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750–13
- President Richard M. Nixon
- Henry A. Kissinger
- H. R. Haldeman
- Alexander P. Butterfield
- Rose Mary Woods
- Stephen B. Bull
July 21, 1972
Conversation No. 750-13
Date: July 21, 1972
Time: 4:20 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
Kissinger's schedule
-Past meeting
-Kissinger's departure
-Briefing
Kissinger's meeting with Michael J. Mansfield
-Mansfield's trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]
-The President's approval
-Mansfield’s relationship with Kissinger and the President
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 16s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
*****************************************************************
Kissinger's meeting with group of eight senators
-Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr.
-Ted Stevens
-John Sherman Cooper
Administration's legislative activities
-Mansfield's concern about possible defeat of Administration's proposals
-Labor interests
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
Kissinger's meeting with eight senators
-Vietnam War
14
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Senators' reception of Kissinger's remarks
-Tone
-Negotiations
-Kissinger's assessment of Mansfield Amendment
-Advisability of passage
-Mansfield's remarks to meeting
-Mansfield’s relationship with the President
-Mansfield Amendment
-Chance of passage
Mansfield Amendment
-Efforts of administration’s supporters in Congress
-Ceasefire
-John C. Stennis
-Hugh Scott
-Impact on Paris negotiations
-1972 election
-George S. McGovern
-Administration's view
-Advice to Congressional supporters
-Possible vote
-McGovern
Kissinger's luncheon with Eugene J. McCarthy
-McCarthy's view of McGovern
-Catholics, Jews in high office
-McCarthy's assessment of Methodism
-McGovern’s domestic programs
-McGovern's economic advisors
-McCarthy’s view
-McGovern on American troops in Europe
-McCarthy's view
Vietnam negotiations
-McCarthy's view
-Administration's present view
-Democratic Party platform
-Communists in Vietnam
-South Vietnamese elections
-McCarthy's advice
-Administration's conduct
-McCarthy's possible assistance to Administration
15
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Discussion in Paris with Vietnamese communists
-McCarthy’s relationship to peace movement
-Public support in US
-McCarthy's view of McGovern supporters
-Behavior at Democratic National convention
-Treatment of McCarthy
-McCarthy's suggestions concerning Latin America
-The President's assessment of McCarthy
Kissinger's schedule
-Howard Stein
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 22s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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Kissinger’s trip to Moscow
-Scheduling and length
-September 1972
-Scheduling of announcement
-Labor Day
Negotiations for peace
-Private meetings
-Benefit to administration
-Scheduling
-William J. Porter to accompany Kissinger
-Kissinger’s intention
-Assumptions of other negotiators
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Republican National Convention
-The President’s schedule
-West Coast
16
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Kissinger’s trip to Japan
-Scheduling
-State Department
-Need to secure Kakuei Tanaka’s permission
-Tanaka’s approval
State Department and President's plans
-William D. Eberle
Kissinger’s conversation with Jerrold L. Schecter
-Negotiations for peace
-Reliability of Time’s informants
Dan Anders Holmberg’s report of American bombing
-Coverage by National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-North Vietnam
-Sluice-gate near Hanoi
-Civilian quarters of Hanoi
-Attitude of American public
The President's meeting with new South Vietnamese ambassador [Tran Kim Phoung]
-Ambassador’s children and wife
-Kissinger
-Nguyen Van Thieu's plans
-Marshall Green
-William P. Rogers
Vietnam War
-Recent military engagement
-News summary
-Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN]
-Route 1
-North Vietnamese
-Casualties
-Military casualties
-South Vietnamese
-North Vietnamese
-Developing battle
-North Vietnamese
-Reinforcements
-312th Division
-Plain Des Jarres
-American leaflet dropping
17
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Bombing by American B-52s
-320th training division
-Experience
-Present military campaign
-Communist attempt to seize Hue
-Communist attempt to retake Quang Tri
-ARVN
-Fortifications in city
-Citadel
-Communists’ estimated casualties
-ARVN’s offensive
-Air support
-Other results for communists
-Failed attempt to seize Kontum
-An Loc
-Road
-Vietnamese people
-Horrors of war for children
-Kissinger’s development of proposals for negotiating with communists
-Negotiations
-Kissinger’s development of proposals
-The President’s January 25, 1972 peace proposals
-Presentation
-Thieu
-Re-election
-Publicity
-1972 election
-Soviet Union
-Press relations
-Strengthening of American demands
-Schechter
-Implementary provisions of accords
-Ceasefire, election, electoral commission
-Prolonging war
-1972 election
-Effect on peace offer
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 3s ]
18
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 4:40 pm.
Kissinger's talk with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Kissinger’s forthcoming visit
-Draft treaty on nuclear weapons
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National security]
[Duration: 22s ]
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
*****************************************************************
-Contingency
-Signing
-Timing
-October 1972
-Television
-Satellite coverage
-President
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
Kissinger’s efforts
-The President’s schedule
-California
-Dealings with McCarthy and Mansfield
19
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Dealings with doves
The President's conversation with Kissinger
-Scott
-Proposed compromise
-Cease-fire
-Stennis
-Mansfield amendment
-William E. Timmons, Clark MacGregor
Kissinger's conversation with Mansfield
-Senatorial support for Mansfield Amendment
-Upcoming trip to PRC
-Mansfield's support for Mansfield Amendment
-Mansfield’s comments at meeting with Senators
-Duration of Mansfield's support
-Support by other senators
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 52s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
*****************************************************************
-Mansfield Amendment
-Mansfield’s support
-Chance of passage in Senate
-Compromise
-House of Representatives
-Effect on peace negotiations
-Benefits of passage to the President's administration
-McGovern's possible vote
20
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 13s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
**************************************************************************
Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra's farewell performance
-Songs from Sinatra's career
-Tommy Dorsey
-Audience's reaction to I Did It My Way
-Audience's reception
-Possible television appearance
-Secret Service agents
-Haldeman's view
-Preceding entertainers
-Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
-Cary Grant
-James (“Jimmy”) Stewart
-Barbra Streisand
-Kissinger’s view
-Kissinger's arrival in US as refugee
-Kissinger's past and future efforts
-Contact with McCarthy
-McGovern
Kissinger left at 4:49 pm.
Election campaign of 1972
-Poll
-Voters' approval of the President
-Administration's May 1972 poll
-Cause of increase
-Moscow summit
-Latest George H. Gallup polls
-The President's actions concerning Vietnam
-Voters' comparison of the President with McGovern
-Compared to latest poll by Gallup
21
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Voters' comparison of the President with McGovern and George C.
Wallace
-Compared to Gallup poll
-Two-way race
-Nixon-Agnew versus McGovern-Thomas F. Eagleton
Poll
-Voters' view of capital punishment
-Result of Gallup poll in March 1972
-Compared to polls in earlier years
-Capital punishment for specific crimes
-US Supreme Court decision
-Voters' view
-Impact on crime
-Criminal results of court's decision
-Voters' view of amnesty for draft-dodgers and others
-McGovern
-Voters' view of McGovern's proposals
-Immediate withdrawal from Vietnam
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Federal subsidy of personal income through personal income taxes
-Legalization and control of marijuana
-Alcohol
-Removal of legal strictures against abortion
-Patrick J. Buchanan's view
-McGovern’s position
-The President's opinion
-Catholics
-Buchanan’s view
-Amnesty for draft dodgers
-Prison
-Defense budget
-Cuts
-Soviet Union
-Gallup poll
-Busing of school-children
-Democratic National Convention
-McGovern’s speech
-Likelihood to vote for McGovern because of Democratic National Convention
-Genuine representation at Democratic National convention of voters
-Political innovation of Democratic National Convention
-Number of questions
-Sample size
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:55 pm.
The President's departure for Camp David
-Item
-Retrieval by Butterfield
John N. Mitchell
-Haldeman’s schedule
-Talk with Haldeman
Rose Mary Woods entered at 4:56 pm.
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
Butterfield left at 4:57 pm.
-Health
-Possible telephone call from Woods
-Schedule
Woods left at 4:58 pm.
Watergate
-Testimony
-Further information
The President’s schedule
-Camp David
-John B. Connally
-Accommodations
Stephen B. Bull entered at 4:58 pm.
-Transportation
Haldeman and Bull left at 4:59 pm.
Date: July 21, 1972
Time: 4:20 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
Kissinger's schedule
-Past meeting
-Kissinger's departure
-Briefing
Kissinger's meeting with Michael J. Mansfield
-Mansfield's trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]
-The President's approval
-Mansfield’s relationship with Kissinger and the President
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 16s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
*****************************************************************
Kissinger's meeting with group of eight senators
-Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr.
-Ted Stevens
-John Sherman Cooper
Administration's legislative activities
-Mansfield's concern about possible defeat of Administration's proposals
-Labor interests
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
Kissinger's meeting with eight senators
-Vietnam War
14
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Senators' reception of Kissinger's remarks
-Tone
-Negotiations
-Kissinger's assessment of Mansfield Amendment
-Advisability of passage
-Mansfield's remarks to meeting
-Mansfield’s relationship with the President
-Mansfield Amendment
-Chance of passage
Mansfield Amendment
-Efforts of administration’s supporters in Congress
-Ceasefire
-John C. Stennis
-Hugh Scott
-Impact on Paris negotiations
-1972 election
-George S. McGovern
-Administration's view
-Advice to Congressional supporters
-Possible vote
-McGovern
Kissinger's luncheon with Eugene J. McCarthy
-McCarthy's view of McGovern
-Catholics, Jews in high office
-McCarthy's assessment of Methodism
-McGovern’s domestic programs
-McGovern's economic advisors
-McCarthy’s view
-McGovern on American troops in Europe
-McCarthy's view
Vietnam negotiations
-McCarthy's view
-Administration's present view
-Democratic Party platform
-Communists in Vietnam
-South Vietnamese elections
-McCarthy's advice
-Administration's conduct
-McCarthy's possible assistance to Administration
15
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Discussion in Paris with Vietnamese communists
-McCarthy’s relationship to peace movement
-Public support in US
-McCarthy's view of McGovern supporters
-Behavior at Democratic National convention
-Treatment of McCarthy
-McCarthy's suggestions concerning Latin America
-The President's assessment of McCarthy
Kissinger's schedule
-Howard Stein
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 22s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
*****************************************************************
Kissinger’s trip to Moscow
-Scheduling and length
-September 1972
-Scheduling of announcement
-Labor Day
Negotiations for peace
-Private meetings
-Benefit to administration
-Scheduling
-William J. Porter to accompany Kissinger
-Kissinger’s intention
-Assumptions of other negotiators
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Republican National Convention
-The President’s schedule
-West Coast
16
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Kissinger’s trip to Japan
-Scheduling
-State Department
-Need to secure Kakuei Tanaka’s permission
-Tanaka’s approval
State Department and President's plans
-William D. Eberle
Kissinger’s conversation with Jerrold L. Schecter
-Negotiations for peace
-Reliability of Time’s informants
Dan Anders Holmberg’s report of American bombing
-Coverage by National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-North Vietnam
-Sluice-gate near Hanoi
-Civilian quarters of Hanoi
-Attitude of American public
The President's meeting with new South Vietnamese ambassador [Tran Kim Phoung]
-Ambassador’s children and wife
-Kissinger
-Nguyen Van Thieu's plans
-Marshall Green
-William P. Rogers
Vietnam War
-Recent military engagement
-News summary
-Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN]
-Route 1
-North Vietnamese
-Casualties
-Military casualties
-South Vietnamese
-North Vietnamese
-Developing battle
-North Vietnamese
-Reinforcements
-312th Division
-Plain Des Jarres
-American leaflet dropping
17
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Bombing by American B-52s
-320th training division
-Experience
-Present military campaign
-Communist attempt to seize Hue
-Communist attempt to retake Quang Tri
-ARVN
-Fortifications in city
-Citadel
-Communists’ estimated casualties
-ARVN’s offensive
-Air support
-Other results for communists
-Failed attempt to seize Kontum
-An Loc
-Road
-Vietnamese people
-Horrors of war for children
-Kissinger’s development of proposals for negotiating with communists
-Negotiations
-Kissinger’s development of proposals
-The President’s January 25, 1972 peace proposals
-Presentation
-Thieu
-Re-election
-Publicity
-1972 election
-Soviet Union
-Press relations
-Strengthening of American demands
-Schechter
-Implementary provisions of accords
-Ceasefire, election, electoral commission
-Prolonging war
-1972 election
-Effect on peace offer
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 3s ]
18
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
*****************************************************************
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 4:40 pm.
Kissinger's talk with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Kissinger’s forthcoming visit
-Draft treaty on nuclear weapons
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National security]
[Duration: 22s ]
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
*****************************************************************
-Contingency
-Signing
-Timing
-October 1972
-Television
-Satellite coverage
-President
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
Kissinger’s efforts
-The President’s schedule
-California
-Dealings with McCarthy and Mansfield
19
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Dealings with doves
The President's conversation with Kissinger
-Scott
-Proposed compromise
-Cease-fire
-Stennis
-Mansfield amendment
-William E. Timmons, Clark MacGregor
Kissinger's conversation with Mansfield
-Senatorial support for Mansfield Amendment
-Upcoming trip to PRC
-Mansfield's support for Mansfield Amendment
-Mansfield’s comments at meeting with Senators
-Duration of Mansfield's support
-Support by other senators
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 52s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
*****************************************************************
-Mansfield Amendment
-Mansfield’s support
-Chance of passage in Senate
-Compromise
-House of Representatives
-Effect on peace negotiations
-Benefits of passage to the President's administration
-McGovern's possible vote
20
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
**************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 13s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
**************************************************************************
Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra's farewell performance
-Songs from Sinatra's career
-Tommy Dorsey
-Audience's reaction to I Did It My Way
-Audience's reception
-Possible television appearance
-Secret Service agents
-Haldeman's view
-Preceding entertainers
-Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
-Cary Grant
-James (“Jimmy”) Stewart
-Barbra Streisand
-Kissinger’s view
-Kissinger's arrival in US as refugee
-Kissinger's past and future efforts
-Contact with McCarthy
-McGovern
Kissinger left at 4:49 pm.
Election campaign of 1972
-Poll
-Voters' approval of the President
-Administration's May 1972 poll
-Cause of increase
-Moscow summit
-Latest George H. Gallup polls
-The President's actions concerning Vietnam
-Voters' comparison of the President with McGovern
-Compared to latest poll by Gallup
21
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Voters' comparison of the President with McGovern and George C.
Wallace
-Compared to Gallup poll
-Two-way race
-Nixon-Agnew versus McGovern-Thomas F. Eagleton
Poll
-Voters' view of capital punishment
-Result of Gallup poll in March 1972
-Compared to polls in earlier years
-Capital punishment for specific crimes
-US Supreme Court decision
-Voters' view
-Impact on crime
-Criminal results of court's decision
-Voters' view of amnesty for draft-dodgers and others
-McGovern
-Voters' view of McGovern's proposals
-Immediate withdrawal from Vietnam
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Federal subsidy of personal income through personal income taxes
-Legalization and control of marijuana
-Alcohol
-Removal of legal strictures against abortion
-Patrick J. Buchanan's view
-McGovern’s position
-The President's opinion
-Catholics
-Buchanan’s view
-Amnesty for draft dodgers
-Prison
-Defense budget
-Cuts
-Soviet Union
-Gallup poll
-Busing of school-children
-Democratic National Convention
-McGovern’s speech
-Likelihood to vote for McGovern because of Democratic National Convention
-Genuine representation at Democratic National convention of voters
-Political innovation of Democratic National Convention
-Number of questions
-Sample size
22
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:55 pm.
The President's departure for Camp David
-Item
-Retrieval by Butterfield
John N. Mitchell
-Haldeman’s schedule
-Talk with Haldeman
Rose Mary Woods entered at 4:56 pm.
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
Butterfield left at 4:57 pm.
-Health
-Possible telephone call from Woods
-Schedule
Woods left at 4:58 pm.
Watergate
-Testimony
-Further information
The President’s schedule
-Camp David
-John B. Connally
-Accommodations
Stephen B. Bull entered at 4:58 pm.
-Transportation
Haldeman and Bull left at 4:59 pm.
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