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579–10
- President Richard M. Nixon
- White House operator
- Hugh Scott
- Robert P. Griffin
- Gerald R. Ford
- Leslie C. Arends
- Clark MacGregor
- Julie Nixon Eisenhower
- Charles W. Colson
September 28, 1971
Conversation No. 579-10
Date: September 28, 1971
Time: Unknown between 4:23 pm and 5:21 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President talked with the White House operator.
[Conversation No. 579-10A]
[See Conversation No. 10-11]
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, Clark MacGregor, Ronald L.
Ziegler, George P. Shultz, and John D. Ehrlichman entered at 4:23 pm.
[End of telephone conversation]
[Greetings]
[General conversation]
Funeral for Justice Hugo L. Black
Instructions to Ziegler to hold telephone calls
Ziegler talked with Julie Eisenhower at an unknown time after 4:23 pm.
[Conversation No. 579-10B]
[See Conversation No. 10-12]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s schedule
-Meeting
-Agenda
-List
Tax package in House of Representatives
-House committee
-Bill
-The President's proposal
-Percent
-Amount of money
-Treasury Department
-Taxes
-Trust fund
-Losing money
-Rules Committee meeting
-Date
-Presentation
-Speaker of the House
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Tax package in Senate
-Mark ups
-Date
-Amendments
-The President's economic initiatives
-Wallace F. Bennett
-Russell F. Long
-Trade offs
-Bennett
-Excise tax
-Timing
-Long
-National budget
-Automobile dealers
-Charles W. Colson
-Relationship between Colson and dealers
-Senators
-Pressure
-Arthur F. Burns
Defense
-William B. Saxbe's amendment
-McDonnell-Douglas contract
-Britain
-Gaylord Nelson's amendment, September 29. 1971
-William Proxmire
-Saxbe
-Anti-ballistic missile [ABM]
-Helsinki, Finland
-Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT] talks
-Thomas F. Eagleton
Foreign affairs
-J. William Fulbright
-Rhodesia
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Joseph M. Montoya
-Report of South Vietnamese election
Meeting with Mansfield
-Stennis
37
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Timing
-John G. Tower
-David H. Gambrell
-Timing
-Federal employees wage deferment
-Military Procurement Bill
-Timing
-W. Stuart Symington
-Laos Amendment
-Votes
-Conferees
-Senate version
-F. Edward Hebert
-Neutrality
-Carl B. Albert
-Tabling motion
-House of Representatives
-Reorganization
Vietnam space
-US legislation
-US withdrawal of troops
-Mansfield amendment
-Credit for ending the war
-President
-Congress
-The President's efforts
-Opposition from Congress
-Mansfield Amendment
-Effect on negotiations
-Possible parliamentary action
-Hebert
-Albert
-Conferees
-Foreign aid bill
-Authorizations
-Conferees
-Senate action
-Effect on negotiations
-Timing
-Credit
38
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-South Vietnamese election, October 3, 1971
-Public impact
-Press
-Tactics
-Duong Van Minh
-Nguyen Cao Ky
-Foreign countries
-Leaders
-Contested elections
-The President's meeting with the Organization of African Unity
-Contested election in Africa
-Colombia
-Mexico
-Vietnam
-Legislatures
-George Washington
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Election in South Vietnam
Mansfield amendment
-Military Procurement Bill
-Hebert
-Stennis
-Congress
-Convening
-Political questions
-Credit for ending the war
-Albert
Federal wage deferral bill
-Shultz
-Morris K. Udall's bill
-Provisions
-Federal employees
-Private sector
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Private sector
-Employees
-Percentage
-Federal employees
-Wage adjustment
39
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Percent
-Presumptions
-Phase II economics
-Labor representatives
-George Meany
-Leonard Woodcock
-Arthur F. Burns
-Regulation of federal wages
-Comparability
-The President's proposal
-Status
-Date
-Resolution of disapproval
-Passage
-Senate's actions
-The President's signature
-COLC
-Figures
-Federal employees
-Percentage
-Military pay increase
-Gale W. McGee
-Civilian employees
-Pay raise
-Administration's strategy
-The President's alternative plan
-Phase II
-Proposals
-Labor representatives
-Congress
-Labor
-Support for the President
-Republicans
-Lawrence J. Hogan
-Democrats
-Tom Bevill
-David N. Henderson
-Conversation with Ford
-Number of possible Democratic votes
-Number needed by administration
-Chambers of Commerce
40
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
- National Association of Manufacturers [NAM]
-Support for the President
-Mail
-Public's views
-Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
-Results
-Albert
-Quantity
-Propaganda from government employees
-Representative
-Chamber of Commerce
-Timing of vote
-H[arold] R[oyce] Gross
-Military pay
-Pressure on Democrats
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:23 pm and
4:55 pm.
[Conversation No. 579-10C]
[See Conversation No. 10-13]
[End of telephone conversation]
Federal Wage Defferal Bill
-Pressure on Democrats
-Military installations
-Government employees
-US News and World Report
-State per capita income
The President talked with Charles W. Colson between 4:55 pm and 4:57 pm.
[Conversation No. 579-10D]
[See Conversation No. 10-14]
[End of telephone conversation]
Welfare reform
41
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Economic tax package
Welfare programs
Revenue sharing
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Executive meetings
-Voting
-Recess
-The President's wage and price freeze
-Mills
-Health hearings
-Ford's conversation with John W. Byrnes
-Ways and Means Committee
-Hiatus
-Tax package
-Timing
-Barber B. Conable, Jr.
-Mills's schedule
-Speaking engagements
-Governors
-Mayors
-Local officials
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Speech
-California
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Mills
-Speech previous Sunday
-News summary
-Use of delays
-Proposals
-Local units of government
-Tax credit
-State tax
-John Byrnes
-State legislatures
-Question for Mills
-Welfare reform
-Republicans
42
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Congress's actions
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Bill
-The President's comments in Detroit
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare service reform
-Finance Committee
-Griffin
-Adjournment
-Leadership in Congress
Supreme Court appointments
-The President's previous conversation with Griffin
-John N. Mitchell's conversation with Scott
-Timing of announcements
-Richard H. Poff
-Possibility of Senate confirmation
-Emanuel Celler
-Charles McC. Mathias
-John J. Rhodes's conversation with Saxbe
-Robert A. Taft, Jr.
-Proposed meetings between Griffin, Taft, and Charles H. Percy, and Ted
Stevens
-Mark O. Hatfield
-Political problems
-Tom McCall
-Percy
-Mitchell
-Clement F. Haynsworth, Jr.
-G. Harrold Carswell
-Mills
-Southern manifesto
-J. William Fulbright
-Philip A. Hart
-Birch E. Bayh, Jr.
-Necessity for Southern appointment
-Griffin, Scott
-Pressure for Supreme Court appointees
-Mitchell
43
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Conversation with the President concerning announcement
-Background checks
-Woman candidate for Court
-Effect of nomination
-List of recommendees
-Possible Senate approval
-Working habits of Court
-William O. Douglas
Congressional adjournment
-Rules Committee
-Emergency legislation
-Date
-Albert's conversation with Ford
-Thanksgiving week schedule
-Rules Committee's criteria
-Bill
-Deadlines
-Albert's plans
-Mansfield's conversation with Scott
-Thanksgiving recess
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Environment bill
-Tax package
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Confirmation
-Date
Edward M. Kennedy
-Prisoner of war [POW] statement
-News story
-Associated Press [AP]
-POW wives
-Breakfast
Book by Edith Efron
-Networks coverage of 1968 election
Meetings
44
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Size
-Formality
-OAU
-Timing
-Press coverage
-Detroit trip
Scott, et al. left at 5:21 pm.
Republicans
-Support from Scott
-Haynsworth and Carswell
-Poff
Griffin left at an unknown time before 5:23 pm.
Date: September 28, 1971
Time: Unknown between 4:23 pm and 5:21 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President talked with the White House operator.
[Conversation No. 579-10A]
[See Conversation No. 10-11]
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, Clark MacGregor, Ronald L.
Ziegler, George P. Shultz, and John D. Ehrlichman entered at 4:23 pm.
[End of telephone conversation]
[Greetings]
[General conversation]
Funeral for Justice Hugo L. Black
Instructions to Ziegler to hold telephone calls
Ziegler talked with Julie Eisenhower at an unknown time after 4:23 pm.
[Conversation No. 579-10B]
[See Conversation No. 10-12]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s schedule
-Meeting
-Agenda
-List
Tax package in House of Representatives
-House committee
-Bill
-The President's proposal
-Percent
-Amount of money
-Treasury Department
-Taxes
-Trust fund
-Losing money
-Rules Committee meeting
-Date
-Presentation
-Speaker of the House
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Tax package in Senate
-Mark ups
-Date
-Amendments
-The President's economic initiatives
-Wallace F. Bennett
-Russell F. Long
-Trade offs
-Bennett
-Excise tax
-Timing
-Long
-National budget
-Automobile dealers
-Charles W. Colson
-Relationship between Colson and dealers
-Senators
-Pressure
-Arthur F. Burns
Defense
-William B. Saxbe's amendment
-McDonnell-Douglas contract
-Britain
-Gaylord Nelson's amendment, September 29. 1971
-William Proxmire
-Saxbe
-Anti-ballistic missile [ABM]
-Helsinki, Finland
-Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT] talks
-Thomas F. Eagleton
Foreign affairs
-J. William Fulbright
-Rhodesia
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Joseph M. Montoya
-Report of South Vietnamese election
Meeting with Mansfield
-Stennis
37
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Timing
-John G. Tower
-David H. Gambrell
-Timing
-Federal employees wage deferment
-Military Procurement Bill
-Timing
-W. Stuart Symington
-Laos Amendment
-Votes
-Conferees
-Senate version
-F. Edward Hebert
-Neutrality
-Carl B. Albert
-Tabling motion
-House of Representatives
-Reorganization
Vietnam space
-US legislation
-US withdrawal of troops
-Mansfield amendment
-Credit for ending the war
-President
-Congress
-The President's efforts
-Opposition from Congress
-Mansfield Amendment
-Effect on negotiations
-Possible parliamentary action
-Hebert
-Albert
-Conferees
-Foreign aid bill
-Authorizations
-Conferees
-Senate action
-Effect on negotiations
-Timing
-Credit
38
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-South Vietnamese election, October 3, 1971
-Public impact
-Press
-Tactics
-Duong Van Minh
-Nguyen Cao Ky
-Foreign countries
-Leaders
-Contested elections
-The President's meeting with the Organization of African Unity
-Contested election in Africa
-Colombia
-Mexico
-Vietnam
-Legislatures
-George Washington
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Election in South Vietnam
Mansfield amendment
-Military Procurement Bill
-Hebert
-Stennis
-Congress
-Convening
-Political questions
-Credit for ending the war
-Albert
Federal wage deferral bill
-Shultz
-Morris K. Udall's bill
-Provisions
-Federal employees
-Private sector
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Private sector
-Employees
-Percentage
-Federal employees
-Wage adjustment
39
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Percent
-Presumptions
-Phase II economics
-Labor representatives
-George Meany
-Leonard Woodcock
-Arthur F. Burns
-Regulation of federal wages
-Comparability
-The President's proposal
-Status
-Date
-Resolution of disapproval
-Passage
-Senate's actions
-The President's signature
-COLC
-Figures
-Federal employees
-Percentage
-Military pay increase
-Gale W. McGee
-Civilian employees
-Pay raise
-Administration's strategy
-The President's alternative plan
-Phase II
-Proposals
-Labor representatives
-Congress
-Labor
-Support for the President
-Republicans
-Lawrence J. Hogan
-Democrats
-Tom Bevill
-David N. Henderson
-Conversation with Ford
-Number of possible Democratic votes
-Number needed by administration
-Chambers of Commerce
40
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
- National Association of Manufacturers [NAM]
-Support for the President
-Public's views
-Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
-Results
-Albert
-Quantity
-Propaganda from government employees
-Representative
-Chamber of Commerce
-Timing of vote
-H[arold] R[oyce] Gross
-Military pay
-Pressure on Democrats
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:23 pm and
4:55 pm.
[Conversation No. 579-10C]
[See Conversation No. 10-13]
[End of telephone conversation]
Federal Wage Defferal Bill
-Pressure on Democrats
-Military installations
-Government employees
-US News and World Report
-State per capita income
The President talked with Charles W. Colson between 4:55 pm and 4:57 pm.
[Conversation No. 579-10D]
[See Conversation No. 10-14]
[End of telephone conversation]
Welfare reform
41
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Economic tax package
Welfare programs
Revenue sharing
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Executive meetings
-Voting
-Recess
-The President's wage and price freeze
-Mills
-Health hearings
-Ford's conversation with John W. Byrnes
-Ways and Means Committee
-Hiatus
-Tax package
-Timing
-Barber B. Conable, Jr.
-Mills's schedule
-Speaking engagements
-Governors
-Mayors
-Local officials
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Speech
-California
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Mills
-Speech previous Sunday
-News summary
-Use of delays
-Proposals
-Local units of government
-Tax credit
-State tax
-John Byrnes
-State legislatures
-Question for Mills
-Welfare reform
-Republicans
42
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
Congress's actions
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Bill
-The President's comments in Detroit
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare service reform
-Finance Committee
-Griffin
-Adjournment
-Leadership in Congress
Supreme Court appointments
-The President's previous conversation with Griffin
-John N. Mitchell's conversation with Scott
-Timing of announcements
-Richard H. Poff
-Possibility of Senate confirmation
-Emanuel Celler
-Charles McC. Mathias
-John J. Rhodes's conversation with Saxbe
-Robert A. Taft, Jr.
-Proposed meetings between Griffin, Taft, and Charles H. Percy, and Ted
Stevens
-Mark O. Hatfield
-Political problems
-Tom McCall
-Percy
-Mitchell
-Clement F. Haynsworth, Jr.
-G. Harrold Carswell
-Mills
-Southern manifesto
-J. William Fulbright
-Philip A. Hart
-Birch E. Bayh, Jr.
-Necessity for Southern appointment
-Griffin, Scott
-Pressure for Supreme Court appointees
-Mitchell
43
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Conversation with the President concerning announcement
-Background checks
-Woman candidate for Court
-Effect of nomination
-List of recommendees
-Possible Senate approval
-Working habits of Court
-William O. Douglas
Congressional adjournment
-Rules Committee
-Emergency legislation
-Date
-Albert's conversation with Ford
-Thanksgiving week schedule
-Rules Committee's criteria
-Bill
-Deadlines
-Albert's plans
-Mansfield's conversation with Scott
-Thanksgiving recess
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Environment bill
-Tax package
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Confirmation
-Date
Edward M. Kennedy
-Prisoner of war [POW] statement
-News story
-Associated Press [AP]
-POW wives
-Breakfast
Book by Edith Efron
-Networks coverage of 1968 election
Meetings
44
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 579-10 (cont.)
-Size
-Formality
-OAU
-Timing
-Press coverage
-Detroit trip
Scott, et al. left at 5:21 pm.
Republicans
-Support from Scott
-Haynsworth and Carswell
-Poff
Griffin left at an unknown time before 5:23 pm.
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