meeting with Burns
-Wage-Price board
Ehrlichman and Shultz left at 1:07 pm
Date: March 23, 1971
Time: 12:16 pm - 1:07 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman
George P. Shultz’s location
Election reform
-Robert J. Dole
-President’s statement
-Ehrlichman’s assessment
-Hugh Scott
-Congressional hearings
-Marlow W. Cook
-Congressional hearings
-Administration position
20
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Constitutional issues
-Justice Department
Interior Department
-Appointment of Under secretary
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Dr. James R. Schlesinger
-Shultz Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Morton’s conversation with Ehrlichman
-William T. Pecora
-Norbert Tiemann from Nebraska
-Roman L. Hruska
-Tiemann
-Needs for Under secretary
-President’s view
-Pecora
-Tiemann
Shultz entered at 12:18 pm
Economy and construction industry
-March 25, 1971 meeting of James D. Hodgson’s commission
-Proposal
-Wage Board
-Operations
-Effect
-Davis-Bacon Act
-Options
-Shultz’s view
-Wage increases
-Hardhats
Army Corps of Engineers
-David Packard
-Reorganization
-Water and natural resources
-Defense Department
-Roles
-Packard
-Melvin R. Laird
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] staff
-Possible compromise
21
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Department of the Interior
-Laird
-Possible actions in Congress
-Defense Department
-President’s view
-Bureau of Reclamation
-President’s view
-Department of Natural Resources Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Bureau of Reclamation’s position
Abortion
-Laird
-Dr. Louis M. Rousselot
-A press conference response
-Abortions in military hospitals
-Department of Defense policy
-Roman Catholic response
-State legislature actions
-Laird’s staff
-White House staff
-Laird’s conversations with Terence Cardinal Cook and unnamed Cardinals
-Charles W. Colson’s conversation with Cardinal Cook
-President’s view
-Ehrlichman’s instructions
-Laird’s response
-President’s possible actions
-Letter from the President to Laird
-President’s convictions
-President’s policy
-Previous statements
Welfare reform bill
-Congressional action
-Amount of aid
-Food stamps
-State and federal programs
-Amount of aid
-Effect on budget
-Food stamps
-State and federal programs
-Labor Department role
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Work requirement
-President’s view
-Funding
-OMB work with Congress
-Transition period
-Time frame
-Work requirement
-Possible letter from President Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Manpower
-Public service employment bill
-Possible Administration compromise
-Special revenue sharing
-Shultz’s view
-Public service employment bill
-Possible compromise
-Shultz’s role
-Presidential authority
Government reorganization
-Department of Natural Resources
-President’s view
-Congressional committee
-Previous Republican leadership meeting with the President
-Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick
-Arnold R. Weber’s role
-Briefing
-President’s view
Revenue sharing
-Forthcoming message to Congress
-Meeting of working group
-President’s schedule
-Special revenue sharing meeting
-Work of working group
-President’s appreciation
-Meeting of working group
-Attendees
-President’s view
-Location
-Number of attendees
-The President
23
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Pamphlets
-Preparation
-Distribution
-Stephen B. Bull
-Subjects
-Distribution
-Congressmen
-Edwin D. Etherington, Donald McI. Kendall Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
Milk prices
-March 24, 1971 meeting
-John B. Connally
-Upcoming Congressional action
-Connally, Clifford M. Hardin, Ehrlichman, John C. Whitaker, Donald B. Rice
-Meeting with the President
-Deadline
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm
President’s schedule
-Mayors
-Etherington
-James L. Buckley
-Mayors
-Length of meeting
-John V. Lindsay
-Buckley
-Meeting with Connally, Hardin, Whitaker, Ehrlichman, and Rice
-Date and time
-Follow-up
-President’s conversations with Connally and Hardin
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 1:07 pm
Public works project
-Ehrlichman’s previous conversation with the President
-House Public Works Committee
-Public broadcasting
-Position of Republicans
-Possible veto of bill by President
-Environmental impact
-White House position
24
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Airlines
George W. Romney group’s meeting, March 22, 1971
-Ehrlichman’s attendance
-Further meeting
-Unions, business
-Possible freeze on prices and wages in construction
-Executive order Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Wage raises
-Arthur F. Burns
-Enforcement
-Department of Labor or Commerce
-A wage and price board
-Extension to longshoremen and other industries
-Steel
-Deadline
-John A. Volpe
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Attendees
-Volpe, Romney, Maurice H. Stans, Hardin, Winton M. (“Red”) Blount, Burns,
and Paul W. McCracken
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Stans
-Stans’ position
-Romney, Volpe
Burns
-Wage-Price Stabilization Board
-Call to Ehrlichman
-Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak column
-Taxes, Vance Hartke
-Support for President
-President’s meeting
-Statements on taxes
-Upcoming meeting with Shultz
-Relations with Connally, President
-Positions on investment tax policy
-Meeting with President
-Statements by Burns
-Economic policy discussion
-Wages and prices
Henry A. Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm
25
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
President and Kissinger’s schedules
Kissinger left at an unknown time before 1:07 pm
Burns
-Meeting with President
-White House staff
-McCracken, Shultz Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Wage-Price Stabilization Board
Wage-Price Stabilization Board
-Possibility for success
-President’s view
-Prices
-Future
-Shultz’s view
-President’s view
-Price increases
Davis-Bacon Act
-Administration’s position
-Burns’ possible response
-Shultz’s upcoming meeting with Burns
-Business community’s position
-Burns
Wage-Price Stabilization Board
Parity
-Burns
-Connally
-Burns’s position
-Blount’s question
-Construction industry
-Burns
-Scope
-Possible Executive Order
-Possibility of success
-Shultz’s position
-Ehrlichman’s view
-President’s position
-President’s policies
-Steel workers
26
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Dates of operation
-Cause and effect
-Steel industry
-Effect of possible strike
-McCracken’s position
-Construction industry
-History
-Timing Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-1972
Economy
-President’s talk with Connally
-Dow-Jones average
-Federal budget
-Goal
-First quarter of 1971 figures
-Direction
-Second half of 1971
-President’s view
-Steel
-Consumer Price Index [CPI]
-Direction
-Inflation
-Unemployment
-President’s position
-Last quarter of 1971
-President’s position
-Economists
-Direction
-Dow-Jones average
-1972 actions
-Money supply
-Burns
-Federal budget
-Shultz’s view
-Monetary policy
-Effects
-Future
-Otto Eckstein’s position
-Gross National Product [GNP] forecast
-Compared with Shultz’s forecast
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Stock market
-Etherington
-American Stock Exchange
-Effect on economy
-President’s view
-Profits
-Arthur B. Laffer’s model
-Institutional investors Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
-Peter Winant [?]
-Ehrlichman’s conversation
-Expectations for 1972, 1971
Shultz’s schedule
-Burns
Government reorganization
-Department of Transportation
-Volpe’s response
-Federal Aviation Administration [FAA] head
-Volpe
-Possible meeting with President
-Shultz, Ehrlichman
-Position on Supersonic Transport [SST] control
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-Department of Agriculture
-Hardin
-Extension service
-Possible compromise
-Volpe’s position
SST
-Upcoming Senate vote
-Tally
-Thornton A. (“T”) Wilson of Boeing
-Previous conversation with Shultz
-President’s position
-President’s position
-House leaders
-Gerald R. Ford, Scott
-Position on SST, rapid transit
-Labor’s position
-Kenneth E. BeLieu
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-[Name unintelligible]
-George Meany
-Forthcoming call from Shultz
-Jobs
-US position in world
-Andrew Biemiller
-Location
-BeLieu Conv. No. 472-11 (cont.)
Shultz’s meeting with Burns
-Wage-Price board
Ehrlichman and Shultz left at 1:07 pm