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809–2
  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • H. R. Haldeman
  • Stephen B. Bull
  • Ronald L. Ziegler
  • UNKNOWN
  • Rose Mary Woods
  • Henry A. Kissinger
  • Charles W. Colson
October 28, 1972
Conversation No. 809-2
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
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Date: October 28, 1972
Time: 9:10 am - 10:26 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

Watergate
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] news broadcast
-Condensation of proposed special
-Effect
-Damage
-Lyndon K. (\"Mort\") Allin’s News Summary item
-Quality of program
-Content
-Charles W. Colson’s conversation with Frank Stanton
-Political impact
-Colson’s conversation with Stanton
-Special
-News broadcast

Radio speeches
-Schedule
-\"One America\"
-National defense
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-News effect of defense speech
-Vietnam

Vietnam
-Settlement
-Proximity to 1972 election
-Political effect
-Samuel Lubell’s view
-American Broadcasting Company [ABC] interviews in Columbus,
Ohio
-Henry A. Kissinger, William P. Rogers
-Hanoi
-As campaign issue
-Administration handling
-George S. McGovern's position
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Tape Subject Log
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-Attainment of terms in 1969
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Counters to McGovern's position
-McGeorge Bundy
-George W. Ball
-W[illiam] Averell Harriman
-Howard K. Smith


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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:10 am.

President's schedule
-Ziegler

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:24 am.

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Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:10 am.
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The President’s schedule
-Ziegler
-Gerald L. Warren

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:24 am.

Legislation
-Social Security
-The President’s recent vetoes
-News coverage
-Signing, October 30, 1972
-Credit
-News coverage


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CBS news story
-Stanton
-Colson’s view concerning broadcast
-Duration
-Upcoming segment
-Feature story
-Variety

Press relations
-1967


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Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:10 am.

Ziegler's schedule
-Voting
-Telephone call

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:24 am.

Radio speeches
-Schedule
-\"One America\"
-National defense
-Amnesty
-Last minute changes
-Ziegler’s possible statement
-News worthiness
-Editing
-Vietnam
-Speculation
-\"One America\"
-Quality
-Federal spending [October 7, 1972]
William L. Safire [Philosophy of Government, October 21, 1972]
-American Farmer [October 27, 1972]
-Education [October 25, 1972]
-Crime [October 15, 1972]
-Urban affairs [November 1, 1972]
-Foreign policy [November 4, 1972]
-Goals [November 5, 1972]
-Television spot
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Ziegler talked with Haldeman between 9:24 am and 9:27 am.

[Conversation No. 809-2A]

[See Conversation No. 32-78]

[End of telephone conversation]

Announcement
-Ziegler's forthcoming call to Warren

The President’s schedule
-Camp David
-Surrogates meeting
-Camp David
-Residence
-Auditorium
-Women
-Duration

Kissinger’s schedule
-Surrogates briefing on Vietnam
-Political content
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Necessity
-Haig
-Paul C. Warnke
-Ethnic press briefing
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)


The President’s schedule
-Ethnic press, October 27, 1972
-Value
-Timing
-Benefit
-Cultivation of contacts
-Poles, Italians, Puerto Ricans, Swedes, Danes
-Contact after the election


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Watergate
-CBS program
-Administration's position
-Editors
-1972 election
-Truth
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Post-election strategy
-Money
-James Keogh’s book [President Nixon and the Press]
-Edith Efron’s book [The News Twisters]
-Propaganda war

The President left and Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:27 am.

Speech

The President’s schedule
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Bull’s telephone conversation with the President, October 27, 1972
-Speech
-Camp David
-Speech
-Speech
-Timing
-Western audiences
-Andrews Air Force Base

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:36 am. The President entered at an unknown time before
9:36 am.

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 9:27 am and 9:36 am.

[Conversation No. 809-2B]

Radio speeches
-Schedule
-\"One America\"
-National defense
-Follow-up apparatus

[End of telephone conversation]

Radio speeches
-Schedule
-Follow-up apparatus


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Rose Mary Woods entered at 9:36 am.


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Speeches
-Changes
-Timing
-Changes

Kissinger entered at 9:37 am.


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Woods left at 9:39 am.

Vietnam
-Story of negotiations
-Kissinger’s efforts
-News summary
-Political charges by opposition
-ABC interviews
-Columbus, Ohio
-Kissinger’s possible surrogates briefing
-Kissinger's presentation
-Haig
-Rogers
-The President’s role
-Political nature
-Warnke
-Newspaper leaks
-Rogers
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Political points
-Points to be made
-Colson
-Political nature
-Lubell
-Settlement
-Timing
-The President's letter to Kissinger
-Use
-Hanoi
-Trip
-Publicity
-Time
-Jerrold L. Schecter
-Political charges by opposition
-Columbus, Ohio
-Reaction by administration
-Kissinger’s role
-Rogers's possible presentation to surrogates
-Substance of proposal
-Subtleties
-George S. McGovern's position compared to the Administration’s
-Substance of agreement
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Cease-fire
-Communist government in South Vietnam
-Contrast to McGovern's position
-POW’s
-Withdrawal
-Disarmament of South Vietnam
-Peace with surrender compared to peace with honor
-1972 election
-Priority of making right kind of settlement
-Terms
-POWs
-Cease-fire
-Non-Communist government in Vietnam
-Publication of agreement
-McGovern's stance
-Political distortion
-Public relations
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Presentation of administration's position
-The President’s schedule

People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Grain deal announcement
-The President’s radio address on the American Farmer
-Agriculture Department
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Earl L. Butz
-PRC note
-Consequences
-Price's staff
-Instruction to Haldeman
-Butz

Speeches
-Route of speeches
-[National Security Council] [NSC]
-Agriculture Department
-Information channels
-Change of speeches by the President
-Price’s responsibility
-Check of speeches
-Staff
-Problems
-National defense speech
-Timing
-Changes

Warnke briefing
-Haig
-Kissinger
-Press briefing
-Information in briefing
-Amount of information
-The President’s 1968 briefing
-McGovern
-Offer of briefing

Vietnam
-North Vietnamese
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Meeting with Kissinger
-Press
-Timing of settlement signing
-November 1, 1972
-Consultation with the President and Saigon
-Acceptance by South Vietnamese
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Marilyn Berger of Washington Post
-Liberals
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Chiang Kai-Shek
-Berger
-Public opinion
-Berger
-Nixon compared to McGovern
-Non-Communist coalition
-Surrender
-Kissinger handling
-Surrogates briefing
-The President’s capability
-Haig
-Politicization

Woods entered at an unknown time after 9:39 am.

Speech changes

Woods left at an unknown before 10:12 am.

Foreign policy
-Kissinger's call to Jay Lovestone, October 27, 1972
-Forthcoming meeting
-George Meany
-Foreign policy briefings
-Meany
-Purchase of national radio time
-Timing
-Possible endorsement of McGovern
-Briefing
-Haig
-Postponement
-Lovestone
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)


Vietnam
-Media and press relations
-Marvin L. Kalb
-Washington Post
-New York Times
-The President's instruction to Kissinger
-Washington Post
-Opinion makers
-Max Frankel
-Howard K. Smith's broadcast
-Kissinger
-Bundy
-Timing of agreement
-Kissinger's possible conversation with Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
-John W. Chancellor
-Watergate
- [Arnold] Eric Sevareid
-Kissinger's recent talk with Sevareid
-1972 election
-Timing of agreement
-1972 election
-Possible public perception
-Politics
-Bombing halt
-1972 election
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-US choice of peace strategies
-Hypothetical effect
-Hanoi's public acceptance of May 8, 1972 plan
-Effect on 1972 election
-May 8th, 1972 Plan

1972 campaign
-Magnification of problems
-Close elections
-McGovern supporters’ fear
-Reality of election
-Smear campaign
-Effect on election
-Election prospects
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-States
-Popular vote
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-1952 election
-Administration enemies
-McGovern
-Press
-University professors
-Clergy
-Quality of criticism
-Settlement of war
-Timing
-Political charges
-Kissinger’s briefing
-Election week rhetoric
-CBS news broadcast on Watergate
-Possible hour long special
-Television commentators request for Kissinger interview
-Cronkite
-New York
-Use of interview
-Attribution
-Commentary
-Public appearances of the President in Kentucky and West Virginia
-Network coverage
-Benefits
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Network coverage
-Audiences

Vietnam
-November 3, 1969 speech by the President
-Anniversary
-May 8, 1972 decision
-Importance
-Announcement
-Timing
-Demonstrations
-Reasons
-Mining, aircraft alert
-Soviet Union
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-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]

Radio speeches
-Number
-Time involved
-Education
-Los Angeles Times coverage

Vietnam
-Settlement
-South Vietnam
-Nguyen Van Thieu’s possible meeting with the President
-Post-1972 election strategy
-Thieu
-North Vietnam publication of settlement
-Settlement delay
-Thieu
-Letter from the President to Thieu
-Treatment of the President, Kissinger, Rogers
-Letter from the President
-The President’s friendship and support
-Thieu’s public statements
-Effect on US public support
-Previous letter
-The President’s speeches
-Terms
-US military support
-Departure
-Degree

Kissinger’s schedule

Kissinger left at 10:12 am.

Surrogates briefing on Vietnam
-Kissinger’s view
-Image
-Rogers's delivery of briefing
-Compared to Kissinger
-Political points
-1972 election
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-The President’s role
-Effect


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Colson entered at 10:15 am.

Surrogates briefing on Vietnam
-The President’s role
-Rogers
-Kissinger
-Rogers
-Colson’s forthcoming telephone call
-Handling of politics
-Points
-No communist government in South Vietnam
-Guaranteed return of POW's
-Cease-fire
-McGovern program
-Surrender
-POW's
-Need for aggressive campaigning
-Purpose

Compilation of McGovern's quotes
-Shriver's quotes
-Use of quotes

Press relations
-Status
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Tape Subject Log
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-McGovern election prospects
-Pennsylvania polls
-Interpretation of poll movement
-Poll points related to votes
-Columbus, Ohio
-Timing of poll
-Kissinger's briefing
-Undecided voters
-Follow-up
-Kincaid [sp?] [First name unknown]
-ABC reporter
-Voter opinion
-Political aspect of Vietnam settlement
-Undecided voters
-John A. Scali
-McGovern support
-Louis P. Harris poll
-Harris’s network availability
-CBS news broadcast on Watergate
-Stanton

Watergate
-CBS
-Buchanan
-Distribution to editors
-1972 election
-Martin S. Hayden
-Statements
-International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-The President’s press conferences
-Grain deal, ITT
-Watergate
-Truth
-White House involvement in scandals
-White paper
-Distribution
-Hayden
-Paul Miller
-Gannett
-Barron’s
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(rev. Nov-03)

-Mailing
-Media support for McGovern
-Establishment
-Grain deal
-Cronkite
-News spot
-Treatment of issue

Press relations
-McGovern's tactics
-Bombing
-Robert J. Dole's attack
-Forthcoming appearance on Face the Nation
-McGovern background
-Heckling
-1960 campaign tactics
-Insult to Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-The President in New York City
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Cooperation of media
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Student demonstrations
-Accidental compared to intentional nature
-Statue of Liberty incident
-San Francisco incident
-1960 compared to 1972 campaign
-Public perception
-Poll

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.

The President’s schedule
-President's radio speech
-Timing

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:26 am.


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Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:15 am.

The President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:26 am.



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CBS
-Colson’s forthcoming telephone call to Stanton

The President, Haldeman and Colson left at 10:26 am.
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