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937–13
- President Richard M. Nixon
- Roy L. Ash
June 12, 1973
Conversation No. 937-13
Date: June 12, 1973
Time: 10:30 am - 11:15 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Roy L. Ash.
National economy
-President’s forthcoming meeting
-Arthur F. Burns
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Burns’s view
-Taxes
-President’s June 11, 1973 meeting with George P. Shultz, Herbert Stein, and John
T. Dunlop
-Ash’s and William Simon’s views
-Shultz, Stein
-Dunlop’s role
-John B. Connally’s possible role
The President talked with Howard Morgan between 10:34 am and 10:37 am.
[Conversation No. 937-13A]
[Begin telephone conversation]
[See Conversation No. 40-26]
[End telephone conversation]
White House staffing
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Role
-Melvin R. Laird
-Governors
National economy
-President’s June 12, 1973 meeting with Labor-Management Committee
-Stein, Shultz
-George Meany, Leonard Woodcock
-Partisanship
-Public statements compared to private statements
-Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Paul Hall
-Support for President’s actions
-Food prices
-Connally’s views
-Ash’s and Simon’s views
-Possible freeze
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Applicability
-P.L. 480 [Public Law 480]
-Rent, interest, profits, wages
-Follow-up
-Food
-Duration
-Use by administration
-Conditioning of public opinion
-Connally’s possible role
-Cabinet
-Congress
-Ash’s views
-Effect on Business
-Price reaction
-Stock Market
-Views of Stein, Shultz, and Dunlap
-Controlled economy through 1974
-Election
-Food prices
-Possible freeze
-Inevitability of further economic controls
-Follow-up
-Simon
-Philosophies
-Further economic controls
-Risk
-Phase III
-Congress’s possible action
-Meany
-90 day freeze
-Phase II
-Veto override
-Polls
-Louis P. Harris
-Congressional spending
-Use by administration
-Mental conditioning of populace
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Cabinet
-Compared to budget spending battles
-Connally
Status
-Problems of flat economy
-Inflation, no growth
-Possible freeze
-Effects
-Ash’s views
-Conversations with Shultz and Stein
-Position change
-Watergate
-Connally’s role
-Shultz
-Laird’s possible role with Congress
-Salesmanship
-Shultz
-Possible freeze
-Follow-up
-Food prices
-Agriculture Department projections concerning crop yields
-Peter M. Flanigan’s analysis
-President’s forthcoming speech
-Foods prices
-President’s forthcoming speech
-Budget
-Forthcoming Congressional actions
-Possible vetoes
-Congressional override
-Need for popular support
-Public support for New Hampshire Governor
-Health, Education, Welfare
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger’s view
-William E. Timmons’s view
-Connally’s suggestion
-Public opinion
-Taxes
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Voting
-Defense
-Taxes
-Veterans
-Education
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s view
-Harlow, Laird
-Social programs
-Ash’s role
-Schools, hospitals, elderly, blacks
National economy
-President’s forthcoming meeting
-Possible freeze
-Duration
-Ash’s view
-Economic data
-President’s forthcoming speech
-Certainty with some options
-President’s program
-Use by administration
-Salesmanship by administration officials
-Mental conditioning of populace
-Connally
Ash
-Role on staff
-Timing around Watergate
Watergate
-Allegations concerning President
-Ervin Committee hearings
-John W. Dean, III
-White House response
-Immunity
-Archibald Cox’s views
-Effect on possible trials
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-Popular support
-Ash’s conversation with Edgar F. Magnin in California
President’s schedule
Ash left at 11:15 am.
Date: June 12, 1973
Time: 10:30 am - 11:15 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Roy L. Ash.
National economy
-President’s forthcoming meeting
-Arthur F. Burns
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Burns’s view
-Taxes
-President’s June 11, 1973 meeting with George P. Shultz, Herbert Stein, and John
T. Dunlop
-Ash’s and William Simon’s views
-Shultz, Stein
-Dunlop’s role
-John B. Connally’s possible role
The President talked with Howard Morgan between 10:34 am and 10:37 am.
[Conversation No. 937-13A]
[Begin telephone conversation]
[See Conversation No. 40-26]
[End telephone conversation]
White House staffing
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Role
-Melvin R. Laird
-Governors
National economy
-President’s June 12, 1973 meeting with Labor-Management Committee
-Stein, Shultz
-George Meany, Leonard Woodcock
-Partisanship
-Public statements compared to private statements
-Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Paul Hall
-Support for President’s actions
-Food prices
-Connally’s views
-Ash’s and Simon’s views
-Possible freeze
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Applicability
-P.L. 480 [Public Law 480]
-Rent, interest, profits, wages
-Follow-up
-Food
-Duration
-Use by administration
-Conditioning of public opinion
-Connally’s possible role
-Cabinet
-Congress
-Ash’s views
-Effect on Business
-Price reaction
-Stock Market
-Views of Stein, Shultz, and Dunlap
-Controlled economy through 1974
-Election
-Food prices
-Possible freeze
-Inevitability of further economic controls
-Follow-up
-Simon
-Philosophies
-Further economic controls
-Risk
-Phase III
-Congress’s possible action
-Meany
-90 day freeze
-Phase II
-Veto override
-Polls
-Louis P. Harris
-Congressional spending
-Use by administration
-Mental conditioning of populace
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Cabinet
-Compared to budget spending battles
-Connally
Status
-Problems of flat economy
-Inflation, no growth
-Possible freeze
-Effects
-Ash’s views
-Conversations with Shultz and Stein
-Position change
-Watergate
-Connally’s role
-Shultz
-Laird’s possible role with Congress
-Salesmanship
-Shultz
-Possible freeze
-Follow-up
-Food prices
-Agriculture Department projections concerning crop yields
-Peter M. Flanigan’s analysis
-President’s forthcoming speech
-Foods prices
-President’s forthcoming speech
-Budget
-Forthcoming Congressional actions
-Possible vetoes
-Congressional override
-Need for popular support
-Public support for New Hampshire Governor
-Health, Education, Welfare
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger’s view
-William E. Timmons’s view
-Connally’s suggestion
-Public opinion
-Taxes
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Voting
-Defense
-Taxes
-Veterans
-Education
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s view
-Harlow, Laird
-Social programs
-Ash’s role
-Schools, hospitals, elderly, blacks
National economy
-President’s forthcoming meeting
-Possible freeze
-Duration
-Ash’s view
-Economic data
-President’s forthcoming speech
-Certainty with some options
-President’s program
-Use by administration
-Salesmanship by administration officials
-Mental conditioning of populace
-Connally
Ash
-Role on staff
-Timing around Watergate
Watergate
-Allegations concerning President
-Ervin Committee hearings
-John W. Dean, III
-White House response
-Immunity
-Archibald Cox’s views
-Effect on possible trials
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. June-2012)
Conversation No. 937-13 (cont’d)
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-Popular support
-Ash’s conversation with Edgar F. Magnin in California
President’s schedule
Ash left at 11:15 am.