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- President Richard M. Nixon
- Henry A. Kissinger
- Alexander M. Haig
October 23, 1972
Conversation No. 806-2
Date: October 23-24, 1972
Time: 11:35 pm - 12:05 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
Kissinger’s schedule
-Recent trip
-Ronald L. Ziegler’s forthcoming briefing
-Briefing of William P. Rogers
Vietnam negotiations
-Settlement
-Kissinger's view
-Terms
4
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
- [International Commission of Control and Supervision] [ICCS]
-International conference
-Prisoner agreement
-Military aid
-Replacement provision
-Cambodia
-Lon Nol’s reaction
-Laos
-Nguyen Van Thieu resignation
-Agreement compared with the President's May 8, 1972 statement
-Guarantees
-Replacement provision
-Kissinger’s view
-Thieu
-US options
-Possible overthrow
-Role
-US losses
-Treatment of Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Delays in meeting
-Kissinger’s schedule
-[Hoang Duc Nha]
-Thieu's claim
-US staff in Vietnam
Haig’s role
-Timing of settlement
-Army deployment
-Province chiefs
-Cease-fire
-1972 election
-Possible bilateral action
-Thieu’s prospects
-New York trip
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Kissinger’s forthcoming telephone call
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Polls
-New York Daily News
-George S. McGovern
-Thieu
-Concluding the settlement
5
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Delay
-Kissinger’s recent telephone conversation with Dobrynin
-The President’s possible conflict with Hanoi or Saigon
-Choice
-Strategy
-Saigon
-1972 election
-Changes recommended by South Vietnam
-Substance
- [National Council of National Reconciliation and Concord]
-Coalition government claim
-Pham Van Dong interview with Arnaud de Borschgrave
-McGovern
-Delay
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting
-Concessions
-Prisoners
-Possible publicity
-Response
-Fine points
-North Vietnamese troops in South Vietnam
-Coalition government
-1972 election
-Rogers
-State Department
-Possible leaks
-Thieu
-U. Alexis Johnson
-William H. Sullivan
-Future
-Kissinger’s possible background briefing
-The President’s recent statement
-“Peace with Honor”
-Leaks
-Ziegler
-Settlement
-1972 election
-Successful conclusion
-Issues settled
-Timing of Announcement
-Rogers
6
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Hanoi
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Commitment
-Thieu
-Accepting agreement
-Possible meeting with the President
-Timing and purpose
-Details of recognition provisions
-Recognition of Vietcong [VG]
-Agreement’s political provisions
-Kissinger’s forthcoming background briefing
-Coalition government
-Elections
-Self-determination
-Negotiations between two South Vietnamese parties
-Thieu's position
-Cease-fire
-US commitment
-Vietnamese desire for peace
-US Army
-North Vietnamese
-Gen. Creighton W. Abrams's, Jr.’s view
-Support for agreement
-Abrams
-Kissinger’s conversation with Gen. Fredrick C. Weyand and Bunker
-Sullivan
-Souvanna Phouma
-Souvanna Phouma
-The President’s schedule
-Compared to Thieu
-View
-Report from Bangkok
-Lon Nol
-North Vietnam concessions on Cambodia
-Haig telegram
-Gratitude to the President
-Thieu
-Kissinger’s return from Phnom Penh
-Claims
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] and Soviet Union
-Cable
7
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Kissinger’s staff, Haig
-US press
-Secrecy pledge
-Meetings with province chiefs and military commanders
-Cease-fire
-Possible South Vietnamese collapse
-1972 election
-The President’s possible meeting with Thieu
-Pace
-Saigon area
-North Vietnamese forces
-Gen. Duong Van Minh’s view and efforts
-Bombing
-Extent
-20th parallel
-Irony
-Saigon
-Negotiation card
-Timing
-End of November 1972
-Changes recommended by South Vietnam
-Feasibility
The President’s schedule
-Clock
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Bill signings
-October 24, 1972 meeting
-Photographic session
-Expectations
Bunker
-Tenure
-Thieu
Thieu
-US strategy
-Kissinger's view
-Emissary
-Bunker
8
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Kissinger’s schedule
-Recent conversation with Dobrynin
-Settlement
-Saigon
The President, Kissinger and Haig left at 12:05 am.
Date: October 23-24, 1972
Time: 11:35 pm - 12:05 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
Kissinger’s schedule
-Recent trip
-Ronald L. Ziegler’s forthcoming briefing
-Briefing of William P. Rogers
Vietnam negotiations
-Settlement
-Kissinger's view
-Terms
4
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
- [International Commission of Control and Supervision] [ICCS]
-International conference
-Prisoner agreement
-Military aid
-Replacement provision
-Cambodia
-Lon Nol’s reaction
-Laos
-Nguyen Van Thieu resignation
-Agreement compared with the President's May 8, 1972 statement
-Guarantees
-Replacement provision
-Kissinger’s view
-Thieu
-US options
-Possible overthrow
-Role
-US losses
-Treatment of Ellsworth F. Bunker
-Delays in meeting
-Kissinger’s schedule
-[Hoang Duc Nha]
-Thieu's claim
-US staff in Vietnam
Haig’s role
-Timing of settlement
-Army deployment
-Province chiefs
-Cease-fire
-1972 election
-Possible bilateral action
-Thieu’s prospects
-New York trip
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Kissinger’s forthcoming telephone call
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Polls
-New York Daily News
-George S. McGovern
-Thieu
-Concluding the settlement
5
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Delay
-Kissinger’s recent telephone conversation with Dobrynin
-The President’s possible conflict with Hanoi or Saigon
-Choice
-Strategy
-Saigon
-1972 election
-Changes recommended by South Vietnam
-Substance
- [National Council of National Reconciliation and Concord]
-Coalition government claim
-Pham Van Dong interview with Arnaud de Borschgrave
-McGovern
-Delay
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting
-Concessions
-Prisoners
-Possible publicity
-Response
-Fine points
-North Vietnamese troops in South Vietnam
-Coalition government
-1972 election
-Rogers
-State Department
-Possible leaks
-Thieu
-U. Alexis Johnson
-William H. Sullivan
-Future
-Kissinger’s possible background briefing
-The President’s recent statement
-“Peace with Honor”
-Leaks
-Ziegler
-Settlement
-1972 election
-Successful conclusion
-Issues settled
-Timing of Announcement
-Rogers
6
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Hanoi
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Commitment
-Thieu
-Accepting agreement
-Possible meeting with the President
-Timing and purpose
-Details of recognition provisions
-Recognition of Vietcong [VG]
-Agreement’s political provisions
-Kissinger’s forthcoming background briefing
-Coalition government
-Elections
-Self-determination
-Negotiations between two South Vietnamese parties
-Thieu's position
-Cease-fire
-US commitment
-Vietnamese desire for peace
-US Army
-North Vietnamese
-Gen. Creighton W. Abrams's, Jr.’s view
-Support for agreement
-Abrams
-Kissinger’s conversation with Gen. Fredrick C. Weyand and Bunker
-Sullivan
-Souvanna Phouma
-Souvanna Phouma
-The President’s schedule
-Compared to Thieu
-View
-Report from Bangkok
-Lon Nol
-North Vietnam concessions on Cambodia
-Haig telegram
-Gratitude to the President
-Thieu
-Kissinger’s return from Phnom Penh
-Claims
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] and Soviet Union
-Cable
7
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Kissinger’s staff, Haig
-US press
-Secrecy pledge
-Meetings with province chiefs and military commanders
-Cease-fire
-Possible South Vietnamese collapse
-1972 election
-The President’s possible meeting with Thieu
-Pace
-Saigon area
-North Vietnamese forces
-Gen. Duong Van Minh’s view and efforts
-Bombing
-Extent
-20th parallel
-Irony
-Saigon
-Negotiation card
-Timing
-End of November 1972
-Changes recommended by South Vietnam
-Feasibility
The President’s schedule
-Clock
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Bill signings
-October 24, 1972 meeting
-Photographic session
-Expectations
Bunker
-Tenure
-Thieu
Thieu
-US strategy
-Kissinger's view
-Emissary
-Bunker
8
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Kissinger’s schedule
-Recent conversation with Dobrynin
-Settlement
-Saigon
The President, Kissinger and Haig left at 12:05 am.