642–37

Conversation No. 642-37

Date: January 3, 1972
Time: 12:18 pm - 12:32 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R.
Cole, Jr. and James H. Cavanaugh; the White House photographer was present at the beginning
of the meeting.
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Introductions

Photograph

Cancer Bill

Photograph session arrangements

[Photograph session]
-The President’s interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972

Health care
-Health Bill
-National health insurance
-The President’s proposals
-Support for the President
-Election year
-Edward M. Kennedy Bill
-Socialized medicine and compulsory health insurance
-The President’s opposition
-Present system in US
-Improvement
-Elliot L. Richardson's work
-Budget
-World situation
-Socialized medicine
-Great Britain
-US health care
-Quality
-Availability
-Cost
-Insurance coverage
-Health Bill
-Quality compared to quantity of care
-Kennedy Bill
-Analogy to French Revolution
-Cost
-Medical profession
-American Medical Association [AMA]
-Hospital administrators
-Change in health care system
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-Present system
-Delivery problems
-Resources
-Cost of living indicators
-Services
-Quality increases
-Kidney dialysis
-Price freeze
-Medical unions
-Wage demands
-Price freeze and Phase II
-Effect on hospitals
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Possible meeting with Donald H. Rumsfeld

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm.

The President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:32 pm.

Health care
-Present system in US
-Costs
-Possible meeting with Rumsfeld
-COLC
-Pay Board and Price Commission
-Minimum wage of hospital workers
-Compared to national rate
-Job classes
-Geographical differences
-Arizona
-Nurses
-Salaries
-Job market
-Utilization of Registered Nurses [RNs] and Licensed
Practitional Nurses [LPNs]
-Aid to doctors
-Legislation
-Duties
-Doctors
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Conv. No. 642-37 (cont.)


-Aid of nurses and medical technicians for secondary duties
-Rural hospitals
-Armed services
-Medical corpsmen
-Wages
-Quality of technicians
-Armed services
-Medical corpsmen
-Vietnam
-Recruiting for hospitals
-Operating rooms [ORs]


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-Medical technicians
-Medex [sp?] program
-Richardson
-Merlin K. Duval
-Cavanaugh
-Liaison with White House

Presentation of gifts by the President
-Cuff links

Kauffman, et al. left at 12:32 pm.