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808–13
  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • Henry A. Kissinger
  • Souvanna Phouma
  • Pheng Norindr
  • William H. Sullivan
  • Alex G. Toumayan
  • White House photographer
October 27, 1972
Conversation No. 808-13

Date: October 27, 1972
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-03)

Time: 3:45 pm - 4:40 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

Vietnam settlement
-Reaction
-Kissinger’s conversation with Ronald W. Reagan
-John B. Connally
-Reagan’s views
-Malibu
-Coalition government
-Terms

Negotiations
-Pre-1972 election
-North Vietnamese statement, October 27, 1972
-Initialing of agreement, October 31, 1972
-Le Duc Tho
-November 1, 1972 meeting
-Implementation
-North Vietnamese position
-Timing
-US position
-Media relations

Forthcoming meeting between the President and Prince Souvanna Phouma
-Duration
-William H. Sullivan
-William P. Rogers
-Sullivan
-The President’s appreciation

Vietnam issue
-Louis P. Harris poll
-George S. McGovern

Phouma, Pheng Norindr, Sullivan, and Alec G. Toumayan entered at 3:48 pm; the White House
photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

Greetings
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(rev. Dec-03)


[Photographic session]

The President’s schedule
-1972 election

Vietnam settlement
-Briefing by Sullivan
-Effects on Laos
-Effects on Vietnam
-Timing of cease-fire in Laos and in Vietnam
-Phouma’s conversations with Kissinger and Rogers
-Lag between cease-fires
-Use of time by Pathet Lao
-Pathet Lao and North Vietnamese offensive
-Intention
-Reaction
-Timing
-October 15, 1972
-Military equipment
-Phouma’s conversation [David] Kenneth Rush
-T-28 bombers
-Helicopters
-Machine guns
-Anti-aircraft guns
-Purpose
-Defense of Long Thieng and Bouamlong
-North Vietnamese air attacks
-North Vietnamese air attacks
-Vientiane
-Effect of cease-fire on arms requests
-Future of Laos under cease-fire
-1961-62 agreements
-Coalition government
-Tripartite structure
-Neutralist stance
-Pathet Lao seats
-Vacancy
-Pathet Lao
-Acceptance of 1962 Geneva and Plain of Jars accords
-Basis for agreement
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-Pathet Lao adherence to the 1962 agreement
-Possible US request of Moscow and Peking
-Plain of Jars agreement
-General elections
-Integration of Pathet Lao Congress into National Congress
-Integration of forces into National Army
-Pathet Lao stance
-New government
-Tripartite government
-Laotian stance
-Vietnam negotiations
-Nature of Pathet Lao
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Soviet Union
-Divisions of Pathet Lao
-Vietnam settlement
-Relation to Laos
-Relation to Cambodia
-Laos
-Problems
-Compared to Cambodia
-Existing agreement among factions
-1961-62
-Vietnam
-Vietnam settlement
-Briefing by Sullivan
-Cease-fire compared to settlement
-Provisions of agreement
-Article 15A
-Cease-fire plus provisions of 1962 agreement
-Agreement to 1962 agreement
-Kissinger’s conversation with Sullivan
-Political compared to cease-fire solution in Laos
-Commitment of North Vietnam
-Negotiations
-North Vietnam halt to military action
-South Vietnam
-Laos
-Cambodia
-Laos
-Kissinger
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Dec-03)

-Sullivan
-Details
-1962 agreement
-Interest of parties
-Compliance
-North Vietnamese intentions
-Expansionistic policies
-Vietnamese
-Kissinger’s view
-Laotian deaths since 1962
-Military
-Civilian
-Refugees
-Refugee problem
-Numbers
-Movement
-North Vietnamese
-Intentions
-North Vietnamese intentions
-Necessity
-Effects of War
-Causalities
-South Vietnam
-Bombing
-Mining
-Laos
-Cambodia
-Pause in actions outside North Vietnam
-Use
-Soviet Union and PRC
-Intentions
-Interests
-Kissinger
-Sullivan
-Rogers
-Good faith of US
-End of war
-Intention of enemy
-Use of pause to resist communism
-US Air Force
-Thailand
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-Assistance to Laos
-Sullivan
-Congress
-US military involvement in Vietnam
-Phouma’s forthcoming conversations with world leaders
-Laos position in the world
-Effect on Southeast Asia
-US interest
-Thailand
-Cambodia
-South Vietnam
-Indonesia
-Indochina
-Malaysia
-Singapore
-US assistance
-US relationship with Southeast Asia
-American people
-Public opinion
-US leadership
-Support of independent governments
-Right to independence
-US offer of aid for Indochina reconstruction
-North Vietnamese
-Compared to Japanese
-Overcoming problems
-Surrender
-Future plans
-Laos
-Cambodia
-South Vietnam
-Rebuilding of North Vietnam
-North Vietnamese army
-Dien Bien Phu
-Defeat of French
-Gen.Vo Nguyen Giap
-Soviet intentions
-PRC
-Road construction in northern Laos
-Mekong River
-Dien Bien Phu
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-Phouma
-North Vietnamese intentions
-US intentions
-Good faith
-Exertion of influence for peace
-North Vietnamese intentions
-Skepticism

Phouma’s departure
-Car

Phouma, et al., left at 4:40 pm.
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