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Conversation No. 806-7

Date: October 24, 1972
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Time: Unknown between 10:04 am and 11:15 am
Location: Oval Office


The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry A. Kissinger and William P. Rogers.

Press photograph session
-Length of time
-Press
-Mood of meeting

Ziegler left and entered at an unknown time after 10:04 am; the White House photographer and
members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

Vietnam negotiations
-Le Duc Tho

[Photograph session]

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 11:04 am.

Vietnam negotiations
-Withdrawal
-Time frame
-Le Duc Tho
-South Vietnam
-Kissinger’s conversation with [Nguyen Van Thieu], October 23, 1972
-Treatment of Ellsworth F. Bunker, Kissinger and US
Delegation
-Meeting of Thieu and Bunker
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Postponement
-Cancellation
-Telephone call from Hoang Duc Nha
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Thieu charges
-Kissinger’s staff
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s staff
-Thieu
-Forthcoming broadcast
-Timing
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-Coalition government
-Foreign ministry dispatch
-Bunker
-Thieu's strategy
-Rallies
-Press and public perception
-Obstacle to peace
-US strategy
-Private compared to public negotiations
-Message from North Vietnam
-Haig’s conversation with Rogers
-Rogers's conversation with William H. Sullivan
-Provisions of settlement
-October 17, 1972 meeting with Xuan Thuy
-Political provisions
-Elections
-Constituent assemblies
-Composition of international supervising bodies
-Secretary General of the United Nations [UN]
-India
-Cadres in South Vietnamese jails
-Replacement of South Vietnamese arms
-Timing of signing
-October 31, 1972
-Prisoners
-Sullivan’s recommendation
-Issues
-Weapons replacement
-Semantic differences
-Written statement
-Return of prisoners of war [POWs]
-Democratic Republic of Vietnam [DRV] [North Vietnam]
-Schedule
-Laos, Cambodia
-Cease-fire
-Laos
-Cambodia
-Le Duc Tho’s meetings with Kissinger, September 26-27, October 8,
11, 1972
-DRV
-Foreign forces withdrawal
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-Ban on introduction troops, armaments, war material
-US
-Political settlement
-Article 15B
-POWs
-DRV
-September, October 1972 meetings
-Laos
-Cease-fire
-October 31, 1972
-POWs
-December 30, 1972
-Souvanna Phouma
-Sullivan’s briefing
-View
-Thailand
-Sullivan’s briefing
-Lon Nol
-Kissinger’s briefing
-View
-Southeast Asia
-South Vietnam
-Thieu
-Meeting with Kissinger
-The President’s letter
-National Security Council [NSC] of Vietnam
-Size
-Prime Minister, Chief of Staff, Foreign Minister
-Schedule
-October 31, 1972
-US equipment replacement
-NSC of South Vietnam meeting
-Kissinger, Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr., Bunker
-Sullivan
-NSC of Vietnam
-Questions
-Reinforcement, replacement provision
-Abrams’s meeting with Gen. Cao Van Vien
-Thieu
-Task force
-Foreign Minister
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-Changes recommended by South Vietnam
-Force withdrawal
-US and North Vietnamese forces and bases
-National Council of National Reconciliation and Concord
-Coalition government
-Pham Van Dong interview with Arnaud de Borchgrave
-Message from the President to Kissinger
-North Vietnam concessions
-Cambodia
-Kissinger’s schedule
-NSC of South Vietnam
-Cease-fire
-Implementation
-Unilateral action, National Assembly
-Bunker
-Lon Nol
-Thieu stance
-Modifications to agreement
-Article 9G
-North Vietnamese troops in Military Region [MR] 1
-North Vietnamese troops in South Vietnam
-Charges
-Betrayal
-People’s Republic of China [PRC], Soviet Union
-Private meetings
-Information
-Press campaign
-Bunker, Sullivan
-Request that Thieu step down
-Cease-fire
-Withdrawal of North Vietnamese
-October 1970, January, May 1972
-The President’s speeches
-Thieu’s resignation
-US action before election
-1956 analogy
-Poland
-Article about expulsion of Eastern Europe’s Jozsef Cardinal
Mindszenty and Stefan Cardinal Wyszynski
-Charge
-Assassination coup
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-Ngo Dinh Diem
-US officials
-US readiness to sign agreement
-Notification of North Vietnam
-Articles 7 and 8
-Changes in agreement
-Request for meeting with North Vietnam
-Nature
-Cease-fire
-Sullivan
-Article 9G
-North Vietnamese troops in South Vietnam
-Kissinger's conversation with Gen. Fredrick C. Weyand


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-MR III situation
-Military intelligence
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Saigon
-Gen. Duong Van Minh
-Extent of Communist control
-Future compared to present situation
-Weyland’s and other’s view
-Infiltration
-US strategy
-Le Duc Tho
-Changing agreement after signing
-Bilateral action
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-Future US relations with North Vietnam
-Military prospects
-Bombing
-North Vietnamese troops in South Vietnam
-Economic prospects
-Five year economic agreement
-Economic commission between US and DRV
-Effect on continuing war
-Soviet Union, PRC
-US forces in Thailand
-Quality of agreement
-Souvanna Phouma’s and Lon Nol’s view
-Thieu
-Tenure
-Upcoming broadcast
-Coalition government
-Rallies
-Kissinger’s conversation with Bunker
-Possible plans
-Resistance to US and independent action
-Cease-fire
-Face saving device for North Vietnam
-Sabotage
-North Vietnam’s stance
-Concessions
-US strategy
-US message to Thieu
-US support
-Agreement provisions
-US economy and military aid
-Murrey Marder
-Upcoming broadcast
-Timing
-Coalition government
-US handling
-Possible effect on US foreign policy
-Coalition government
-Future of South Vietnam
-Self -determination
-Definition
-Elections in South Vietnam
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-US stance
-Vietcong [VC]
-Electoral commission
-May 1969, January 25, 1972
-Political provisions
-May 1969, January 25, 1972
-May 8, 1972 cease-fire provisions
-Type of elections
-South Vietnam’s determination
-Possible North Vietnamese pressure to accept agreement
-North Vietnamese publication of agreement terms
-Strategy
-Solution of lesser points
-Administrative structure phrasing
-Disposition of forces
-Meeting
-1972 election
-Cambodia
-Resignation
-The President’s January 25, 1972 peace proposals
-Provisions in agreement
-DRV
-Coalition government
-Dong
-North Vietnamese public stance
-US strategy
-Parties to agreement
-Countering possible North Vietnamese publicity
-Working out details
-North Vietnamese
-Upcoming broadcast
-Bunker
-Content
-Possible victory claim
-Motives
-Confidence of South Vietnamese
-US strategy
-US benefits from agreement
-Settlement before 1972 election
-Progress
-South Vietnam embassy statement
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-Rogers, Ziegler
-Thieu
-Mental state
-Bunker’s view
-Rogers’s view
-Meeting with Haig
-North Vietnamese publication of agreement terms
-Victory celebrations
-Settlement before 1972 election
-Bunker
-US pressure
-Election deadline
-Right kind of agreement
-Progress
-Public announcement
-South Vietnam’s embassy statement
-Ziegler
-Implementation of settlement terms
-Cease-fire
-Thieu’s meetings
-Working groups about expediting withdrawal
-Thieu
-Behavior


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-South Vietnamese CIA
-CIA
-Equipment
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-Thieu loyalty measures
-Flags
-Purchase of blue materials
-Possible massacre
-1972 election
-Pressure on Thieu
-Thieu’s possible fall
-US public reaction
-Effect on others
-Japanese
-Indonesians
-Filipinos
-South Koreans
-Laos
-International Control Commission [ICC]
-India
-Soviet Union, PRC
-Souvanna Phouma
-Reaction
-Sullivan
-Thais
-Souvanna Phouma
-War in Laos
-Souvanna Phouma
-Bridge playing with French, US ambassadors
-Sullivan
-Thieu
-Domestic problems
-US withdrawal, cease-fire
-North Vietnam
-Deadline
-October 31, 1972
-US public stance
-Progress
-Terms
-Honorable peace

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:05 am.

The President's schedule
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-Fritz G.A. Kraemer

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:04 am.

Vietnam negotiations
-Settlement
-Timing
-Dong and [Thieu]
-George S. McGovern
-Strategy
-Response
-Progress
-Thieu
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Credit
-Kissinger’s forthcoming telephone call to Rogers

Rogers left at 11:04 am.

The President's schedule
-Meeting with Kraemer
-Kissinger

Vietnam negotiations
-Message
-Timing

Kissinger left at an unknown time before 11:15 am.