516–10

Conversation No. 516-10

Date: June 10, 1971
Time: 3:08 pm - 4:24 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman, Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr., Jeffrey Donfeld, Arnold R.
Weber, and Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe

Greetings

Veterans program [Vietnam returnees]
-Time phases
-Jaffe’s work with Pentagon
-Overall drug program
-Need for national emphasis
-Upcoming returnees
-Drug problems
-Treatment
-Identification
-Detoxification
-Referral
-Veterans’ Administration [VA] facilities
-Civilian facilities
-Short run problems
-Location

Manolo Sanchez entered at unknown time after 3:08 pm

Refreshments

Sanchez left at unknown time before 4:24 pm

Veterans program [Vietnam returnees]
-Book sent to Jaffe from President
-Content
-Dr. W. Kenneth Riland
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Prentiss/Hall role
-Focus on servicemen and drugs
-Magnitude of problem
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] role
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-Priorities
-Drug program
-Urgency
-Civilian facilities
-Overloading
-Desire of soldiers for treatment
-Physical state of servicemen returning
-Degree affected by drug use
-Most immediate returnees
-Need for information on nature of drug problem
-Extent of drug usage in Europe
-Programs and technology for drug identification
-Statistical programs
-Coverage
-Spread of drugs
-Universities
-University of California at Berkeley
-Harvard University
-Tenacity of drug problem
-Drug availability in Vietnam versus Harvard and Ivy League
-Employment opportunities
-Vietnam veteran versus non-veteran
-Chances of drug problem
-Jaffe role
-Evidence of drug relapse
-Use of drugs
-Context of use
-African-American usage
-Optimistic outlook
-Data
-Detoxification
-Short-term versus long-term programs
-Problems with discharging soldiers
-Discipline
-Psychology of war
-Reality of casualties
-Ehrlichman
-Need for longer term treatment
-Ehrlichman and Krogh
-Details
-Reward for non user
-Cost of habit support
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-New York versus Vietnam
-Problems
-Crime
-Facilities
-Military
-Civilian
-Use of ship transport
-Benefits Conv. No. 516-10 (cont.)
-Use of anchored transports
-Benefits
-Diagnosis
-Incentive to improve
-Treatment
-Treatment of soldiers still on duty in Vietnam
-Use of drugs to get home
-Location of aid
-Use toward service time
-Treatment of rehabilitated soldiers
-Honorable discharge
-Education ideas
-Appraisal of dangers
-Inducement of withdrawal symptoms
-Chances of death of heroin user
-Statistics
-Reduction of drug use
-Diagnosis of problem
-Deterrent effect
-Types of tests
-Transfer of user
-Civilian and military linkage
-Military/civilian drug program
-Cooperation
-New agency
-Authority
-Facilities
-New
-Old
-VA
-Treatment centers
-Capacity
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] view
-Over-capacity
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-Over-cost
-VA
-Eventual cutback
-Veterans benefits
-Legislative remedy
-Overall program
-International cooperation
-Criminal action Conv. No. 516-10 (cont.)
-Penalties to pushers
-Penalties to policemen cooperating
-Local legislation
-Public reaction
-Good cops versus bad cops
-User versus seller
-Penalties to police cooperating with sellers
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
-Washington, DC law
-Jerry V. Wilson’s role
-Washington, DC law as model
-Treatment of addicts as supply drops
-Treatment options
-Methadone
-Psychotherapy
-Use of reformed addicts
-Methadone use
-Knowledge in medical community
-Chicago facilities
-Mayor Richard J. Daley role
-State responsibility
-Treatment options
-Synanon
-Daytop Village [?]
-Synanon
-Affected group
-Problems
-Methadone
-Methadone use
-Intermediate use
-Addict view
-Success rate
-Use of drugs
-Men versus women
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-Difficulty of treating women
-Methadone use
-Methods of administering methadone
-Benefits
-Problems
-Substitute drug
-University of Chicago
-Short effect span Conv. No. 516-10 (cont.)
-Benefits
-Reselling of methadone
-Deaths from methadone
-Goals of program
-Synanon, Phoenix House, Daytop Village, Odyssey House
-Drug-free goal
-Drawbacks of other methods
-Rehabilitation
-Arrest rates of patients under treatment
-Implications
-Methadone use
-Availability of methadone
-Legal ramifications
-Civilian involvement in programs
-Multi-faceted attack on drugs
-Research
-Counseling
-Law enforcement
-International cooperation
-Monday conference
-Follow up
-Turkey
-France
-Vietnam
-Mexico
-Thailand
-Laos
-New medicine
-Characteristics
-Use
-Research needs
-Research programs
-National Institute of Mental Health [NIMH] role
-Need for direction
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-Money problems
-Personnel
-Skill
-Location
-Budgeting
-Bureaucratic problems
-President’s view
-NIMH Conv. No. 516-10 (cont.)
-HEW
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Department of Justice [DOJ]
-HEW
-Legislative needs
-Jaffe role
-Problems with legislative pursuits
-Bureaucracy handling
-HEW
-Bureaucratic needs
-Drug abuse leadership
-John E. (“Jack”) Ingersoll
-Acquiring of new personnel
-Earlier efforts
-Bureaucratic achievement
-Centralize control
-Influx of drugs
-Laos
-Attack on poppies
-Pest development

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-Dr. Norman E. Borlaug
-Dr. Edwin H. Land
-Research schools
-Cornell University
-University of California at Davis
-Crop destruction
-Mediterranean fruit fly
Conv. No. 516-10 (cont.)
[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:08 pm and
4:17 pm]

[Conversation No. 516-10A]

[See Conversation No. 5-3]

[End of telephone conversation]

Attack on poppies
-Benefits
-Utility of past expenditures

[The President talked with Clifford M. Hardin between 4:17 pm and 4:22 pm]

[Conversation No. 516-10B]

[See Conversation No. 5-4]

[End of telephone conversation]

Screw worm
-US Department of Agriculture [USDA]
-Texas problems
-Use of sterilized male screw worms

Drug program
-Riland role
-Pill factory use

Jaffe, Donfeld, Weber, Krogh, and Ehrlichman left at 4:24 pm
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