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- President Richard M. Nixon
- Charles W. Colson
- White House operator
- Ronald L. Ziegler
- Raymond K. Price
- H. R. Haldeman
November 1, 1972
Conversation No. 391-9
Date: November 1, 1972
Time: 4:25 pm - 5:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
-16-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with John Cardinal Krol
-Prayers for peace, administration
-Krol’s recent press conference
-Vietnam War
-Krol’s position
-Tone
-Nguyen Van Thieu
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
-1972 campaign
-Clark MacGregor
-Far right wing
-Thieu
-Credibility
1972 election
-John G. Schmitz
-Press coverage
-Television [TV]
-Vietnam settlement
-Betrayal
-Effect
-Texas
-California
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Texas
-Data
-Contract
-Treasury Department
-Polls
-Analysis
-The President’s hard line
-Uncertainty
-Results
-Samples
-Shifts
-17-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Louis P. Harris poll
-Vietnam issue
-Polls
-Newspaper coverage
-New York Daily News
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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The President talked with the White House operator at 4:32 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9A]
[See Conversation No. 32-122]
[End of telephone conversation]
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Polls
-New York Daily News
-Sample
-Results
-Changes
-New York
-Projections
-State
-Compared to Sindlinger poll
-Sample
-Controls
-Unintelligible name [?]
-Unintelligible name [?]
-Harris
-Richard M. Scammon
-Accuracy
-Rochester
-18-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Syracuse
-New York
-Suburbs
-Areas of suburbs
-Paul Hall
-Brooklyn
-Massachusetts
-Latest results
-George S. McGovern
-Blue collar vote
-The President’s support
-Suburban Boston
-Louise Day Hicks
-The President’s chances
-Hecklers in Boston [?]
-Response
-MacGregor
-Robert J. Dole
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Demonstrators
-Campaign offices
-McGovern
-Vietnam settlement
-Signing
-Hanoi
-Campaigning
-Quality
-Frank F. Mankiewicz
-Briefings of reporters
-David S. Broder
-Article
-Analysis of McGovern’s campaign
-Predictions
-State votes
-McGovern
-Jim Curry [?]
-Chances of victory
-Harris polls
-Analysis
-George C. Wallace
-19-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Impact on vote
-Third party efforts
-1956 election
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Predictions
-Press coverage
-Vietnam War
-Bombing pause
-Unions
-Members
-Democrats
-Votes for McGovern
-California
-Money
-McGovern supporters
-Demonstration
-John B. Connally
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:40 pm.
Greetings
The President’s schedule
-Announcement
-Release
-New Mexico
-Las Cruces
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-The President’s trips
-North Carolina
-New Mexico
-20-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-California
-States
-Number
-California
-Michigan
-Pennsylvania
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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The President’s schedule
-Press conference
-Timing
-1972 election
-The President’s forthcoming trip to California
-November 4, 5, 1972 newspapers
-Watergate
-Return
-Press pool
-1972 election
-Closing of polls
-Evening news
-The President’s comments
-Duration
-Advisability
-Possible leak
-Ziegler’s possible announcement
-1972 campaign
-Vietnam War
-Social contact with press
-Watergate
-Meetings with reporters
-Theodore H. White
-Garnet D. (“Jack”) Horner
-November 4, 1972 departure for California
-Return from California, November 7, 1972
-Horner
-Nicholas P. Thimmesch
-21-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Forrest Boyd
-Rationale
-Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
-William S. White
-Thimmesch
-Horner
-Theodore White
-Horner
-Timing
-Watergate
-Horner, Thimmesch
-Ground rules
-Boyd
-Timing
-1972 election
-Horner
-Return from California
-Theodore White
-Aldo (“Elbow”) Beckman
-Chicago Tribune
-Social contact with press
Raymond K. Price, Jr. entered at 4:48 pm.
The President’s forthcoming speech, “Look to the Future”
-Draft
Ziegler left at 4:50 pm.
1972 campaign
-Hecklers in Boston
-Compared to Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson incident
-Bruce A. Alger
-Compared to treatment of the President, Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew]
-[Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon]
-Treatment
-Use of obscenities, violence
-Compared to Eartha Kitt visit to White House
-Colson’s conversation with John F. X. Davoren [?]
-Response
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Davoren [?], John F. Collins
-Forthcoming telephone calls to Colson
-The President’s schedule
-Boston Irish
Colson left at 4:51 pm.
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Vietnam section
-Revisions
-Henry A. Kissinger’s view
-Settlement agreement
-Central points
-Avoiding misunderstandings
-Renewal of the war
-Settlement breakdown
-Kissinger’s statement
-1972 election
-Results
-Viewing by world, Hanoi leaders
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Public statements
-Pressure by US
-1968 election
-Consequence of McGovern victory
-Relationship with the President
-US friendship
-Hanoi
-Resignation demand
-US goals
-Progress
-“Peace with honor”
-Breakthrough
-Settlement agreement
-Terms
-Agreement
The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 4:51 pm and 5:12 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9B]
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Vietnam section
-Revisions
-Additions
-Deletions
-The President’s first term
-Inflation
-Environment
-“The aging”
-Farmers
-Foreign policy
-US course over one-third of century
-Inflation
-Environment
-Foreign policy
-Domestic issues
-Transition point
-Foreign policy
-Progress
-Peace at home
-Inflation cut
-Effect on average worker
-Recap of achievements
-Conclusion
-“One child” section
-Racial, ethnic, income background of children
-Conclusion
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-The President’s tactics
-Albert E. Sindlinger poll
-Wording of questions
-Responses
-1964 election
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Watergate issue
-Impact
-Democrats
-Upper class
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Revisions
-Return to the President
-Timing
-The President’s review
-The President’s meeting with Price
-Length
-Delivery
-Pace
-Radio compared to TV
-Lyndon B. Johnson’s speeches
-Drama
-Additions
-Length
-The President’s reading
-Pace
The President’s meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
The President talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 4:51 pm and 5:12 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9C]
Request for a meeting with Haldeman
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Duration
-Revisions
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Work
-McGovern
-Words
-Number
-Delivery
-Pace
-Inflation
-Philosophical points
-Change
-Revisions
-Return to the President
-Timing
-The President’s review
-The President’s meeting with Price
Price left at 5:15 pm.
Date: November 1, 1972
Time: 4:25 pm - 5:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
-16-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with John Cardinal Krol
-Prayers for peace, administration
-Krol’s recent press conference
-Vietnam War
-Krol’s position
-Tone
-Nguyen Van Thieu
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
-1972 campaign
-Clark MacGregor
-Far right wing
-Thieu
-Credibility
1972 election
-John G. Schmitz
-Press coverage
-Television [TV]
-Vietnam settlement
-Betrayal
-Effect
-Texas
-California
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Texas
-Data
-Contract
-Treasury Department
-Polls
-Analysis
-The President’s hard line
-Uncertainty
-Results
-Samples
-Shifts
-17-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Louis P. Harris poll
-Vietnam issue
-Polls
-Newspaper coverage
-New York Daily News
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
The President talked with the White House operator at 4:32 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9A]
[See Conversation No. 32-122]
[End of telephone conversation]
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Polls
-New York Daily News
-Sample
-Results
-Changes
-New York
-Projections
-State
-Compared to Sindlinger poll
-Sample
-Controls
-Unintelligible name [?]
-Unintelligible name [?]
-Harris
-Richard M. Scammon
-Accuracy
-Rochester
-18-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Syracuse
-New York
-Suburbs
-Areas of suburbs
-Paul Hall
-Brooklyn
-Massachusetts
-Latest results
-George S. McGovern
-Blue collar vote
-The President’s support
-Suburban Boston
-Louise Day Hicks
-The President’s chances
-Hecklers in Boston [?]
-Response
-MacGregor
-Robert J. Dole
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Demonstrators
-Campaign offices
-McGovern
-Vietnam settlement
-Signing
-Hanoi
-Campaigning
-Quality
-Frank F. Mankiewicz
-Briefings of reporters
-David S. Broder
-Article
-Analysis of McGovern’s campaign
-Predictions
-State votes
-McGovern
-Jim Curry [?]
-Chances of victory
-Harris polls
-Analysis
-George C. Wallace
-19-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Impact on vote
-Third party efforts
-1956 election
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Predictions
-Press coverage
-Vietnam War
-Bombing pause
-Unions
-Members
-Democrats
-Votes for McGovern
-California
-Money
-McGovern supporters
-Demonstration
-John B. Connally
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:40 pm.
Greetings
The President’s schedule
-Announcement
-Release
-New Mexico
-Las Cruces
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-The President’s trips
-North Carolina
-New Mexico
-20-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-California
-States
-Number
-California
-Michigan
-Pennsylvania
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
The President’s schedule
-Press conference
-Timing
-1972 election
-The President’s forthcoming trip to California
-November 4, 5, 1972 newspapers
-Watergate
-Return
-Press pool
-1972 election
-Closing of polls
-Evening news
-The President’s comments
-Duration
-Advisability
-Possible leak
-Ziegler’s possible announcement
-1972 campaign
-Vietnam War
-Social contact with press
-Watergate
-Meetings with reporters
-Theodore H. White
-Garnet D. (“Jack”) Horner
-November 4, 1972 departure for California
-Return from California, November 7, 1972
-Horner
-Nicholas P. Thimmesch
-21-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Forrest Boyd
-Rationale
-Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
-William S. White
-Thimmesch
-Horner
-Theodore White
-Horner
-Timing
-Watergate
-Horner, Thimmesch
-Ground rules
-Boyd
-Timing
-1972 election
-Horner
-Return from California
-Theodore White
-Aldo (“Elbow”) Beckman
-Chicago Tribune
-Social contact with press
Raymond K. Price, Jr. entered at 4:48 pm.
The President’s forthcoming speech, “Look to the Future”
-Draft
Ziegler left at 4:50 pm.
1972 campaign
-Hecklers in Boston
-Compared to Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson incident
-Bruce A. Alger
-Compared to treatment of the President, Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew]
-[Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon]
-Treatment
-Use of obscenities, violence
-Compared to Eartha Kitt visit to White House
-Colson’s conversation with John F. X. Davoren [?]
-Response
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Davoren [?], John F. Collins
-Forthcoming telephone calls to Colson
-The President’s schedule
-Boston Irish
Colson left at 4:51 pm.
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Vietnam section
-Revisions
-Henry A. Kissinger’s view
-Settlement agreement
-Central points
-Avoiding misunderstandings
-Renewal of the war
-Settlement breakdown
-Kissinger’s statement
-1972 election
-Results
-Viewing by world, Hanoi leaders
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Public statements
-Pressure by US
-1968 election
-Consequence of McGovern victory
-Relationship with the President
-US friendship
-Hanoi
-Resignation demand
-US goals
-Progress
-“Peace with honor”
-Breakthrough
-Settlement agreement
-Terms
-Agreement
The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 4:51 pm and 5:12 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9B]
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Vietnam section
-Revisions
-Additions
-Deletions
-The President’s first term
-Inflation
-Environment
-“The aging”
-Farmers
-Foreign policy
-US course over one-third of century
-Inflation
-Environment
-Foreign policy
-Domestic issues
-Transition point
-Foreign policy
-Progress
-Peace at home
-Inflation cut
-Effect on average worker
-Recap of achievements
-Conclusion
-“One child” section
-Racial, ethnic, income background of children
-Conclusion
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-The President’s tactics
-Albert E. Sindlinger poll
-Wording of questions
-Responses
-1964 election
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Watergate issue
-Impact
-Democrats
-Upper class
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*****************************************************************
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Revisions
-Return to the President
-Timing
-The President’s review
-The President’s meeting with Price
-Length
-Delivery
-Pace
-Radio compared to TV
-Lyndon B. Johnson’s speeches
-Drama
-Additions
-Length
-The President’s reading
-Pace
The President’s meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
The President talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 4:51 pm and 5:12 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9C]
Request for a meeting with Haldeman
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Duration
-Revisions
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Work
-McGovern
-Words
-Number
-Delivery
-Pace
-Inflation
-Philosophical points
-Change
-Revisions
-Return to the President
-Timing
-The President’s review
-The President’s meeting with Price
Price left at 5:15 pm.
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