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Conversation No. 292-11

Date: October 19, 1971
Time: 3:05 pm - 5:05 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman, Alexander M. Haig, Jr. Casper W. (“Cap”)
Weinberger, and George P. Shultz.

John B. Connally's health

Federal budget
-School lunches
-Criteria

Pending legislation
-Michael J. Mansfield amendment
-Leslie C. Arends actions
-Vote

Federal budget Fiscal Year [FY] 1972
-Deficit

FY 1973 budget

The President's previous meeting with Republican Congressmen
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-Hugh Scott
-Clark MacGregor
-Mansfield
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Public relations
-Congress adjournments
-Timing
-White House position

Congress's schedule
-Adjournment
-Revenue sharing and welfare reform
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Letter to the President
-Ways and Means Committee staff's efforts
-Russell B. Long’s position
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-White House public relations efforts
-The President's possible speech
-Spiro T. Agnew's speech on revenue sharing

Welfare reform
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Long and Wallace F. Bennett
-Possible experiment
-Abraham A. Ribicoff's action
-Long’s view

FY 1973 budget
-Defense spending
-Revenue sharing
-Alternatives
-The President's economic program
-Outlay management
-Shultz’s assessment
-Defense spending
-Revenue spending

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:05 pm.

Refreshments
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:05 pm.

FY 1973 budget
-Alternatives
-Outlay management
-Revenues
-Economy
-Arthur F. Burns's efforts
-Money supply
-Effect
-General revenue sharing
-Burns's role
-Money supply
-Economy and spending
-Roles of private and public sectors
-2nd and 3rd quarter figures
-Pending legislation
-Government spending
-Strategy
-Full employment
-Pending legislation
-General revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-Revenue sharing
-White House public relations efforts
-Strategy

The President's domestic programs
-Political value
-Environmental programs
-Revenue sharing
-White House strategy
-Congress
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Supporters
-Welfare reform
-Daniel P. Moynihan
-Alternatives
-Property tax
-Value Added Tax [VAT]
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-Revenue sharing
-Political value
-Welfare reform
-FY 1973 budget
-Revenue sharing
-Timing
-The President's possible message to Congress
-Revenue sharing
-FY 1973 budget
-Political issue
-Alternatives
-Property tax relief
-Education
-Property tax relief

FY 1973 budget
-Full employment
-Revenue sharing
-Lobbying
-Mills's possible action
-Possible veto
-Congressional action
-Administration's efforts since 1969
-Burns
-Possible veto
-Size
-Revenue sharing
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Congress
-The President's possible actions
-Weinberger's possible actions
-The President's possible actions
-Congress
-Welfare reform
-Legislative prospects
-Long
-President’s conversation
-White House strategy
-Long and Bennett's possible action
-Ribicoff
-Effect on federal employment
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-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Family Assistance Plan
-Long's possible meeting with Connally

National economy
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Louisiana sugar cane growers
-Long
-Unemployment Insurance Bill
-Shultz's conversation with Long
-Job corps center in St. Louis

FY 1973 budget
-Revenue sharing
-Welfare reform
-The President’s view
-Congressional action
-Education
-Property tax reform
-Administration's philosophy of government
-Benefits
-Post practices
-1973 enactment of sales tax
-Special revenue sharing
-Model cities
-Urban renewal
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Governors support
-Legislative prospects
-Samuel L. Devine
-The President’s position
-Congressional appropriations
-Education
-Education
-Ehrlichman’s view
-VAT
-Benefits
-State school support programs
-Court decisions
-California
-Taxes
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-National defense
-Melvin R. Laird's statement
-Henry A. Kissinger's views
-Spending level
-Spending levels
-National Security Council [NSC] view
-Navy
-Interceptor Aircraft
-Safeguard Missiles
-Ground Forces
-Aircraft Carriers
-Air Wings
-Ground forces level
-Previous NSC meeting
-Air craft carriers
-Air wings
-Haig’s view
-Base closings
-Possible political effect
-Effect on national economy
-California
-Other program spending
-Possible increase in defense spending
-Model cities
-Shultz’s view
-Weinberger’s view
-Laird
-David Packard’s view
-Previous meeting with Shultz
-Laird's views
-Navy
-Expenditures in California
-Employment
-Peter M. Flanigan's analysis
-Air sorties in Vietnam
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM]
-Effect on national economy
-Effectiveness
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Soviet of Union
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-Modernization of army
-Effect on national economy
-Shultz’s view
-Effectiveness of spending
-Politics
-Laird's views
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Effectiveness of spending
-Defense Department's fiscal guidance
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] budget exercises
-Kissinger, Packard, Shultz
-Gardiner L. Tucker
-Kenneth W. Dam
-Shultz’s view
-Kissinger's role with Laird
-NSC views
-Obligatory authority
-Jackson's possible views
-Laird's role in Defense Department
-Expenditures on human resources
-Defense expenditures
-Decreases
-Opposition
-USSR
-Military plans and activities
-Offensive capability
-US response
-Air force
-Haig’s view of readiness
-SALT
-Effect on budget
-Multiple Independently-targeted Reentry Vehicles [MIRV]

SALT
-First strike capability
-MIRV, Polaris, Minuteman
-Deterrence effect
-Haig’s view
-Negotiations
-Budget
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1973 budget
-National defense
-Laird's forthcoming meeting with Kissinger and Haig
-Air power
-New initiatives
-Existing programs
-Veto strategy
-Outlay management
-New initiatives
-Research and development
-Domestic issues
-Political value
-Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy
-Property tax
-Aid to parochial schools
-Constitutionality
-Tax reform
-VAT
-Revenue sharing
-Joseph A. Califano's article in New York Times
-Research and development
-Congress's possible role
-Veto strategy
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] extension
-1972 campaign
-Democratic candidates
-Water quality bill
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Political analysis
-The President's schedule
-Haig
-John N. Mitchell
-Robert J. Dole
-Charles W. Colson
-Connally
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Laird
-William P. Rogers

National growth policy
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FY 1973 budget
-New initiatives
-Effect
-Education
-Research and development
-Tax increase
-Mills
-VAT
-Balance
-Full employment
-Taxes
-The President's schedule
-Connally
-Unknown people
-Veto strategy
-OEO extension
-State of the Union message
-Strategy
-House of Representatives
-Child development program
-Strategy
-Richard H. Poff, Devine, John J. Rhodes
-Taxes
-The President's schedule
Connally
-Treasury's previous proposals
-Parochial school aid
-Constitutionality

Parochial school aid
-Possible constitutional amendment
-National Education Association [NEA]
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham

1973 budget
-Parochial school aid
-Cost
-VAT
-Voucher program
-Busing
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School buses


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The President's schedule

International narcotics control
-Defense Department's cooperation

Pentagon Papers
-Defense Department damage assessment
-Daniel Ellsberg case
-Adm. Noel Gayler's views
-Ehrlichman's forthcoming call to Laird
-International narcotics
-NSC

1973 budget
-Full employment balance
-Congress's schedule

Congress
-Forthcoming vote
-The President's meeting with Congressmen, October 19, 1971
-Vietnam

Vietnam
-Mansfield resolution
-Soviet Union Summit
-PRC Summit
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-Administration policy
-Congress
-The President’s view
-Mansfield resolution
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-The President’s assessment
-Negotiations
-Options
-Effect on POWs
-Casualties
-Motives of the President's opponents
-Nguyen Van Thieu's election
-Effect
-North Vietnamese casualties
-Possible results of communist takeover
-The President's conversation with the bishop of Da Nang
-POWS
-Possible raid
-Mansfield amendment
-Negotiations
-Possible bombing
-Cambodia, Laos
-Soviet Union, PRC
-Actions of the President's opponents
-W. Averill Harriman
-William V. Shannon's October 19, 1971 editorial
-John F. Kennedy
-Dean Rusk
-Schedule
-Bay of Pigs

Shannon

Life

New York Times
-Ehrlichman's possible actions

Ehrlichman, et al. left at 5:05 pm.
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