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Conversation No. 561-4
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Date: August 11, 1971
Time: 9:10 am - 11:40 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Instruction to Haldeman
-Telephone call
-Mother [Mrs. W. F. Graham]
-Age
-Invitations
-White House church service
-Mrs. Graham
-Number

Speechwriting
Thomas R. Shepard, Jr.
-Writer


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The environment
-Maurice H. Stans's memorandum
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Business community
-John C. Whitaker
-Domestic Council
-Flanigan
-Quality
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Sisowath Sirik Matak's family
-Gifts from President
-Cufflinks
-Compacts

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Schedule
-Reception
-Mrs. Matak

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 9:15 am.

Berlin
-Allies' meeting with Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Four Powers
-Possible agreement
-USSR concessions
-France
-Text

President's schedule
-White House church service
-Dr. Nelson Bell, Mrs. W. F. Graham, Graham's father-in-law staff
-Timing

White House facilities
-Health unit
-Ronald L. Ziegler’s comments
-William Scherle
-Helen Thomas story
-Scherle
-President’s use
-Press coverage
-Bowling alley
-Swimming pool
-Location
-Executive Office Building [EOB]
-Scherle
-Ziegler’s tour
-Press
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-Size
-Scherle
-White House response to news stories
-Cost
-Federal deficit
-Thomas story
-Cost figures
-Ziegler's comments
-President's use
-News stories
-Removal of swimming pool, sauna
-Possible White House response
-Haldeman
-Ziegler
-Thomas story
-President's use
-Ziegler
-Congressional facilities
-President’s use
-Massuer
-Public relations
-Changes when President took office
-Masseurs

Camp David facilities
-Proposed changes
-Congressional committee staff
-Tour
-Maj. Gen. James D. Hughes
-Reaction
-Swimming pool
-Renovation

White House facilities
-Health unit
-Installation
-Timing
-Thomas story
-Public reaction
-Wire story
-Whirlpool
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-Accuracy
-Donald Oberdorfer, Jr.’s, story
-Harry S. Truman
-Bowling Alley
-Scherle
-Members of Scherle's staff
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-News stories
-White House response
-Scherle
-Victor Lasky
-Samuel Rayburn building facilities
-Clark MacGregor's possible action
-Tour for Congressman
-Scherle

President's previous trip to New Hampshire
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] story
-Politics
-Trips by John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson
-Primary states
-White House response
-Primary states
-President's schedule
-Wisconsin
-Florida
-California
-Ohio
-Pennsylvania
-Roger H. Mudd
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Mudd
-White House response
-Primary states
-Trips
-Financing
-Thomas J. McIntyre
-Maine
-White House response
-McIntyre
-Lawrence O'Brien, Jr.
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-Activities
-Inspection tour
-Nursing home
-Ziegler

White House facilities
-Health unit
-President's use
-Message
-News story
-Public reaction
-Ziegler

Peter H. Dominick
-Appearance on \"Today\" show
-News summary
-Henry (\"Scoop\") Jackson
-Treatment by White House
-MacGregor
-President's schedule
-Senate visits
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-John G. Tower
-President's foreign policy
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Claiborne Pell

US-PRC relations
-James B. (“Scotty”) Reston’s interview with Chou En-lai
-President
-Courage
-Vietnam
-Kissinger
-United Nations [UN]
-Kissinger's schedule
-New York Times
-Interview with Chou En-lai
-Taiwan
-Possible PRC reaction
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-New York Times access to White House staff
-Edward L. Dale, Jr.
-Religious editor
-Interview with Chou En-lai
-Possible public response
-Press coverage
-Possible administration response
-Letter to New York Times
-William P. Rogers
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Rogers
-David Rockefeller
-Floyd [Surname unknown]
-Possible administration response
-Letter
-Buchanan
-President
-Vietnam
-New York Times
-Possible effect in PRC
-Chou En-lai’s opposition
-UN
-Possible administration response
-President's forthcoming trip
-New York Times
-Letter
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-Member of Congress
-Rogers
-Kissinger's conversations
-Australian ambassador
-Charles E. (“Chip”) Bohlen
-USSR
-Press coverage
-Readership
-Possible administration response
-New York Times
-Ziegler, Herbert G. Klein, John A. Scali
-Pentagon Papers
-Washington Post
-Dale
-Access to White House staff
-Social events
-New York Times editorial
-Buchanan
-Motive
-PRC trip
-PRC trip
-George Meany
-Comments
-Speechwriter
-Compared to Administration’s
-Shepard
-Reston interview
-Impact on PRC
-President’s opposition
-Dominick's statements
-Carl T. Curtis
-President's forthcoming trip
-Chou En-lai's interview with Reston
-Diplomatic relations

US-USSR relations
-Kissinger's conversation with Haldeman
-President's possible summit
-Secrecy
-John D. Ehrlichman, Peter G. Peterson, Scali, Ziegler, John N. Mitchell,
John B. Connally, Spiro T. Agnew
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-Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Timing
-Timing
-1972 campaign
-California primary
-President’s forthcoming trip to PRC

President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Timing
-1972 campaign
-Primaries
-New Hampshire, Florida, Wisconsin
-Democrats
-Jackson
-Convention

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 9:15 am and 10:50 am.

President’s schedule
-Florida, California, Wisconsin

[Conversation No. 561-4A]

US-PRC relations
-Reston interview with Chou En-lai
-Joseph C. Kraft
-Kissinger's schedule
-New York Times
-Interview with Chou En-lai
-Possible White House response
-Letter
-Richard A. Moore
-C. Douglas Dillon
-Robert D. Murphy
-Robert S. McNamara
-Murphy
-John J. McCloy
-Rockefeller
-Senate

President's schedule
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-Forthcoming Trips to PRC and USSR
-Timing of announcements
-Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to Peking
-Duration
-Scheduling
-Translation problems
-Kissinger's conversation with Chou En-lai
-Berlin
-Timing
-Announcement
-Emperor of Japan
-Japan

India-Pakistan
-Kissinger's conversation with Harvard Professor, August 11, 1971
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Self-determination
-East Pakistan
-PRC
-Taiwan
-Tibet
-Relief aid
-Rogers’ offer
-UN
-U Thant
-PRC
-Volunteer organization
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with PRC ambassador
-Kennedy
-Hubert H. Humphrey, Edmund S. Muskie

President's schedule
-Forthcoming trip to PRC
-Timing
-Stopovers
-Wake Island
-San Clemente
-Guam
-Wake Island
-Manila
-Anchorage
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-Hong Kong
-Taiwan
-Okinawa
-San Clemente
-Forthcoming trip to USSR
-Timing
-1972 campaign
-Primaries
-New Hampshire, Florida
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with PRC official
-Paul N. McCloskey, Jr.
-New Hampshire
-Ziegler’s possible press briefing
-News coverage
-News Stories
- Little Jim
-Reston
-Television
-Analogy to moonshot
-Forthcoming trip to USSR
-Timing
-Press coverage
-Television
-PRC trip
-Stopover
-Ireland
-John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy
-Britain
-Shannon
-Mulcahy’s home
-Preparation for summit
-Possible meeting with allies
-Timing
-Announcement
-1972 campaign
-Politics
-Tour
-Israel, Africa, Ireland
-Possible meeting with allies
-Location
-Camp David
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-Possible press conference
-International monetary situation
-Timing
-Announcements
-Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-USSR
-Kissinger's conversation with Chou En-lai
-Trip to PRC
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with PRC ambassador in Paris
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Dobrynin
-Press
-Bernard Gwertzman's Story
-Associated Press [AP]
-New York Times
-USSR note to President
-Announcement of President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Note
-John Foster Dulles
-Llewellyn E. (“Tommy”) Thompson, Jr.
-State Department
-Timing of announcement
-Vietnam

Vietnam
-Negotiations

President's schedule
-Kissinger’s PRC trip
-Timing of announcement
-[Emperor of Japan] Hirohito visit
-Advance Party
-Secret Service
-Ehrlichman
-Timing of announcement
-Berlin
-Vietnam
-Josip Broz Tito's forthcoming visit to US
-Trip to USSR
-Announcement
-State visit
-Camp David
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-Dinner at Yugoslav Embassy
-Travel
-South Korea
-USSR
-French
-Camp David
-Emilio Garrastazu Médici
-Indira Gandhi
-Yakubu Gowon
-Agha Mohammad Yahya Khan
-Forthcoming meeting
-Talking points
-India-Pakistan relations
-Possible war
-US involvement
-Cambodia and Laos

News stories concerning PRC
-New York Times
-Gwertzman

President’s schedule
-Forthcoming trip to USSR
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Dobrynin


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USSR


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-Announcement
-Confidentiality
-President’s schedule
-Dobrynin
-Contact with State Department
-Rogers
-Credit
-President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Rogers
-Reports
-Richard V. (“Dick”) Allen

Rogers
-Melvin R. Laird
-National Security Council [NSC] meeting
-PRC
-UN representation
-Vietnam

Foreign policy
-Vision
-PRC compared to USSR
-Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle
-British statesmen
-Winston Churchill
-Connally’s view

PRC
-State Department
-Rogers
-UN representation
-Impact on Taiwan
-Conversation with Scali
-Ping-pong diplomacy
-Role
-Messages
-Warsaw talks
-President’s instructions to Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.
-PRC ambassador to Warsaw
-Chou En-lai’s comment to Kissinger
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State Department
-Role in policy formulation
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Cambodia and Laos
-Jordan
-Possible press stories
-Liberals
-PRC
President's forthcoming trip to USSR
-Kissinger's possible backgrounder
-President’s backgrounder
-Andrei A. Gromyko
-Possible backgrounder
-Announcement
-President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Possible impact
-Compared to PRC trip

President's foreign policy
-Critics
-Accuracy
-Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM]
-SALT
-PRC trip
-USSR
-Jordan
-1972 campaign
-Vietnam
-Views of Leonid I. Brezhnev and Mao Tse-tung

The President left at an unknown time before 10:50 pm.

Vietnam
-USSR
-Election
-Congress' schedule

Kissinger’s schedule
-PRC
-Press
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Kissinger left and the President entered at 10:50 am.

US foreign policy
-President’s forthcoming trip to USSR
-Compared to PRC trip
-Kissinger's advice
-State Department
-Rogers
-Strategic thinking
-PRC
-USSR
-Rogers's conversation with Haldeman
-SALT
-Invitation to Brezhnev
-President's possible visit to European Economic Community [EEC]
-Public opinion
-Europe, Latin America, Africa
-Israel
-India-Pakistan
-Biafra
-Compared to Pakistan
-Strategic thinking
-Rogers
-State Department
-Kissinger and the President
-NSC meetings
-State Department
-PRC
-USSR
-Great Britain
-Rogers

President's forthcoming trip to USSR
-Secrecy
-Kissinger
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Winston Lord
-Dobrynin meeting
-Kissinger's reaction
-Helicopter
-Mt. Vernon
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-Boat
-Importance

Ziegler entered at 10:58 am.

Ziegler's forthcoming press briefing
-Ziegler's conversation with John N. Mitchell
-Forthcoming announcement
-Press conference
-Ziegler’s possible comments
-John V. Lindsay
-Ziegler's forthcoming call to Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Vietnam
-George C. Wallace
-Statement on August 11, 1971 concerning busing
-President’s cabinet
-Busing
-President’s position
-Supreme Court's ruling
-Dual school system
-Compulsion
-Congress
-Use of federal funds
-President's orders
-Elliot L. Richardson, Mitchell
-Violation
-Consequences
-George Meany
-President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-President's forthcoming visit to PRC
-Reston's interview with Chou En-Lai
-Chou En-lai's conversation with Kissinger
-President's objective
-White House facilities
-Usage
-Public perception

Press
-New York Times, Washington Post
-Access to White House staff
-Edward Dale
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-Possible calls
-handling
-[Pentagon Papers]
-Klein
-Scali

Ziegler's forthcoming press briefing
-President's schedule
-1972 campaign
-President’s recent trip
-Mudd report
-McIntyre
-[Forename unknown] Gergis [sp?]

The President talked with Harmon Killebrew between 11:10 am and 11:15 am.

[Conversation No. 561-4B]

[See Conversation No. 7-87]

-Schedule
-Minnesota Twins
-Washington [Senators] fans
-Comments by Tricia Nixon Cox and Julie Nixon Eisenhower

Bob Allison
-Activities
-Commentary
-Senators

Killebrew
-Recreation
-Gift from President
-Golf ball

[End of telephone conversation]

Ziegler left at 11:16 am.

Gift for Killebrew
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Killebrew’s home run
-White House notification

President's schedule
-Bowlers
-Auto racers

President's forthcoming trip to USSR
-Kissinger's reaction
-Buchanan
-PRC
-Foreign policy
-Importance

National economy
-Popular opinion
-President's forthcoming conversation with George P. Shultz

Polls
-Louis Harris
-Possible questions
-Budget allocations
-Defense
-USSR
-Compared to housing, education, environment
-Taxes
-Domestic Council
-Edwin L. Harper
-Popular view concerning federal spending
-Federal spending
-Taxes
-Prices
-Programs

National economy
-Unemployment
-Date of release of government statistics

Speechwriting
-Shepard
-Writer
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President's forthcoming speeches
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Knights of Columbus
-President’s meeting with Shultz
-John K. Andrews, Jr.
-Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
-Price
-Radio talks

President's schedule
-Ehrlichman


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Religion in US
-Graham’s recent visit
-Implications
-President's conversation with Graham, August 10, 1971
-Shepard’s comment
-Public mail

President's speechwriters
-Price's view
-Shepard
-Leader class

Graham
-Audience
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Leader class
-Education
-Impact on religious views
-Views concerning emotion
-Pragmatism
-Cowardice
-Mulcahy
-Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
-Peter G. Peterson
-Meetings
-Ministers
-College presidents
-Kent State University
-Softness
-Environment
-Consumers
-Blacks
-Flanigan
-Ehrlichman
-Business
-Consumers
-Environment
-Environment
-Environment
-Whitaker
-Russell E. Train
-Stans

George H.W. Bush
-Performance
-Possible actions
-Public speaking
-President as world leader
-Bohemian Grove

Graham
-View
-Connally
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
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National economy
-President's forthcoming program
-Impact
-Connally's role
-Wage price freeze
-Taxes
-Foreign monetary policy
-President's possible role
-Connally’s possible speech
-Timing
-Prime time compared to new time
-Hobart Rowen's article, August 11, 1971
-Devaluation
-International Monetary Fund [IMF]
-Dollar’s possible behavior
-Effect on domestic economy
-Devaluation
-International monetary situation
-Connally
-Psychological effect
-Henry S. Reuss committee report
-Shultz's conversation with his son
-Popular opinion
-Rowen's article
-Canada, West Germany
-Action
-President's forthcoming program
-Connally
-Politics
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President's schedule
-Ehrlichman

Haldeman left at 11:40 am.