357–5

Conversation No. 357-5

Date: September 19, 1972
Time: 1:45 pm - 3:10 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.


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1972 campaign
-Issues
-National defense, amnesty, Vietnam, Watergate, grain
and poverty
-George S. McGovern
-National security as an issue
-Melvin R. Laird
-John D. Ehrlichman, H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, Colson
-Meet the Press appearance
-Various campaign issues
-Focus
-Emphasis on selected issues

Amnesty, Vietnam
-McGovern
-Social Security
-Administration response

Louis P. Harris

The President talked with Ehrlichman between 1:53 pm and 1:54 pm.

[Conversation No. 357-5A]

[See Conversation No. 30-5]

[End of telephone conversation]

Issues during the campaign
-Amnesty
-News summary
-The President's position compared with McGovern
-Presentation of issue
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
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-George Meany
-Press coverage
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] television and Columbia
Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Amnesty
-Amnesty
-McGovern
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Catholic vote
-Aid for parochial schools
-Administration position
-McGovern
-Public relations efforts
-Amnesty and marijuana as an issue
-Youth vote
-Youth
-[Meany] quote
-Poll questions answers and results
-McGovern's supporters lifestyle
-McGovern's position in poll results
-Harris’ view
-Amnesty issue
-Domestic Council staff's perception
-Impact
-Other issues
-Administration spokesmen

Appearance before United Steel workers by James D. Hodgson

Campaign issues
-Amnesty and abortion
-The President's position

The President talked with Ehrlichman between 2:01 pm and 2:02 pm.

[Conversation No. 357-5B]

[See Conversation No. 30-6]

[End of telephone conversation]
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McGovern
-Issues
-The President’s view
-John N. Mitchell’s view
-Amnesty
-Possible Congressional action
-Strategy


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The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 2:02 pm and 2:29
pm.

[Conversation No. 357-5C]

Return of call

[End of telephone conversation]


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Campaign issues
-McGovern
-Foreign policy
-Foreign policy
-Campaign strategy
-William P. Rogers
-Foreign Affairs Council
-Laird
-Today show
-Theodore H. White
-Youth
-Unknown person
-The President's speech to International
Monetary Fund [IMF]
-Laird
-Public statements in support of the President
-Schedule
-Rogers
-Forthcoming conversation with Colson and Rogers
-The President's conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
-Public statements made in campaign
-News coverage
-New York Times, Washington Post
-Abram F. Chayes
-Newsweek
-Editorial
-Rogers

US foreign policies
-US strength
-Position in world
-Public relations efforts
-Laird
-Connally
-Broadcast
-Timing


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Campaign finances
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Statement
-Eunice Kennedy Shriver
-Wire story
-Clark MacGregor
-Press conference
-Financial disclosure
-Relationship with Kennedy family
-McGovern
-Kennedy family
-Family financial information
-Incomes
-Trust funds
-Servants
-Automobiles
-Incomes in general
-Running for public office


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-Income levels
-Steelworkers


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-Taxes
-Previous income
-McGovern's income

1972 campaign
-McGovern's campaign
-Question of campaign financing violations
-Robert J. Dole

Kissinger entered at 2:29 pm.

-Number of campaign contribution violations
-Stewart R. Mott
-Reports

US foreign policies
-Letters to Edward R.G. Heath, Georges J.R. Pompidou, Willy Brandt, and
Leonid I. Brezhnev
-National Security Council [NSC] staff
-Presidential trips
-Visits to US
-Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
-Maurice Schumann
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-Brezhnev and Camp David
-Letter to Brezhnev about hydrofoil gift to the President
-Andrei A. Gromyko
-Trip to US
-Itinerary
-Rogers
-The President's coinciding trip
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Brandt
-Letters from the President
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

Kissinger left at 2:34 pm.

1972 campaign
-Harris poll
-Economy
-Comparison to Dwight D. Eisenhower's administration
-Confidence
-Comparison of issues
-1956 election, 1954 recession
-George Humphrey
-1958 recession
-Industrial production
-Housing starts
-Stock market
-George H. Gallup poll
-Stock market
-Individuals following the stock market
-New York Times, Washington Post, news magazines
-McGovern


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CBS
-Possible action

News story
-Effect
-The President’s instructions
-Colson

The President's schedule
-Oval Office

Colson left at 3:10 pm.