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  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • John D. Ehrlichman
  • Nelson A. Rockefeller
  • Stephen B. Bull
  • Thelma C. Ryan "Pat" Nixon
  • Rogers C. B. Morton
  • John C. Whitaker
  • White House photographer
September 14, 1972
Conversation No. 776-8

Date: September 14, 1972
Time: 9:57 am - 11:23 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

Greetings

National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA] space shuttle contract
-Forthcoming meeting with Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Grumman Corporation
-Contract allotment
-North American Rockwell Corporation
-McDonnell Douglas
-Announcement time
-Rockefeller
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB]

Revenue sharing
-Rockefeller's stance
-Status of bill in Congress
-Senate allocation revisions
-New York's share
-Amendment to limit social services
-New York's interest
-New York politics
-Meeting in Florida between the President and Rockefeller
-Future state legislation
-Promise of White House aid
-Rockefeller's schedule
-New York
-St. Louis
-Allocation formula on revenue sharing
-Possible photograph
-Ronald L. Ziegler

Rockefeller entered at 10:03 am.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)


Greetings
-St. Louis trip
-Christopher S. (“Kit”) Bond

Revenue sharing bill
-Rockefeller’s role
-Camp David
-Conference Committee in Congress
-Administration actions
-Ehrlichman
-Support
-Proposal for meeting
-Nation's leaders
-Governors
-Major city mayors
-John V. Lindsay
-County officals
-East Room
-Signing ceremony
-Logistics for meeting
-Proposed dates
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Ways and Means Committee
-Russell B. Long
-Aid for bill
-Hugh L. Carey
-Barber B. Conable
-Bipartisan nature of guest list
-Number of attendees
-Formula
-New York
-Amendments for bill
-Revision of New York's share
-Rockefeller's staff
-Lobbying efforts
-Social service restriction
-Effect on New York
-Mills
-Expanded ceiling
-Aid to big states
-Arkansas
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-White House stand on bill
-Proposed revisions
-Options for states
-Long plan
-Mills plan
-James Cannon
-Proposed changes
-Growth money
-Available budget money
-Dual formulas
-Industrial states
-Rural states
-Mills
-Possibility of passage
-Treasury Department
-Conflict among states
-Income tax
-Distribution
-Rockefeller’s future meeting with Ehrlichman
-Herman T. Schneebeli
-Pennsylvania
-Support for revision
-Mills
-Ceiling on budget
-Cannon
-White House position
-Effect on social programs
-Political effect
-Democrats' reaction
-Senate actions

Budget ceiling
-New York's position

White House domestic policy
-Benefits to New York
-Ehrlichman's aid
-State bankruptcy
-Lindsay
-Treasury Department
-Budget
-George P. Shultz
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)


The President's Administration
-Aid to New York state
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-John F. Kennedy
-Lyndon B. Johnson

Rockefeller governership
-Time in office
-1958 election
-Fourth term
-John A. Love
-California
-Demographics
-New York City
-Democratic support
-Thomas E. Dewey
-Whitman Knapp Commission
-Criminal justice system
-Rockefeller action
-District attorneys
-Administration's aid
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]

Law enforcement
-Washington, D.C.
-The President’s view
-Tourism
-New York City
-Police department
-Lindsay
-Egil G. (\"Bud\") Krogh, Jr.
-Crime rate
-Democrats' position
-Ernst and Ernst Accounting firm
-Audit
-Washington, D.C.
-Crime rate
-Effect on tourists
-Madison Hotel
-District Attorney investigations
-Police department
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-Dewey
-New York state plan
-Rockefeller efforts
-Maurice Nadtari
-Experience
-Owens [?] [first name unknown]
-Suffolk County
-Appointment
-Effect
-Police force
-District Attorney's office
-Judges
-Criminal justice investigation
-Corruption in goverment
-Knapp Commission
-White House aid
-Lindsay

NASA contract
-North American Rockwell announcement
-Sub-contracts
-Grumman
-Engineering
-Logistics of announcement
-Congress position
-Timing
-Future Rockefeller briefing
-Cannon
-Krogh
-Ehrlichman
-NASA
-Budget
-McDonnell Douglas
-Grumman
-OMB recommendation
-Krogh
-New York politics
-North American Rockwell
-Long Island's economic interest


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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)


BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 15m 36s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Watergate
-Rockefeller
-Television appearance
-Upcoming indictments
-Democratic National Committee
-Maurice H. Stans
-John N. Mitchell
-Public opinion
-1968 Nixon campaign plane
-J. Edgar Hoover
-Johnson
-Dirty tricks
-Vietnam war
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-W. Ramsey Clark
-Pierre Salinger
-George S. McGovern
-1968 campaign
-FBI
-Johnson
-Telephones to state governors
-James B. (\"Scotty\") Reston
-Mitchell’s recent conversation with the President
-Reston’s meeting with Rockefeller
-Republican National Convention in Miami, 1968
-Rockefeller
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Pentagon Papers
-National security
-Leaks
-India-Pakistan conflict
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)


Administration’s plans for second term
-The President’s call to Rockefeller
-Dewey
-Stewart J.O. Alsop
-Formulation of new programs
-Ehrlichman
-State of Union address
-International activities, November 1972
-Domestic Council staff
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-State of Union address
-Revenue sharing
-Government reorganization
-Environment
-Housing
-Need for change
-Urban transportation
-Use of highway funds
-Domestic emphasis
-Administration's international accomplishments
-First term accomplishments
-The President’s recent meeting with Congressional leaders
-Reorganization of Post Office and Cabinet
-Environmental laws
-Revenue sharing
-Public perception
-International policies
-[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
-Harry S. Truman
-Greek-Turkish aid plan
-George C. Marshall Plan
-The President
-Arms control
-Congress
-Initiative by the President

Domestic issues
-Executive-legislative relations
-New Majority
-Legislative implications
-New Republican majority
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-Robert J. Dole
-Allied Democrats
-Need for electoral mandate
-Need for supportive Congress
-Johnson
-1956 election
-Kennedy
-1968 election
-Effect on second term
-Franklin D. Roosevelt's first hundred days
-US Bicentennial celebration
-Foundation for future

Re-organization of Federal Government
-Eisenhower's efforts
-Rapid changes
-Need for changes
-Regulatory agencies
-Interstate Commerce Commission [ICC]
-Railroads
-Trucking companies, shipping yards
-Anti-trust laws

Agriculture

US energy issues
-Rockefeller’s view
-The President’s view
-Laurance S. Rockefeller
-Nuclear fuel
-Delays in reactor openings
-Con-Edison Power Company
-Oil companies
-Lack of capital for 1980 goals
-New York Times article
-Oil depletion allowance
-Natural gas
-Lack of incentive
-Prices
-Robert S. Kerr-Mills bill
-The President’s vote
-Free enterprise system
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-Government's role
-Lack of fuel
-Arab countries
-Oil resources
-Added revenues
-Use
-Cooperative efforts

Role of Federal Government
-Restructuring of regulatory functions
-Reappraisal of tax structure
-Mills
-Role of states in US
-Possible study
-Congress' role
-Rockefeller’s view
-John B. Connally’s view
-Cannon
-Proposed Congressional commission
-Future plans
-Environmental issue
-Paper
-Illustrations
-Energy issue
-Housing

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:03 am.

The President’s schedule
-Rogers C.B. Morton

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.

Government reorganization
-1972 election
-Inaugural address, 1973

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:03 am.

The President’s schedule

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)


-New direction for youth
-Vietnam war
-Need for new governmental framework
-Opposing factions

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon entered at 11:01 am.

Greetings

Possible speech
-Social services

Morton and John C. Whitaker entered at 11:02 am.

[Members of the press and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of this
meeting.]

Greetings

Yellowstone National Park
-One hundredth anniversary

Mrs. Nixon’s schedule
-Dedication of highway
-Yellowstone

Rockefeller proposals
-California

Ehrlichman and Rockefeller left at 11:02 am.


Morton's discussion with Johnson
-Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
-Johnson's health

[Photograph session]
-[General conversation]

National parks centennial
-Morton’s press briefing
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-Public interest
-Park use
-Monthly visitations
-Increase in visitors
-New visitors
-Tour of park system
-Yellowstone
-Tetons
-Rocky Mountains
-The President's visit to Grand Tetons
-Grand Canyon
-Morton's role as Secretary of the Interior
-Teton National Park
-Snake River overlook
-Child from Detroit
-Public land
-Protectiveness of nation
-Alaska
-The President's park program
-Effect on public

National parks situation
-Energy issue
-Mrs. Nixon schedule
-Yellowstone trip
-Apparel
-Anne Morton
-Message
-Schedule
-Trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:02 am.

[General conversation]
-Dogs
-Vicky
-Dog house
-Gift

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:23 am.

Park Service discussion
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-Mrs. Nixon’s role
-President’s representative
-Domestic Conference Panel
-Congress participation
-White Paper study
-International aspects
-Stockholm convention
-Heritage trust around the world
-Technical services
-Offer to all nations
-Mrs. Nixon's role
-Americans abroad
-Mrs. Nixon's speech before conference
-Morton's birthday
-Crowds
-Western states
-Montana
-Wyoming
-Idaho
-North and South Dakota
-Colorado
-World Conference on Parks
-History of National Parks Service
-Preservation of land
-Ulysses S. Grant
-First park bill
-Environmentalists' impact
-Universal use of park
-Charles A. Lindbergh
-Core of untouched parks
-Wilderness areas
-Need for facilities
-Family attractions
-Backpackers
-Yosemite
-Buses
-Anne Morton's schedule
-Campfires for backpackers
-Flamingo Park
-Miami
-Tour of Mount McKinley
-Yosemite
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-Youth
-Support for the President
-Mrs. Nixon's schedule
-Two-day tour
-New Jersey
-New York
-Morton's schedule
-Shakerstown, Kentucky
-Louis B. Nunn
-Dedication ceremony
-National Parks
-Effect on public
-Future use

Park Services
-Defeat of Wayne N. Aspinall in election
-Redistricting
-Aspinall’s age
-Urbanization of West
-Urbanization of West
-Western ethic
-New demographics
-Sheep herders, ranchers
-Gordon Allot
-Denver
-Greeley, Colorado
-Floyd Haskell
-1976 Olympic Games funding vote
-Denver
-Colorado
-Aspinall
-Administration's policy
-Love
-Munich games
-Environmentalism
-Love
-National Land Use Policy Act
-Organic bill for public land
-Failure of passage

Congress
-Age
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)

-The President’s view
-Strom Thurmond
-John J. Sparkman
-Age
-Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
-John L. McClellan
-Allen J. Ellender
-Judges
-Mandatory retirement bill
-John B. Williams
-Industry
-Supreme Court
-Lewis F. Powell

Parting remarks
-Rockefeller story
-Thomas F. Eagleton
-Edward M. Kennedy

Mrs. Nixon et al. left at 11:23 am.
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