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747–14
- President Richard M. Nixon
- John D. Ehrlichman
- UNKNOWN
July 19, 1972
Conversation No. 747-14
Date: July 19, 1972
Time: 12:44 pm - 1:51 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Domestic issues
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger paper
-Completion
-Legislative leaders and Cabinet meeting, July 21, 1972
-Harry S. Dent
-William E. Timmons
-Clark MacGregor
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Strategy for dealing with Congress
-Republican National Convention
-Political overview
-MacGregor
-Instruction for Ehrlichman
20
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Consultation with Hugh Scott and Gerald R. Ford
-Domestic issues
-Taxes and prices
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Administration accomplishments
-Supreme Court
-Permissiveness
-Law and order
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Forthcoming meeting on strategy of Congress
-George S. McGovern's strategy
-Congressional response
-1948
-Scott
-Democratic platform
-$1000 rebate
-Defense proposals
-Melvin R. Laird
Airline hijackings
-Ehrlichman forthcoming meeting with airline presidents
-Capital punishment
-Poll
-Haldeman
-Regulations
-Correspondence between White House and airlines
Capital crimes
-Administration position
-Hijacking and kidnapping
-Capital punishment
-Effect on McGovern's stance
-Poll
-Hijacking and kidnapping
-Rape, murder
Crime
-Police killer youth
-Bail
-Repeat offense
-Prosecutor's and police chief’s stance on bail
-Manolo Sanchez's story
-New York City police killer
21
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Repeat offense
-Examples for speeches
-Murder
-California case
-Bail
-Release of suspect
-Preventive detention
Vietnam Veterans Against the War
-Arrests
-Conspiracy to disrupt conventions
-Fire bombs
-Arms
-Arrests and indictments
-Secret Service
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Infiltration
Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
-Resignation
-Handling
-Wife, Debbie Sloan
-Pregnancy
-Future employment
-Gabriel Hauge
-New York
-John W. Dean, III
-Banking
-The President's former law partners
-Randolph Hobson Guthrie
-Ehrlichman meeting, July 20, 1972
-Irving Trust
The President's veto strategy
-Politics
Foreign affairs
-Kissinger
-Vietnam negotiations
-1972 election
-Egypt
-Soviet Union's involvement
-Effect of US power
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Legislative strategy
-Weinberger
-Politics
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Arthur S. Flemming
-Political implications of signing or vetoing
-The President's disagreement with Weinberger
-Taxes
-McGovern
-Rural revenue sharing bill
-Rural development
-Cost
-Richard K. Cook's prediction on Congressional passage
-Authorization
-Water bill
-The President’s forthcoming message to Congress
-Cabinet meeting
-Taxes and prices
-Preparation
-Possible effect
-Water bill
-The President's possible veto
-Labor Department and Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] bill
-Public relations
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Charles W. Colson's staff
-Thomas F. Eagleton's predicted response
-Handling the press
-The President's Omnibus Congressional message
-Lower taxes and prices
-Water bill veto
-Sustainability
-Democrats
-Political response
-Coalition with conservatives
-Pre- and post- convention support of the President
-Congress
-Schedule
-Weinberger's suggestion
-Demanding Congressional fiscal discipline
-Enlisting McGovern's support
-Presenting to Cabinet
23
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Ford and Scott
-Budget cuts
-Revenue sharing and welfare reform
-Welfare reform
-Congressional votes
-Pilot program
-Russell B. Long
-Abraham A. Ribicoff
-Revenue sharing
-Article in National Journal
-Mayors that favor the President's support of cities
-Detractors
-John N. Lindsay
-Others
-Cities
-Philadelphia
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Los Angeles
-Samuel W. Yorty
-Possible endorsement of the President
-Colson
-Rural development
-Pork barrel
-Revenue sharing
-Another Weinberger suggestion
-Fiscal 1975
-Balanced budget
-Effect on businesses
-George P. Shultz
-Full-employment balance
-Deficit
-Weinberger's paper
Dean
The President's schedule
-Dinner for [Giulio Andreotti]
-Entertainment
-Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra
-Political benefit
-John N. Mitchell's and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew's views
Sinatra
24
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Concern about criminal connections
-1972 election
-Connection with Mafia
-Absence of criminal charges
-Connection to the President's administration
-Kissinger
-Agnew
-Appearance before House Select Committee on Crime
-Hearsay
-Sinatra's counsel
-Interview
-Italian community
-Rizzo's opinion of Sinatra
-Law and order
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 7s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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Flood relief
-News summary
-Alan Cranston
-Scott
-Ehrlichman
-Pennsylvania
-McGovern
-John C. Whitaker
Cabinet meeting, July 20, 1972
-Briefings by Ehrlichman, Scott, Ford
-Revenue sharing
-Scott, Ford
Legislative bills
25
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Scott
-Possible call from Ehrlichman
-Cranston
-Flood relief
-Credit
-Meeting
-Agnew
-Agnew to call on McGovern
-Repudiation of Cranston
Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule
-South Dakota
-Place of parents' marriage
Scheduling
-Ziegler
-Kissinger, Ehrlichman to hold meetings with network people
-Groups compared to individuals
Press relations
-Ziegler's comment view
-1968 election
-[Arnold] Eric Sevareid, Walter L. Cronkite, Jr., David Brinkley, John W. Chancellor,
Harry Reasoner
-Political stances
-Herbert E. Kaplow, John Hart
-Hart
-Connection with Ehrlichman
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Kaplow
-American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-Richard Valeriani
-Brinkley
-Chancellor
-Miami campaign
-Help from Kaplow
-Republican National Convention
Busing
-Michigan court decision
-Michigan
-Stephen J. Roth
26
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Possible legal action
-Point of order
-Timing
-Appeal
-Possible White House legal action
-Appeal
-Effect on election
-William S. Broomfield's order
-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People [NAACP] legal
action
-Controversy of the issue
-Citizens protest meeting
-Michael P. Balzano, Jr. to attend
-William G. Milliken
-Edward L. Morgan
-Controversy
-Legislative efforts
-Robert P. Griffin's amendment
-Moratorium
-William M. Colmer
-Rules Committee
-House Judiciary Committee
The President's Equal Education Opportunity Act Bill
-Roman C. Pucinski's efforts
-Charles H. Percy
-Education and Labor Committee
Congress
-Percy
-Richard J. Daley
-McGovern
-Support for the President
-Pucinski
-The Administration’s position vis-a-vis
-Richard B. Ogilvie
-Daniel Walker
Busing
-Handling in the House of Representatives
-John Anderson of the Rules Committee to meet with Ehrlichman
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 28s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Watergate
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Dean, July 19, 1972
-Haldeman's conversation with John N. Mitchell
-Dean’s conversation with Mitchell
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Legal action
-Story
-Magruder's involvement
-Lying
-Cover-ups
-Alger Hiss case
-White House aid to Magruder
-Vietnam Veterans against the War
-Amnesty
-Haldeman and Dean's forthcoming conversation with Mitchell
-Douglas Caddy, lawyer for Watergate burglars
-Questioned
-Held in contempt of court
-Appealed
-Background
-Young Americans for Freedom [YAF]
-Notified of capture of burglars
-E. Howard Hunt , Jr.
-Grand jury
-Questioned Caddy
-Ties to Hunt, G[eorge] Gordon Liddy, Colson
-Colson's secretary
-Knowledge
-Magruder's involvement
-Testimony
-Magruder statements
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Responsibility
-Wiretapping
-Extent of Ehrlichman's information
-Justice Department
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Henry E. Petersen
-Helping Dean
-US attorney
An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 12:44 pm and 1:51 pm.
American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
-Endorsement of candidates
-Executive Council
-Congressional races
-James D. Hodgson
Watergate
-Need to resolve
-Ehrlichman's talk with Dean on July 18, 1972
-Circuit court ruling
-David L. Bazelon
-Supreme Court
-Caddy testimony
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman dealing with Dean
-Haldeman's political judgment
-Dean's meeting with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Dean's meeting with Petersen July 18, 1972
-Magruder's explanation
-Knowledge
-Dirty tricks
-White House rebuttal
-Vietnam Veterans against the War
-Reliance on Liddy
-Extent of Magruder testimony
-Extent of Watergate investigation
-Mitchell
-Haldeman
-Magruder
-Dean’s view
-White House staff's prior knowledge of break-in
-Mitchell
-Transcripts
29
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Haldeman
-Timmons
-Haldeman and Dean's meeting with Mitchell, Magruder
-Operation
-Magruder responsibility
-Mitchell
-Edward Bennett Williams
-Possible questioning
-Connection with Mitchell
-White House delaying tactics
-Depositions
-Colson
-Unknown judge
-Criminal liabilities
-Magruder
-Tactics
-Criminal liability
-Liddy
-Hunt
-Dean's demeanor
-Petersen's demeanor
-Justice Department attorneys
-Cover-up
-Burglars, Liddy and Hunt
-Convictions
-Magruder
-Effect on Justice Department
-Alfred C. Baldwin, III
-Potential damage to White House
-Dean
-Risk factor
-Magruder and Mitchell's relationship
White House staff
-Russell E. Train
-Robert Cahn, Gordon J. F. MacDonald leaving
-Replacements
-[Forename unknown] Lane
-Sunset Magazine
-Shirley Temple Black
-Credibility
-Other prospects
-Black
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Watergate
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Mitchell and Magruder
The President and John Ehrlichman left at 1:51 pm.
Date: July 19, 1972
Time: 12:44 pm - 1:51 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Domestic issues
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger paper
-Completion
-Legislative leaders and Cabinet meeting, July 21, 1972
-Harry S. Dent
-William E. Timmons
-Clark MacGregor
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Strategy for dealing with Congress
-Republican National Convention
-Political overview
-MacGregor
-Instruction for Ehrlichman
20
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Consultation with Hugh Scott and Gerald R. Ford
-Domestic issues
-Taxes and prices
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Administration accomplishments
-Supreme Court
-Permissiveness
-Law and order
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Forthcoming meeting on strategy of Congress
-George S. McGovern's strategy
-Congressional response
-1948
-Scott
-Democratic platform
-$1000 rebate
-Defense proposals
-Melvin R. Laird
Airline hijackings
-Ehrlichman forthcoming meeting with airline presidents
-Capital punishment
-Poll
-Haldeman
-Regulations
-Correspondence between White House and airlines
Capital crimes
-Administration position
-Hijacking and kidnapping
-Capital punishment
-Effect on McGovern's stance
-Poll
-Hijacking and kidnapping
-Rape, murder
Crime
-Police killer youth
-Bail
-Repeat offense
-Prosecutor's and police chief’s stance on bail
-Manolo Sanchez's story
-New York City police killer
21
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Repeat offense
-Examples for speeches
-Murder
-California case
-Bail
-Release of suspect
-Preventive detention
Vietnam Veterans Against the War
-Arrests
-Conspiracy to disrupt conventions
-Fire bombs
-Arms
-Arrests and indictments
-Secret Service
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Infiltration
Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
-Resignation
-Handling
-Wife, Debbie Sloan
-Pregnancy
-Future employment
-Gabriel Hauge
-New York
-John W. Dean, III
-Banking
-The President's former law partners
-Randolph Hobson Guthrie
-Ehrlichman meeting, July 20, 1972
-Irving Trust
The President's veto strategy
-Politics
Foreign affairs
-Kissinger
-Vietnam negotiations
-1972 election
-Egypt
-Soviet Union's involvement
-Effect of US power
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Legislative strategy
-Weinberger
-Politics
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Arthur S. Flemming
-Political implications of signing or vetoing
-The President's disagreement with Weinberger
-Taxes
-McGovern
-Rural revenue sharing bill
-Rural development
-Cost
-Richard K. Cook's prediction on Congressional passage
-Authorization
-Water bill
-The President’s forthcoming message to Congress
-Cabinet meeting
-Taxes and prices
-Preparation
-Possible effect
-Water bill
-The President's possible veto
-Labor Department and Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] bill
-Public relations
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Charles W. Colson's staff
-Thomas F. Eagleton's predicted response
-Handling the press
-The President's Omnibus Congressional message
-Lower taxes and prices
-Water bill veto
-Sustainability
-Democrats
-Political response
-Coalition with conservatives
-Pre- and post- convention support of the President
-Congress
-Schedule
-Weinberger's suggestion
-Demanding Congressional fiscal discipline
-Enlisting McGovern's support
-Presenting to Cabinet
23
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Ford and Scott
-Budget cuts
-Revenue sharing and welfare reform
-Welfare reform
-Congressional votes
-Pilot program
-Russell B. Long
-Abraham A. Ribicoff
-Revenue sharing
-Article in National Journal
-Mayors that favor the President's support of cities
-Detractors
-John N. Lindsay
-Others
-Cities
-Philadelphia
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Los Angeles
-Samuel W. Yorty
-Possible endorsement of the President
-Colson
-Rural development
-Pork barrel
-Revenue sharing
-Another Weinberger suggestion
-Fiscal 1975
-Balanced budget
-Effect on businesses
-George P. Shultz
-Full-employment balance
-Deficit
-Weinberger's paper
Dean
The President's schedule
-Dinner for [Giulio Andreotti]
-Entertainment
-Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra
-Political benefit
-John N. Mitchell's and Vice President Spiro T. Agnew's views
Sinatra
24
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Concern about criminal connections
-1972 election
-Connection with Mafia
-Absence of criminal charges
-Connection to the President's administration
-Kissinger
-Agnew
-Appearance before House Select Committee on Crime
-Hearsay
-Sinatra's counsel
-Interview
-Italian community
-Rizzo's opinion of Sinatra
-Law and order
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 7s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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Flood relief
-News summary
-Alan Cranston
-Scott
-Ehrlichman
-Pennsylvania
-McGovern
-John C. Whitaker
Cabinet meeting, July 20, 1972
-Briefings by Ehrlichman, Scott, Ford
-Revenue sharing
-Scott, Ford
Legislative bills
25
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Scott
-Possible call from Ehrlichman
-Cranston
-Flood relief
-Credit
-Meeting
-Agnew
-Agnew to call on McGovern
-Repudiation of Cranston
Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule
-South Dakota
-Place of parents' marriage
Scheduling
-Ziegler
-Kissinger, Ehrlichman to hold meetings with network people
-Groups compared to individuals
Press relations
-Ziegler's comment view
-1968 election
-[Arnold] Eric Sevareid, Walter L. Cronkite, Jr., David Brinkley, John W. Chancellor,
Harry Reasoner
-Political stances
-Herbert E. Kaplow, John Hart
-Hart
-Connection with Ehrlichman
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Kaplow
-American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-Richard Valeriani
-Brinkley
-Chancellor
-Miami campaign
-Help from Kaplow
-Republican National Convention
Busing
-Michigan court decision
-Michigan
-Stephen J. Roth
26
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Possible legal action
-Point of order
-Timing
-Appeal
-Possible White House legal action
-Appeal
-Effect on election
-William S. Broomfield's order
-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People [NAACP] legal
action
-Controversy of the issue
-Citizens protest meeting
-Michael P. Balzano, Jr. to attend
-William G. Milliken
-Edward L. Morgan
-Controversy
-Legislative efforts
-Robert P. Griffin's amendment
-Moratorium
-William M. Colmer
-Rules Committee
-House Judiciary Committee
The President's Equal Education Opportunity Act Bill
-Roman C. Pucinski's efforts
-Charles H. Percy
-Education and Labor Committee
Congress
-Percy
-Richard J. Daley
-McGovern
-Support for the President
-Pucinski
-The Administration’s position vis-a-vis
-Richard B. Ogilvie
-Daniel Walker
Busing
-Handling in the House of Representatives
-John Anderson of the Rules Committee to meet with Ehrlichman
27
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 28s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Watergate
-Ehrlichman's conversation with Dean, July 19, 1972
-Haldeman's conversation with John N. Mitchell
-Dean’s conversation with Mitchell
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Legal action
-Story
-Magruder's involvement
-Lying
-Cover-ups
-Alger Hiss case
-White House aid to Magruder
-Vietnam Veterans against the War
-Amnesty
-Haldeman and Dean's forthcoming conversation with Mitchell
-Douglas Caddy, lawyer for Watergate burglars
-Questioned
-Held in contempt of court
-Appealed
-Background
-Young Americans for Freedom [YAF]
-Notified of capture of burglars
-E. Howard Hunt , Jr.
-Grand jury
-Questioned Caddy
-Ties to Hunt, G[eorge] Gordon Liddy, Colson
-Colson's secretary
-Knowledge
-Magruder's involvement
-Testimony
-Magruder statements
28
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Responsibility
-Wiretapping
-Extent of Ehrlichman's information
-Justice Department
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Henry E. Petersen
-Helping Dean
-US attorney
An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 12:44 pm and 1:51 pm.
American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
-Endorsement of candidates
-Executive Council
-Congressional races
-James D. Hodgson
Watergate
-Need to resolve
-Ehrlichman's talk with Dean on July 18, 1972
-Circuit court ruling
-David L. Bazelon
-Supreme Court
-Caddy testimony
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman dealing with Dean
-Haldeman's political judgment
-Dean's meeting with Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Dean's meeting with Petersen July 18, 1972
-Magruder's explanation
-Knowledge
-Dirty tricks
-White House rebuttal
-Vietnam Veterans against the War
-Reliance on Liddy
-Extent of Magruder testimony
-Extent of Watergate investigation
-Mitchell
-Haldeman
-Magruder
-Dean’s view
-White House staff's prior knowledge of break-in
-Mitchell
-Transcripts
29
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Haldeman
-Timmons
-Haldeman and Dean's meeting with Mitchell, Magruder
-Operation
-Magruder responsibility
-Mitchell
-Edward Bennett Williams
-Possible questioning
-Connection with Mitchell
-White House delaying tactics
-Depositions
-Colson
-Unknown judge
-Criminal liabilities
-Magruder
-Tactics
-Criminal liability
-Liddy
-Hunt
-Dean's demeanor
-Petersen's demeanor
-Justice Department attorneys
-Cover-up
-Burglars, Liddy and Hunt
-Convictions
-Magruder
-Effect on Justice Department
-Alfred C. Baldwin, III
-Potential damage to White House
-Dean
-Risk factor
-Magruder and Mitchell's relationship
White House staff
-Russell E. Train
-Robert Cahn, Gordon J. F. MacDonald leaving
-Replacements
-[Forename unknown] Lane
-Sunset Magazine
-Shirley Temple Black
-Credibility
-Other prospects
-Black
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Watergate
-Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-Mitchell and Magruder
The President and John Ehrlichman left at 1:51 pm.