Secret White House Tapes

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517–5
  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • Elliot L. Richardson
  • Roger O. Egeberg
  • Kenneth R. Cole
  • White House photographer
June 11, 1971
Conversation No. 517-5

Date: June 11, 1971
Time: 10:37 am - 11:08 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Elliot L. Richardson, Roger O. Egeberg, and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.; the
White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting

Greetings

Weather
-Wedding plans

The White House photographer left at unknown time before 11:08 am

Appreciation of Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] work
-Congressional salesmanship
-Egeberg’s role
-Necessity of putting message across
-Egeberg’s efforts for HEW
-Feeling for President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

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An unknown man [Stephen B. Bull?] entered at an unknown time after 10:37 am

President’s schedule

The unknown man [Bull?] left at an unknown time before 11:08 am

Doctors of HEW Conv. No. 517-4 (cont.)
-Quality of HEW program

Use of money
-Translation into useable service
-Supply/demand considerations

Health Maintenance Organization [HMO] programs
-Kaiser Permanente
-Participation
-Misinterpretation
-American Medical Association [AMA]
-Administration public relations
-Opportunity for membership
-Future prospects

Drug program
-Alcohol programs
-Use of alcohol versus drugs
-Medicinal use of drugs

Welfare reform

Revenue sharing
-Education
-Cancer research

Office of Management and Budget [OMB]

Mental health
-Size of field of mental health
-Welfare reform versus health care
-Investment breakdown
-Thrust of programs
-Effectiveness of program
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-Translation into large scale program from experience
-Constituency strength in mental health
-President of National Association of Mental Health [NAMH]
-Meeting with President
-Problems with medicine
-Psychosomatic illness
-Old school versus new school
-Will to Live Conv. No. 517-5 (cont.)
-Author
-Dr. Arnold A. Hutschnecker
-Rose Mary Woods
-Analysis of personal cases
-Drug problem
-Personality deficit
-Beneficial use of drugs
-Problems with different drugs
-Doctors’ role
-Phenobarbital
-Mexican contacts
-Phenobarbital versus heroin
-Combinations of drugs
-Administration contact with doctors
-AMA contacts
-Attack on drug problems
-Educational campaign
-Treatments
-Forthcoming HEW meeting with AMA
-President’s role
-Support for doctors
-Arthur G. (“Art”) Linkletter
-Daughter
-Carl M. Yastrzemski
-Boston Red Sox
-Educators’ role
-Effect of doctors on youthful drug users
-Lack of political identification
-Benefit of education
-AMA involvement
-Lecture participation
-Doctors’ lectures
-Benefit
-Medical group versus business
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
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-Poll on business
-Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
-Public opinion
-Doctors
-Public opinion
-President’s schedule
-Upcoming meeting with AMA
Conv. No. 517-5 (cont.)
Gift presentation
-Cuff links
-Golf balls
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

Drug problem
-Doctors’ lectures
-Content

Richardson, et al. left and Bull entered at 11:06 am

President’s schedule
-John Sherman Cooper

Bull left at unknown time before 11:08 am
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