792–1

Conversation No. 792-1

Date: October 5, 1972
Time: 11:05 a.m.-12:10 p.m.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Frank Cormier, Gaylord Shaw, Eugene V. Risher, Norm Kempster,
Ralph Harris, Pat Heggernan, Marc Hutten, Claude Moisy, Gene Carlson, Thomas E. Jarriel,
Robert Pierpoint, Dave Breasted, Gary Axelson, Forrest Boyd, Mike Maus, Cliff Evans, Fay G.
Wells, Donald Fulsom, Gil Butler, Charles Van Dyke, Thomas Girard, Peter Kumpa, Phil P.
Potter, Sal Micciche, Lucian C.(“Lou”) Warren, Peter Lisagor, Tom Littlewood, Fred Farrar,
Courtney Sheldon, Karen Elliott, Jerald F. (“Jerry”) terHorst, Sarah McClendon, John Cauley,
Bob Toth, Frank Wright, Frank van der Linden, Paul Healy, Stan Carter, Robert B. Semple,Jr.,
Martin Schram, Larry O'Rourke, Jim Deakin, Jim Gannon, Carroll Kilpatrick, Garnett D.
(“Jack”) Horner, Mary McGrory, Jim Carey, David Barnett, Robert Boyd, Donald Bacon, Bruce
Agnew, Hugh S. Sidey, Henry Hubbard, John F. Osborne, Jerrold L. Schecter, Howard Norton,
John P. (“Jack”) Sutherland, Al Sullivan, Bill Sprague, Roy McCartney, Dave de-Segonzac, Fred
Bonavita, Frank Kane, Ed O'Brien, Kenji Wakamatsu, Akira Noguchi, Hiroshi Kondo, Jin Tae
Hong, Tatsuro Matsumura, H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler and Patrick J. Buchanan.

[This press conference of the following conversation may be found in Public Papers of the
President, 1972, pp. 952-962]

1972 campaign
-Corruption charges
-Response
-The President’s partisan advisors
-Member of Congress [Jerome Waldie]
-Democratic party
-Press
-George McGovern
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Motives

Vietnam
-Negotiated settlement
-Timing
-1972 election
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-South Vietnam
-North Vietnamese
-South Vietnam
-Communist government
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Cease-fire
-Bombing halt
-1968
-Negotiations
-Status
-Possible election of Democratic president
-1968 election
-Bombing halt
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Hanoi
-Polls
-South Vietnam
-Communist government
-Bombing purpose
-Lisagor
-Mining
-San Clemente
-South Vietnam
-Predictions
-Time
-Newsweek
-New York Times
-Washington Post
-Network commentators
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
-Communist takeover
-Critics
-Mining
-US-Soviet Union summit
-View
-Credence
-Mining
-South Vietnam
-Provincial capitals
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US-Soviet Union grain deal
-Allegations
-Earl L. Butz
-House Committee on Agriculture
-Big Six grain dealers
-Wheat growers
-Southwest
-[Federal Bureau of Investigation] [FBI]
-The President’s recent conversation with Andrei A. Gromyko
-Capitalists
-Benefits to US
-Farm payments
-Costs
-Benefits
-Farmers
-Farm income
-Jobs
-American merchant marine
-Farming and processing
-Tax payers
-Storage costs
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Japanese
-Balance of trade
-Balance of payments
-Terms
-Peter G. Peterson
-Butz
-Inside information
-Role of aide [Clarence D. Palmby] in negotiations
-Butz
-July 8, 1972, announcement
-San Clemente
-US-Soviet Union trade agreement
-Economic negotiations
-Compared to arms control negotiations
-Palmby’s trip to the Soviet Union

Property tax relief
-John D. Ehrlichman statement
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-Federal Government
-Payment to states
-Tax increase
-Priorities
-The President’s meeting with Robert E. Merriam
-Advisory Committee on Intergovernmental Relations
[ACIR]
-Retired people
-Tax burden
-George P. Shultz
-Congress
-Reducing tax burden
-Elderly

Watergate
-[FBI]
-Investigation
-Alger Hiss case
-Comparisons
-Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
-Grand Jury
-Indictments
-Statements on legal cases
-Charles Manson case
-Denver
-California

Campaigning
-Warren
-Avoiding tax increase
-Congress
-The President’s previous statements in San Clemente
and San Francisco
-Adjournment
-Spending
-Tax increase for 1973
-Budget ceiling
-Bills
-Budget
-Tax income
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-Possible vetoes
-Democrats
-Budget
-Vetoes
-Limits on the President’s travels

1972 election predictions
-1968 election
-Electoral votes
-Goal
-Polls
-Voter turnout
-Pollsters
-Margin of vote
-1964
-George H. Gallup
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Polls
-Reliability
-Popular and electoral vote
-New American majority
-Republicans, Democrats and Independants

Presidential availability
-Press conferences
-Presentation of positions
-Taxes
-Tax increase
-Ehrlichman
-Shultz
-Camp David
-Radio speech by the President, October 7, 1972
-Press coverage
-Press conferences
-Press role
-Potter
-Preparation for press conference
-The President’s previous conversation on airplane
-DC-3
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-Speech writing
-John Foster Dulles

Welfare reform
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Minimum income assistance for poor
-Second term
-Senate
-William V. Roth, Jr.
-Work requirement
-Working poor
-Budget
-Welfare rolls
-Work requirement
-Senate and House of Representatives

Busing
-Senate bill
-Constitutional amendment
-Issues
-Amnesty
-Tax increases
-Defense cuts
-Soviet Union
-Domestic proposals
-The President’s 1972 State of the Union Address
-Sample
-Health
-Government reorganization
-Welfare reform
-Congress's response
-Northern cities
-Southern cities
-Possible legislation
-Compared to Constitutional amendment
-Legislative process

[End of Public Papers 1972, pp. 952-962]

[General conversation]
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-Unknown book


The President's clothing
-Tie
-Manolo Sanchez
-Blue tie
-[Stet] Goodman
-Design

Newsday

Everyone except Haldeman left at 11:42 am.

-Frequency

Press conferences
-John A. Scali’s view
-Preparation
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Charles W. Colson
-Memorandum
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Scali
-Busing

An unknown woman entered at an unknown time after 11:42 am.

The President's schedule
-Scali
-Colson

Suit
-Cost

The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 11:47 am.

Press conference
-Critique
-The President’s style
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-Oval Office
-Television [TV]
-Equal time

The President's schedule
-Forthcoming Radio Address on Federal Spending
-Timing
-Radio, TV

An unknown woman entered at an unknown time after 11:42 am.

The President’s schedule
-Ziegler

The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 11:47 am.

Camp David

Clark MacGregor entered at 11:47 am.

The President’s recent press conference
-Radio
-Purchase of airtime
-Rebroadcast
-Polls
-New majority
-Goldwater
-Issues
-Amnesty, spending increases, defense cuts, domestic proposals
-Sample
-MacGregor’s view
-Welfare
-Press release
-Single standard
-Radio tape
-Possible office press conference
-Timing

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:47 am.
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Colson
-Ehrlichman

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:50 am.

Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Seattle
-Pacific Northwest

The President’s recent press conference
-Tax increase
-Ehrlichman
-Scali’s view
-MacGregor’s recent conversation with Colson and Ehrlichman
-Distribution of text of the President’s remarks
-Purchase of radio time

Scali entered at 11:50 am.

-Questions
-Audibility

Press conferences
-Press relations
-San Clemente
-Office
-TV
-Equal time
-Networks
-Office
-Press relations
-Scali’s view
-McGovern
-Press

Ehrlichman and Ziegler entered at 11:52 am.

Ehrlichman's schedule
-Seattle
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Synthetic natural gas
-Administration position
-Timing
-1972 election
-Oil producers
-John B. Connally
-Upcoming call from Ehrlichman

Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Fund raising dinner
-George Jessel

The President’s recent press conference
-Possible office press conference
-Radio coverage

Colson entered at 11:53 am.

-Tone
-CRP
-Purchase of political time
-Radio
-Frequency of press conferences
-McGovern
-Press conference as platform for presentation of issues
-Presidential posture
-Questions
-Foreign policy
-McGrory
-Proposed question
-Ehrlichman
-Adjournment of Congress
-Timing of another press conference
-Democrats
-Waldie
-Washington Post
-Agnew
-United Press International [UPI]
-McGovern
-Charges of corruption
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-Vietnam
-Nazis
-Jews
-Tax increase 1973
-Congressional overspending
-Vietnam settlement
-Negotiations
-Status
-Timing
-1972 election
-Bombing halt
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Gromyko

Press conference
-Timing
-McGregor’s view
-Scali’s view
-Colson’s view
-Zieglers’s view
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Potter
-The President's schedule
-Atlanta
-New York
-Oval Office compared with East Room
-Size
-Equal time
-[McGovern]

TV Guide
-Joyce Brothers
-Agnew
-Relationship
-TV show
-Article on press conferences
-Question
-Length

Press conference
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-Questions
-Networks
-Wire services
-Lisagor
-McClendon
-White House press corps
-Ziegler
-East Room
-Foreign policy
-[Watergate]
-Radio coverage
-McClendon
-Single standard
-Manson
-McClendon question on Watergate
-Tone
-Answer
-Answer McGovern's charge of corruption
-Answer
-Comparisons to Adolph Hitler
-PRC
-Soviet Union
-The President’s partisan advisors
-Mexican children

Welfare
-Abraham A. Ribicoff
-HR 1
-Russell B. Long
-Possible filibuster
-Work requirements
-Welfare rolls
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Coverage of speech

The President's schedule

Watergate
-Wiretaps
-Listening
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-Accusation
-MacGregor, William E. Timmons
-Anecdote
-Bob
-FBI
-Red Squad, San Francisco

Haldeman, Scali, Ziegler, and Colson left at 12:09 pm.

-Tapes monitoring of unknown woman
-House Un-American Activities Committee

MacGregor left at 12:09 pm.

Synthetic natural gas
-Administration position
-Timing
-Peter G. Peterson
-1972 election

The President’s recent press conference
-Press relations
-Single standard
-Manson
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Effectiveness
-Rebroadcast

Ehrlichman left at 12:10 pm.