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520-3
- President Richard M. Nixon
- H. R. Haldeman
- Alexander P. Butterfield
- Stephen B. Bull
- William N. Brown
- H. Jackson Pontius
- Fred C. Tucker
- Donald I. Hovde
- George W. Romney
- John D. Ehrlichman
- Henry C. Cashen
- Oliver F. "Ollie" Atkins
June 15, 1971
Conversation No. 520-3
Date: June 15, 1971
Time: 9:56 am - 10:37 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
Charles W. Colson
3
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
“Dick Cavett Show”
-Audience
-Youth and idealism
Pentagon Papers
-Memorandum from the President
-Staff contact with the New York Times
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Max Frankel
-George P. Shultz
-Robert H. Finch
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-William L. Safire
-John A. Scali
-Administration tactics
-Handling of New York Times’ questions
-Arguments against tactics
Personnel
-Unnamed person [John M. O’Neill]
-Colson handling
-Idealism
President’s schedule
-Arthur K. Watson meeting
-Meetings
-Policy
-Watson effort
Pentagon Papers
-Leaks
-Need to prevent leaks
-Congressional reaction
-Department of the Army
-Administration’s handling of the story
-John N. Mitchell
-Daniel Ellsberg
-Leslie H. Gelb
-Prosecution
-Mitchell
-New York Times role
4
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 29s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
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President’s schedule
-Willy Brandt State Dinner
-Invitation for Watson
Congressional situation
-Hugh Scott’s view of George S. McGovern-Mark O. Hatfield amendment
-Criticism of President
-Role of New York Times publication of Pentagon Papers
-Kissinger
-Neil Sheehan
-Counterattack
-Tom C. Huston
-Goal
President’s schedule
-Minot Island
-Notification of press
Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:56 am
-Preparation for visitors
-Watson
Butterfield and Bull left at an unknown time before 10:13 am
-Rochester trip
-Nelson A. Rockefeller [?] schedule
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Wedding
-Guest list
-Rockefeller [?]
-Lyndon B. Johnson handling
-Press release
-Johnson Library release
-President’s handling
-Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
-Ronald L. Ziegler
Midway Island trip
-Preparations
Vietnam
-Troop announcements
-Melvin R. Laird
-Text of announcements
-Meeting with General Nguyen Van Thieu on Midway Island
-Election impact
-Ellsworth F. Bunker role
-Television play
-Role of speeches
-Counter to critics
Drugs
-Role of speeches
-American Medical Association [AMA] role
-Robert P. Griffin
-Radio speeches
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s efforts
-Perception of problem
-President’s supporters
-Drugs and crime
-Marijuana users
-Support for President
-Vietnam demonstrators
-Eastern colleges
-University of Southern California group
Haldeman left at 10:13 am
6
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
William N. Brown, H. Jackson Pontius, Fred C. Tucker, Jr., Donald I. Hovde, John C.
Williamson, George W. Romney, John D. Ehrlichman, and Henry C. Cashen, II entered at 10:14
am; Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins was present at the beginning of the meeting
Greetings
Introductions
Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
Seating
Wedding
-Television coverage
-Viewing by population
Housing
-Revenue sharing
-National Association of Real Estate Boards [NAREB]
-Support for President
-Plight of cities
-Effect on property taxes
-Use in speeches
-Perception of people
-History of property taxes
-Correlation of taxes and revenue sharing
-Rationale
-John B. Connally role
-Effect on home buying and education
-Effects on individual taxes
-Newark, New Jersey
-High income versus low income effects
-Political issue
-Revenue sharing
-Taxation
-Basis for taxation
-Nature of tax burden
-Lack of planning
-Federal Housing Administration [FHA]
-Project defaults in Newark
-Effect on education
-School costs
-San Jose, California project
-Natural beauty
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Los Angeles
-Knott’s Berry Farm
-Taxes
-Appreciation of President’s stance on revenue sharing
-NAREB conference, San Diego
-Romney speech
-Quality
-Endorsement of President’s program Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
-Construction costs and interest
-Effect on home ownership
-President’s programs
-Davis-Bacon Act
-Construction cost stabilization
-Reduction of interest rates
-Effect of taxes and costs on ownership
-Role of labor costs
-Quadriad meeting
-Industry agreements
-Long-term nature of program
-Interest rates
-Priority of problem
-Romney efforts
-Action of Philadelphia bank
-History
-Effect on housing levels
-Relation to money supply
-Inflation possibilities
-FHA role
-Snowball effect of rate rise
-Discrimination
-Jackson Kearns of Civil Rights Commission
-Romney efforts
-Pressures on administration
-Economic and racial discrimination
-Pacific Northwest project
-Objections
-Reasons
-Use of public funds
-Weapon against discrimination
-”Black Jack” case
-Separation of economy and racial discrimination
-Romney efforts
8
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Nature of man
-Supreme Court decision
-Lackawanna case
-Rationale
-Referendum intent
-Problems
-Need to sustain housing boom
-Revenue sharing support Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
-Relation to property taxes
General discussion
Gift presentation
State of the nation
Brown, et al. left at 10:37 am
Date: June 15, 1971
Time: 9:56 am - 10:37 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
Charles W. Colson
3
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
“Dick Cavett Show”
-Audience
-Youth and idealism
Pentagon Papers
-Memorandum from the President
-Staff contact with the New York Times
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Max Frankel
-George P. Shultz
-Robert H. Finch
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-William L. Safire
-John A. Scali
-Administration tactics
-Handling of New York Times’ questions
-Arguments against tactics
Personnel
-Unnamed person [John M. O’Neill]
-Colson handling
-Idealism
President’s schedule
-Arthur K. Watson meeting
-Meetings
-Policy
-Watson effort
Pentagon Papers
-Leaks
-Need to prevent leaks
-Congressional reaction
-Department of the Army
-Administration’s handling of the story
-John N. Mitchell
-Daniel Ellsberg
-Leslie H. Gelb
-Prosecution
-Mitchell
-New York Times role
4
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
******************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 29s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
******************************************************************************
President’s schedule
-Willy Brandt State Dinner
-Invitation for Watson
Congressional situation
-Hugh Scott’s view of George S. McGovern-Mark O. Hatfield amendment
-Criticism of President
-Role of New York Times publication of Pentagon Papers
-Kissinger
-Neil Sheehan
-Counterattack
-Tom C. Huston
-Goal
President’s schedule
-Minot Island
-Notification of press
Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:56 am
-Preparation for visitors
-Watson
Butterfield and Bull left at an unknown time before 10:13 am
-Rochester trip
-Nelson A. Rockefeller [?] schedule
5
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
Wedding
-Guest list
-Rockefeller [?]
-Lyndon B. Johnson handling
-Press release
-Johnson Library release
-President’s handling
-Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
-Ronald L. Ziegler
Midway Island trip
-Preparations
Vietnam
-Troop announcements
-Melvin R. Laird
-Text of announcements
-Meeting with General Nguyen Van Thieu on Midway Island
-Election impact
-Ellsworth F. Bunker role
-Television play
-Role of speeches
-Counter to critics
Drugs
-Role of speeches
-American Medical Association [AMA] role
-Robert P. Griffin
-Radio speeches
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s efforts
-Perception of problem
-President’s supporters
-Drugs and crime
-Marijuana users
-Support for President
-Vietnam demonstrators
-Eastern colleges
-University of Southern California group
Haldeman left at 10:13 am
6
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
William N. Brown, H. Jackson Pontius, Fred C. Tucker, Jr., Donald I. Hovde, John C.
Williamson, George W. Romney, John D. Ehrlichman, and Henry C. Cashen, II entered at 10:14
am; Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins was present at the beginning of the meeting
Greetings
Introductions
Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
Seating
Wedding
-Television coverage
-Viewing by population
Housing
-Revenue sharing
-National Association of Real Estate Boards [NAREB]
-Support for President
-Plight of cities
-Effect on property taxes
-Use in speeches
-Perception of people
-History of property taxes
-Correlation of taxes and revenue sharing
-Rationale
-John B. Connally role
-Effect on home buying and education
-Effects on individual taxes
-Newark, New Jersey
-High income versus low income effects
-Political issue
-Revenue sharing
-Taxation
-Basis for taxation
-Nature of tax burden
-Lack of planning
-Federal Housing Administration [FHA]
-Project defaults in Newark
-Effect on education
-School costs
-San Jose, California project
-Natural beauty
7
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Los Angeles
-Knott’s Berry Farm
-Taxes
-Appreciation of President’s stance on revenue sharing
-NAREB conference, San Diego
-Romney speech
-Quality
-Endorsement of President’s program Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
-Construction costs and interest
-Effect on home ownership
-President’s programs
-Davis-Bacon Act
-Construction cost stabilization
-Reduction of interest rates
-Effect of taxes and costs on ownership
-Role of labor costs
-Quadriad meeting
-Industry agreements
-Long-term nature of program
-Interest rates
-Priority of problem
-Romney efforts
-Action of Philadelphia bank
-History
-Effect on housing levels
-Relation to money supply
-Inflation possibilities
-FHA role
-Snowball effect of rate rise
-Discrimination
-Jackson Kearns of Civil Rights Commission
-Romney efforts
-Pressures on administration
-Economic and racial discrimination
-Pacific Northwest project
-Objections
-Reasons
-Use of public funds
-Weapon against discrimination
-”Black Jack” case
-Separation of economy and racial discrimination
-Romney efforts
8
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/08)
-Nature of man
-Supreme Court decision
-Lackawanna case
-Rationale
-Referendum intent
-Problems
-Need to sustain housing boom
-Revenue sharing support Conv. No. 520-3 (cont.)
-Relation to property taxes
General discussion
Gift presentation
State of the nation
Brown, et al. left at 10:37 am