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Conversation No. 854-21

Date: February 13, 1973
Time: 11:43 am - 12:25 pm
Location: Oval Office
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The President met with John A. Scali and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft.

United Nations [UN]
-Scali’s departure
-Credentials
-Kurt Waldheim
-India
-Pakistan
-Bangladesh
-Compared with U Thant
-Role in Vietnam
-Thant
-Communist Bloc tilt
-Finances
-US contributions
-Scali’s role
-US Congress
-US concerns
-Terrorism
-Lack of resolution
-Waldheim
-New members
-Africa
-Failures
-Accomplishments
-Environment
-Peacekeeping roles
-Relations with US
-Fairness
-Thant
-Edward R. G. Heath [?]
-Vietnam

Middle East
-Two approaches
-Open approach
-William P. Rogers
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-Private contacts
-Soviet Union
-Egyptians
-Golda Meir
-Confidentiality
-Merits of each approach

[Tape has discontinuity of unknown cause]

UN
-Scali’s role
-Defense of US interests
-US foreign policy
-Scali’s television [TV] appearance
-UN framework
-US objectives reflected in UN actions
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Soviet Union
-UN cooperation
-Scali’s pragmatism
-Scali staff
-Changes
-Black ambassadors
-Woman ambassadors
-United States Information Agency [USIA] background
-Black staffers
-UN make-up
-Quotas
-Qualifications
-UN mission
-Living, expense allowances
-Cost of living in New York City
-Affluent staffers
-John J. Rooney
-Paris
-L. Dean Brown
-Ambassador to Jordan
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-[Hussein, King of Jordan] Hussein ibn Talal
-Financial resources
-UN mission staff
-Possible move to New York City
-Cost of living
-Compared to Washington, DC
-Children
-Education
-Living allowances increase
-Rooney
-George H. W. Bush
-President’s support
-Scali’s approval
-Scali’s background
-View of US President
-Scali’s response
-Fairness
-Resolutions
-Usefulness to larger, industrialized nations
-Great Britain and France
-Increased stature
-Accomplishments, successes
-Waldheim
-Peace conference on Vietnam
-Handling
-Fairness
-Prestige
-Prejudice toward US
-South Vietnam
-Meeting with President
-Conditions
-Arrangements

Scali’s appreciation for President’s support
-Controversy
-Assurance
-Rogers
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-Henry A. Kissinger
-Scali as newspaperman

Prisoners of war [POWs] return
-Deplaning
-Statements
-Neil Armstrong
-Statement on the moon
-Col. Robinson Risner
-Photograph in Washington Star
-Associated Prss [AP] wire
-Effect on country
-Draft dodgers, deserters
-POWs’ coverage
-POWs’ wives
-Collaborators
-Capt. Jeremiah A. Denton, Jr.
-Number
-Nature of actions
-Denton
-Years in captivity
-Heroism
-Nation’s pride
-Vietnam settlement
-Political support for President
-Possibility of release
-Effect of bombing
-Risner
-Wife
-James A. Mulligan, Jr.
-President’s conversation with Mulligan’s wife
-Admiration of President
-Credit for President
-Support for George S. McGovern
-Contributions
-Reaction to unilateral withdrawal
-Pride
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-Peace
-Value of sacrifice
-Risner

Vietnam settlement
-Peace
-South Vietnam
-Chance to survive
-Laos, Cambodia
-Failures of Communism
-PRC
-Eastern Europe
-Romania
-Poland

Scali’s mission to UN in New York City
-Apartment
-Henry Cabot Lodge
-President’s visit
-Meeting with Scali
-Bush
-Charles W. Yost
-Misconduct of American foreign policy
-Vietnam settlement

Henry Fairlie’s book on the Presidency
-Fairlie’s political orientation
-Kennedy family
-Public relations [PR] in politics
-President’s recommendations
-Foreign policy
-Analysis
-Expectations abroad
-Crisis management

UN
-Security Council meeting
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-Meeting in Panama
-Economic and social problems in Latin America
-Panama Canal negotiations
-Chile
-Multinational corporations
-Complaints
-Cuba
-Guantanamo
-Puerto Rico
-Peru
-Tuna boats
-Cuba
-US foreign policy
-Ferdinand E. Marcos
-Philippines
-Internal policies
-Communist countries
-Other nations’ policies toward US
-Genocide
-Aid to dictators
-Eastern European countries
-Yugoslavia
-Romania
-Poland
-PRC, Cuba, Soviet Union
-Internal policies compared to foreign policy
-Cuba
-Policy of subversion and aggression
-US
-US Allies
-Shanghai Communique
-Soviet Union
-Change in relationship
-Fidel Castro
-Salvador Allende Gossens
-US-Mexico relations
-Criticism of US
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-Luis Alvarez Echeverria
-Dealings with Allende
-Criticism of US
-US-Indonesia relations
-Spiro T. Agnew’s comments
-Lt. Gen. T. N. J. Suharto
-Adam Malik
-State Department
-Suharto
-Neutrality
-Military aid from US
-Criticism of US
-Agnew’s response
-Congressional reaction
-Criticism of US
-Fairness
-International monetary situation
-Pierre E. Trudeau
-Echeverria
-Congress
-Cut of aid
-Mexico
-Canada
-Balance of trade

Scali’s role at UN
-Double standard
-Fairness
-Controversy
-Rogers’s statement
-Time
-James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
-Righteous indignation
-TV coverage

Scali and Scowcroft left at 12:25 pm.
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