619–28

Conversation No. 619-28

Date: November 16, 1971
Time: 12:33 pm - 1:59 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.


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Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Appearance in Cleveland
-Press report
-Appearance before Republican women’s group
-Harry S. Dent's conversation with Woods


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[The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower at an unknown time between 12:33 and 12:40
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[Conversation No. 619-28A]

[See Conversation No. 14-131; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

[End of telephone conversation]


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Letter to the President from Larry Smith

Memorandum to Woods from Alexander P. Butterfield
-Invitations to White House
-Sub-cabinet appointees
-The President and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Emilio Garrastuzu Medici
-Church service

Invitations to White House dinners
-Administration officials
-Cabinet
-Butterfield's memo
-Rocco C. Sicilano
-Woods's efforts
-The President's conversations
-Woods
-Charles W. Colson and Butterfield
-Administration officials
-Australian dinner
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-Sub-cabinet appointees
-Salute to Hollywood
-Sue
-List of celebrities
-Arthur G. (“Art”) Linkletter
-Pat Boone
-John Wayne
-Administration officials
-The President's list
-Mitchell
-John B. Connally

Haldeman entered at 12:40 pm.

-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Forthcoming calls from Woods

Connally
-Gift for Woods
-Visit to Bangkok
-Maxine North [?]
-Contrasted with William P. Rogers and Melvin R. Laird

Woods left at 12:46 pm.

Butterfield
-Memorandum to Woods
-Age
-Conversation with the President
-The President’s conversation with Woods
-Invitations to White House dinners
-Administration officials
-Memo to Woods
-Colson
-Woods
-List
-Functions
-Memoranda to Woods
-Conversations regarding White House invitations
-The President
-Medici dinner
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-Haldeman
-Possible memorandum from Haldeman

Invitations to White House dinners
-Colson
-Haldeman
-Butterfield's memorandum to Woods
-Butterfield’s conversation with the President
-Medici dinner
-Colson

Woods
-Views regarding White House staff
-Butterfield
-Working relations with White House staff
-Haldeman

Invitations to White House dinners
-Administration officials

Administration officials
-Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.
-Tenure in office
-People's Republic of China [PRC] visit
-Donald H. Rumsfeld's view
-John A. Volpe
-Previous Cabinet meeting
-Presentation

Congress
-National security issues
-Senate Democrats supporting the President on national security
-Michael J. Mansfield
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Hatfield-McGovern vote
-Mansfield
-Vietnam
-Withdrawal
-Hugh Scott's motion on Cooper-Church Amendment
-Stennis Amendment on foreign aid
-Foreign Aid Bill
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-James O. Eastland, Sam J. Ervin, Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson, Gale W.
McGee, John C. Stennis and John J. Sparkman
-James B. Allen and Russell B. Long
-Harry F. Byrd, Jr.

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:46 pm.

Malfunctioning dictaphone

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm.

Senate Democrats supporting the President on national security
-Byrd
-Howard W. Cannon
-Jackson
-Handling
-Southerners

Jackson
-Possible candidacy
-Announcement
-Timing
-Votes
-The President's schedule

Congress
-House Democrats supporting the President on national security
-Leaders
-Foreign areas
-Arms Services
-George H. Mahon
-The President's schedule
-Senators
-Summary


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Maurice H. Stans
-Tenure in office
-Haldeman's conversation with Mitchell, November 15, 1971
-Trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Peter G. Peterson
-Possible conversations
-Haldeman and the President
-George P. Shultz's view
-The President's schedule

John W. Rollins
-The President's call, November 15, 1971
-Possible calls
-Mitchell and Haldeman


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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:46 pm.

Unknown man
-Meeting with Pierre-Paul Schweitzer
-International Monetary Fund [IMF]
-The President’s schedule
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Bull left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm.

Schweitzer
-Meeting with Kissinger
-Connally


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The President's schedule
-Connally [?]
-Ronald W. Reagan

Robert C. Seamans, Jr.
-Possible role with administration
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Undersecretary of Defense
-Laird
-Frederic V. Malek
-Laird
-Defense Department
-Reorganization
-New post

NATO
-Flanigan
-Walter N. Thayer
-Mansfield D. Sprague

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:46 and 1:08
pm.
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[Conversation No. 619-28B]

[See Conversation No. 14-132]

[End of telephone conversation]

NATO
-George Champion, Jr.
-Hoyt Ammidon

The President's schedule
-Robert J. Dole
-Mitchell
-American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
convention

The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and
1:08 pm.

[Conversation No. 619-28C]

[See Conversation No. 14-133]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President's schedule
-AFL-CIO convention
-Timing
-George Meany
-Criticism of the President's foreign policy
-PRC
-Fidel Castro
-Florida
-Meany

Appointments
-Flanigan and Malek
-NATO
-Laird's Under secretaries
-Japan Ambassador
-Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
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-Paul W. McCracken's replacement
-Shultz's role
-Connally's role
-NATO
-Japan
-Thayer
-Ammidon
-Sprague
-Shultz
-Conversation with the President
-Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-Arthur F. Burns
-Connally
-Views regarding unknown Texan
-Herbert Stein

The President talked with Flanigan between 1:08 and 1:09 pm.

[Conversation No. 619-28D]

[See Conversation No. 14-134]

[End of telephone conversation]

NATO
-Henry A. Kissinger

The President talked with an unknown person [Kissinger ?] at an unknown time between 1:09
and 1:13 pm.

[Conversation No. 619-28E]

Kissinger’s schedule
-Return call

[End of telephone conversation]

Congress
-National issues
Congressional Democrats supporting the President on national security
-Jackson
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-McGee
-Southerners
-Mansfield
-Carl B. Albert
-Mahon
-Kissinger's views
-The President's schedule
-Clark MacGregor
-Connally

Kissinger entered at 1:13 pm.

Appointments
-The President's previous conversation with Flanigan
-NATO
-John J. McCloy

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 1:13 and 1:17
pm.

[Conversation No. 619-28F]

[See Conversation No. 14-135]

[End of telephone conversation]

McCloy
-Possible role with Administration

Appointments
-Ammidon
-Japan
-Connally
-New York Trust
-Thayer
-Connally
-Flanigan
-Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.
-William P. Rogers's views
-Sprague
-Stoessel
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-Volpe’s view
-Graham A. Martin
-Volpe's view

Volpe
-Cabinet report
-Meeting with Prime Minister of Poland
-Duration

Donald McI. Kendall

Frank J. Shakespeare

Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle
-Meeting with the President

The President's schedule
-Meetings
-Shakespeare
-Volpe

Shakespeare
-Performance in office

Yitzhak Rabin
-Meeting with Kissinger, November 16, 1971
-Golda Meir's schedule
-Appeal for arms
-The President
-San Clemente

Moshe Dayan's schedule
-Rogers and Laird

The President left at an unknown time before 1:17 pm

The President’s schedule
-Gold Meir
-[Hassan, King of Morocco] [Moulay] Hassan II
-Kissinger and Rogers
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The President's schedule
-Medici
-Azores

The President entered at an unknown time after 1:09 pm.

Rogers and Laird
-The President’s conversation with Connally
-The President’s schedule
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Volpe
-Tenure in office
-Forthcoming election

The President talked with Flanigan between 1:17 and 1:18 pm.

[Conversation No. 619-28G]

[See Conversation No. 14-136]

Kissinger and Haldeman conferred during the conversation.

The President’s schedule

[End of telephone conversation]

Kissinger's schedule

Laird
-Forthcoming conversation with Haldeman
-Conversations with Kissinger
-New York Times story regarding Vietnam troop withdrawal
-Source

Leaks
-Kissinger's staff
-Laird
-State Department
-Defense Department

Laird and Rogers
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-Phantoms
-Dayan
-Possible Israeli negotiations with Egypt

Aid to Israel
-The President's role
-Phantoms
-Rogers's possible role
-The President's schedule
-Meir
-Phantoms
-USSR
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Interim settlement
-State Department
-Phantoms

Laird
-Forthcoming call from Haldeman
-New York Times story regarding Vietnam troop withdrawal
-Defense Department
-Source

Cabinet
-Rogers's views
-John A. Scali
-The President's treatment
-Dwight D. Eisenhower's treatment
-Meetings
-Staff system
-The President's schedule
-Compared to Eisenhower’s
-Eisenhower's schedule
-Arthur E. Summerfield
-John Foster Dulles

The President's schedule
-Agnew
-Eisenhower's schedule
-The President
-Requests
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Agnew

The President's schedule
-Jerry Persons
-Sherman Adams

Agnew’s schedule
-Kissinger

Reagan
-Schedule
-Kissinger
-The President
-Forthcoming conversation with Kissinger
-Amchitka nuclear test
-Mail
-Supreme Court
-Scientists
-Press

Israel
-Kissinger’s forthcoming talk with Rabin
-The President's schedule
-Meir
-Dayan
-Domestic allies
-Interim settlement

PRC
George H. W. Bush's forthcoming statement
-New York
-Rogers's calls to Kissinger
-The President
-Statement on Vietnam
-US troop withdrawal
-Deadline
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Bush's forthcoming statement
-Chou En-Lai
-Rogers's view
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-Television
-Location
-USSR
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation
-Ambassador in Paris
-Statement regarding USSR
-Bush's forthcoming statement
-Kissinger's schedule
-PRC Ambassador in Paris
-Le Duc Tho
-Forthcoming announcement
-PRC Ambassador
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon ‘s schedule
-The President’s schedule

Appointments
-Deputy Secretary of Defense
-John S. Foster, Jr.
-Laird
-Seamans
-Stanley R. Resor
-Laird's list

PRC
-Statement regarding Vietnam
-US response
-Rogers's views
-Forthcoming trip
-Rogers’s view
-Political risks
-Statement regarding Vietnam
-Bush
-Views of other nations
-Connally
-Thailand
-United Nations [UN] speech of November 15, 1971
-Rogers

State Department
-Views regarding the President's forthcoming trips to the USSR and PRC
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PRC
-Communiqué at end of the President's forthcoming trip
-US defense commitments
-Rogers’s view
-The President's speeches
-Theme
-US differences with PRC
-Communiqué at end of the President's forthcoming trip
-Statement regarding Vietnam
-Preparation of text
-Rogers
-Chou En-Lai and Mao Tse-Tung

Rogers's schedule
-Forthcoming trip to the USSR
-Haldeman
-Advance trip

Kissinger's schedule
-Forthcoming trip to the USSR
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Communiqué

Rogers's schedule
-USSR
-Robert J. McCloskey
-Possible result
-Negotiations
-Dobrynin
-Letter

PRC
-The President's forthcoming trip
-Announcement
-Possible response
-Lin Piao and Army Chief of Staff
-USSR

Sadruddin Aga Khan
-Conversation with the President
-Harvard University
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-India-Pakistan


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-Role with UN
-Background
-Conversation with the President
-India-Pakistan
-Tone of the President’s comments
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Trial of Mujibur Rahman
-Possible US action

India-Pakistan
-Kissinger's conversation with Pakistani foreign secretary
-Agha Muhommad Yahya khan
-Possible letter from the President
-Mujibur Rahman


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Aga Khan
-Conversation with the President
-Refugees
-US aid
-Role with UN

Vietnam
-The President's previous meeting with congressmen
-Mansfield compromise
-Effect on negotiations
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Gerald R. Ford and Leslie C. Arends
-Liberals' views
-North Vietnamese military dispositions
-South Vietnam
-Cambodia
-Laos
-USSR and PRC aid
-North Vietnam
-Liberals
-Administration's possible response
-Mansfield Amendment
-Scott
-Ford and Arends
-Scott
-Southern Democrats
-Stennis

Laird
-Presidency
-Views on national security policy
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Vietnam
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-Conversation with Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak
-Vietnamization

Vietnam
-The President's policy
-President’s 1969 conversation with Kissinger
-Laird's role
-Statements during 1968 campaign
-Nomination acceptance speech
-Miami
-Korea
-US arms and aid
-Mary McGrory's views
-Cambodia
-Nixon Doctrine
-The President's policy
-Troop withdrawals
-Anti-war demonstrations
-Liberals
-Laird
-March 1969
-Peace proposals

Cabinet
-Laird and Rogers
-Connally
-Leaks
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-The President's decision-making procedures

Vietnam
-Troop withdrawal
-Rogers's statement to Henry Brandon
-Laird
-Leak
-Negotiations

The President's schedule
-Meir
-Possible trip to the US
-Rogers
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-Dayan

Kissinger left and an unknown man entered at 1:58 pm.

Manolo Sanchez
-Schedule

Cuff links

The President et al., left at 1:59 pm.