486–5

Conversation No. 486-5

Date: April 22, 1971
Time: 2:40 pm - 3:35 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

The President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with House Republican loyalists
-Daniel Kuykendall
-Additions
-Support for the President
-Senate meeting
-Clark MacGregor
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-Size of group
-Ideal number
-Size of group
-Number of meetings
-Satisfying group
-Upcoming meeting with House Republican loyalists
-President's possible role
-President's talk Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Vietnam
-MacGregor
-Mood of unknown meeting
-Upbeat

Agriculture Secretary
-Qualifications
-Salesmanship
-Under secretary

Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
-Director
-John B. Connally view
-Admiral George W. Anderson
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Anderson
-Appearance
-Qualifications
-William P. Rogers
Ambassadors
-Rogers
-Australia
-Edgar D. Whitcomb
-John N. Mitchell
-Maurice J. Williams
-Whitcomb
-Indiana

The President's previous meeting with Robert J. Dole
-Dole's trip to New York
-George H.W. Bush

Stock market
-Rise
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-Outlook
-Value
-Institutions
-Portfolios
-Wealth
-Borrowing power
-Economy
-Theory Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Polls
-Welfare
-Question regarding menial work
-Opposition to President's plan
-Wording of question
-Availability of jobs
-Manual labor
-President's work plan
-New York and Washington axis
-Menial jobs

The President's forthcoming speech to Chamber of Commerce, April 26, 1971
-Welfare
-William L. Safire
-Instructions
-Guaranteed income
-President's position
-Guaranteed income
-Effect on character
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Instructions
-1966 speech
-Medicine, housing, jobs
-Safire

The President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg
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-Welfare
-Previous meeting with Republican House leaders
-John W. Byrnes
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Votes for administration
-Television coverage
-Benefits
-Press Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Leftists
-Reaction
-Menial work
-Guaranteed annual income
-Dole

Polls
-Welfare
-Question regarding menial work

The President's schedule
-Meeting with Rogers

Rogers's forthcoming trip to Middle East
-Itinerary
-Cairo
-Beirut
-Tel Aviv
-[Unintelligible]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 22s ]

ISRAEL
Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

The President's schedule
-Meeting with Rogers
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Melvin R. Laird
-Kissinger and Laird

Rogers's relations with Kissinger

People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Press release
-Kissinger
-State Department
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Credit for PRC initiative
-Press

The President's remarks at Republican Governors' Conference, Williamsburg
-Welfare
-Noel C. Koch
-Unknown speech

Unknown person
-Niece
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Spain
-College
-Secret Service agent
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-Secretary
-Language capabilities
-Spanish and French
-Anecdote

The President's conversation with Tricia Nixon
-Edward R. F. Cox’s comments
-Radicals at Harvard University Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Violence
-Rennie Davis
-Violence
-Reports

The President's forthcoming speech to Chamber of Commerce
-Self-help
-Development of capacity
-Safire

Welfare
-Unknown man's views

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:40 pm

The President's schedule
-Meeting with Rogers
-Kissinger
-General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Note-taking

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:22 pm

-Previous meeting with Connally
-Note-taking

Rogers's forthcoming trip
-Kissinger’s concerns
-Haig
-Note-taking

Sub-Cabinet officials
-Connally
-Need for instruction
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-Harry S. Dent

Dent
-Television appearances
-South
-Speeches
-President's programs
-Former Democrats Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Dent’s speeches

Personalizing program
-Speeches
-Republican efforts
-John D. Ehrlichman

Democrat and Republican parties
-Differences
-Democrats
-Personification
-Republicans
-Process
-Democrats
-Government
-Politicians
-Connally
-Use of personal terms

President’s schedule
-Unknown meeting

Speech writing
-Programming
-Selection of source materials
-Example
-Flag

Mrs. Paul W. Heatwole
-Knitting of flag
-Democrat
-Newspaper story
-Silent majority
-Meeting with the President
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-John O. Marsh, Jr.
-Presentation of flag to the President
-Age
-Open-door hour
-September 1970
-Staff

The President's previous speech to Daughters of the American Revolution
Conv. No. April
486-5
[DAR], (cont.)
19,
1971
-Flag reference

Mrs. Heatwole
-Democrat

The President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with Rogers
-Kissinger's view regarding Haig
-Note-taking
-Purpose
-Rogers's possible intiatives

Personnel
-Coordination
-Rogers
-Mitchell
-Anti-trust case
-Staff
-Kissinger

Networks
-Anti-trust case
-Mitchell
-Ehrlichman
-President's position
-Ehrlichman's view
-Mitchell's conversation with Haldeman
-Ehrlichman
-Memorandum
-Charles W. Colson
-President's position
-Possible suit
-Merits
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-President's position
-Mitchell

International Telephone & Telegraph Corporation (ITT)
-Anti-trust case
-Mitchell
-Political implications
-Solicitor general Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Ehrlichman

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 3:22 pm

The President's schedule
-Upcoming meeting with Rogers
-Press photograph

Rogers's schedule
-Organization of American States [OAS]
-London

The President's schedule
-Rogers
-Photograph session
-Haldeman

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Demonstrations
-Arrests
-Press
-Ziegler’s schedule
-Briefing
-Judge George L. Hart, Jr.
-Philip A. Hart
-Senate resolution
-Mall
-Vote
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-Quorum
-Possible use of administration allies in Senate

[Thomas]Hale Boggs
-Tapping of phone
-Forthcoming statement
-Oil industry
-Unknown woman Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
-Personal life
-Russell B. Long

Desegregation
-Ziegler's morning briefing
-Agencies
-Violence
-Schools
-Administration policy
-Cooperation over coercion
-Jail
-Cooperation

[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Stephen B. Bull entered and left at an unknown time during the transcribed portion.

Rogers, Fred Maroon, and Stan Wayman entered at 3:32 pm

Greetings

Photographs
-Location
-Indoors
-[Rose Garden]
-Press
-Weather

[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
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court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]
Haldeman's schedule
-Photographs
Conv. No. 486-5 (cont.)
The President, Haldeman, Ziegler, Rogers, Maroon, and Wayman left at 3:35 pm