705–13

Conversation No. 705-13

Date: April 10, 1972
Time: 12:44 pm - 1:06 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
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US-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] relations
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin

The President's remarks at signing ceremony of Biological Weapons Convention
-Press release from Ronald L. Ziegler

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:44 pm.

-Copy for Kissinger
-Ziegler

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:50 pm.

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:44 pm.

-Delivery to the President

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:50 pm.

The President's trip to USSR
-Dobrynin
-Bilateral issues
-Arrangements
-Kremlin
-Floor plan
-Press
-Number
-Ziegler

Manolo Sanchez [?] entered at an unknown time after 12:44 pm.

Refreshment

Sanchez [?] left at an unknown time before 12:50 pm.

The President's trip to USSR
-Arrangements
-Kissinger’s telephone conversation with Dobrynin
-The President
-Dobrynin's trip to Moscow
-Kissinger’s trip to Japan
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-Cancellation
-The President
-Refreshments

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Meeting with Mrs. Irini N. Dobrynin
-Arrangements
-Attendance at James F. Byrnes's funeral
-Trip to Canada

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:44 and
12:50 pm.

[Conversation No. 705-13A]

[See Conversation No. 22-94]

[End of telephone conversation]

US-USSR relations
-Mrs. Dobrynin
-Meeting with Mrs. Nixon
-Dobrynin's trip to Moscow
-Timing

The President talked with Mrs. Nixon between 12:50 and 12:51 pm.

[Conversation no. 705-13B]

[See Conversation No. 22-95]

[End of telephone conversation]

US-USSR relations
-Dobrynin
-Kissinger’s call
-Mrs. Nixon's tea with Mrs. Dobrynin
-Arrangements
-The President's conversation with George R.S. Baring [Earl of Cromer]

Henry A. Kissinger talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:51
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and 12:59 pm.

[Conversation No. 705-13C]

[See Conversation No. 22-96]

[End of telephone conversation]

US-USSR relations
-Mrs. Nixon's tea with Mrs. Dobrynin
-The president's conversations with Dobrynin and the Earl of Cromer
-Arrangements
-Media coverage
-Trips to Canada and South Carolina
-Timing

Vietnam
-South Vietnam
-Message to Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu
-Impact on Thieu’s morale

The President's remarks at signing ceremony
-Gerard C. Smith
-Preparation
-Press coverage
-Kissinger’s view
-Preparation

Vietnam
-Richard M. Helms
-Call from Kissinger
-B-52 strike
-Timing
-Support for the President

The President's remarks at recent signing ceremony
-Arms control
-Use of force
-Responsibility for phrase
-The President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-\"Great powers\"
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-Intervention in other countries

Kissinger talked with Dobrynin at an unknown time between 12:51 and 12:59 pm.

[Conversation No. 705-13D]

[See Conversation No. 22-97]

[End of telephone conversation]

US-USSR relations
-Kissinger’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Vietnam
-Negotiations
-Public proposals
-Public pressure on US
-Response

Vietnam
-North Vietnamese offensive
-Chances of South Vietnamese success

Ziegler entered at 12:59 pm.


Press briefing
-The President's remarks at recent signing ceremony
-Gerald L. Warren
-Vietnam
-USSR
-Dobrynin
-Responsibilities of great powers
-Encouragement not to use force
-Soviet role
-Public remarks

The President's remarks at recent signing ceremony
-Kissinger’s view

Ziegler left at 1:02 pm.
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Kissinger’s schedule
-Meeting with unknown person

Vietnam


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-Soviet ships into Hanoi
-Surveillance
-Presidential approval
-Air
-Destroyers
-Soviet reaction
-Blockade
-Mines
-Preparations

Biological Warfare Convention Treaty signing ceremony
-Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA]
-The President's remarks on US-USSR relations
-Dobrynin
-Value
-Timing
-Moscow summit
-Cancellation
-Possible fall of South Vietnam
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Vietnam
-North Vietnamese offensive
-Stakes in war for US
-Compared with Boer war
-Unknown person
-British and French
-Compared with Algerian war
-Credibility of US foreign policy
-Domino theory
-Compared with Spanish civil war
-Difference of time periods
-Soviet arms
-Impact on Middle East
-Kissinger’s talk with Dobrynin
-Israel
-Possible outcome
-Impact on Berlin treaty
-[David] Kenneth Rush
-Development of treaties

US-USSR relations
-Mrs. Nixon
-Meeting with Mrs. Dobrynin
-Briefing paper
-Kissinger’s office
-Meeting with Kissinger
-Kissinger’s meeting with President and Mrs. Nixon
-Talking points
-Kissinger’s parents
-Kennedy Center

The President's schedule
-Meeting with Kissinger's parents
-Photographs
-Time
-Duration
-Reception for National Alliance of Businessmen
-Meeting with Kissinger's parents
-Louis Kissinger
-Age
-Time
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Kissinger left at 1:06 pm.