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871–5
- President Richard M. Nixon
- Thomas A. Pappas
- George P. Shultz
- Henry A. Kissinger
March 7, 1973
Conversation No. 871-5
Date: March 7, 1973
Time: 10:54 am - 11:41 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Thomas C. Pappas; the White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting.
Photographs
-Trustworthiness
Henry J. Tasca
-Assignment
-New position
-Assistant secretary
-Economic area
-Ambassador to Greece
-Retention
-Retention in Greece
-George P. Shultz's conversation with Tasca
-Talk with Pappas
-Experience in Korea
-Tasca's wishes on assignment
-Greece
-Italy
-28-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
-John A. Volpe
-State Department
-Middle East desk
Greek prime minister [George Papadopoulos
-State visit
-Anti-communist
-Problems
-State Department
-President’s support
-Compared with Norway, Denmark
-Timing of state visit
-Greece’s independence
-Pappas’s conversation
-Pappas's visit to Washington, DC
-Support for president
-Respect, administration
-Other countries
-Italy, France, Balkans
-Prisoners of war [POWs] return
-Col. Robinson Risner [?]
-Visit to us
-Talk with President
-Problems
Frank Birch [?]
-Friend of Nixon family
-Acquaintance with President
-Gas distributor
-Whittier
-Conflict with oil companies
-Pappas’s financial assistance
-Partnership with Standard Oil
Watergate
-Pappas' activities
-President's knowledge
-Maurice H. Stans
-Gratitude
-Stans
-29-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Innocence
-John N. Mitchell
-Innocence
-Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
-Involvement
-Guilt
-Low level staff
-Break-in
-White House involvement
-Pappas's support
-Break-in
-Democratic National Committee [DNC]
-Value
Paper for President
-Copy for Shultz
Meeting with Shultz
-Arrival
-Trip to Europe
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:54 am.
Copies of a paper
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.
Dinner for the President's supporters in the business community
-Attendees
-Army Chorus
-“Stout-Hearted Man”
-Tricia Nixon Cox, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. (“Pat”)
Shultz
-Pappas’s greeting
1960 election
-Pappas, Leonard Garment
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
Shultz entered at 11:01 am.
Pappas's memo on international monetary situation
Pappas left at 11:02 am.
Shultz's trip to Europe
-Length of time
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Itinerary
-Paris
-Bonn
-Moscow
-Bonn
-London
-Brussels
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:02 am.
Schedule
-Henry A. Kissinger's attendance at meeting
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:10 am.
Shultz's trip
-Original schedule
-Rome, Moscow
-Paris meeting
-Meeting with Italians
-USSR
-Shultz's talk with Kissinger
-Political considerations
-Aleksei N. Kosygin
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
US-USSR trade
-Agreement [?]
-Guidance [?]
-Gas
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Most Favored Nation [MFN] status
-President’s position
-Support
-Soviet Jewry
-Golda Meir
Kissinger entered at 11:10 am.
US-USSR trade
-MFN status
-President’s commitment
-US position on internal affairs in USSR
-Soviet Jewry
-Kissinger's talk with Dobrynin
-Brezhnev
-Shultz’s talks with USSR
-Avoidance of topic of Soviet Jewry
-Congress
-Jackson Amendment
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:10 am.
Refreshment
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:39 am.
US-USSR trade
-MFN status
-Shultz’s talks with USSR
-Jackson Amendment
-USSR domestic issue
-Avoidance of topic of Soviet Jewry
-Rearrangement of procedure
-President’s commitment
-Brezhnev
-Re-approachment
-Kissinger’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Natural gas
-Shultz's handling
-32-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-Shultz’s analysis
-Price increases in US
-Speculation
-Supplies
-Impact on USSR prices
-Protocol
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-Concessions
-Gas companies
-John B. Connally
-William E. Simon
-Negotiating protocol
-US subsidies
-Role of President in negotiations
-Brezhnev's relationship with President
-Significance for US-USSR diplomacy
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Space agreements
-Environment
-Middle East
-Europe
-Vietnam
-Mining
-Brezhnev's role
-Visit to US
-Export-Import Bank of the US [Ex-Im bank]
-Credits for USSR
-Kissinger’s talk with [First name unknown] Voroskov [?]
-Shultz’s meeting with [First name unknown] Kemov [?]
-Kemov’s meeting with [First name unknown] St. Rego [?]
-Grain trade
-Shultz's view
-Surpluses
-US farm subsidies
-Problems
-Impact on markets of Soviet purchases
-Sales to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-33-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
PRC
-David Packard
-Meeting with President
-Contract
-Research and development [R & D]
-Delays
-Coordinating Committee on Export Controls [COCOM] [?]
-Value of PRC trade
-Kissinger's telephone call
-COCOM [?] list
-Overrule
International monetary situation
-US leadership
-Germany
-Political problem
-Intervention
-William H. G. Fitzgerald
-Partner of Hornblower and Weeks
-Conversation with Shultz
-Europe
-Need for US leadership
-Flexible response
-Europe’s reaction
-German secretary
-Intervention
-US exchange rate adjustments
-Reluctance
-Political benefits
-Germany and Japan
-Common float
-US support
-Germany’s reaction
-National float
-Domestic political consequences
-Germany
-Shultz’s talk with Helmut H. W. Schmidt
-Moderated common float
-Germany, Benelux, Switzerland, Denmark, Scandinavia
-34-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-France’s absence
-US cooperation
-Managing currency floats
-Flexible guidelines
-Arthur F. Burns’s recommendation
-Japan
-Exchange rate adjustment
-Basket exchange rate adjustment
-Defense of rates
-Floating currency regimes
-Concerns
-Defense of exchange rates
-French elections
-Gaullists compared with Socialist victory
-Coalition with Center Party
-Chile election
-Press coverage
-Electoral margin
-Gerrymander
-Impact on political like
-Giscard d'Estaing
-Monetary preferences
-Intervention
-Shultz's visit
-Georges J. R. Pompidou
-Statements regarding France
-Monetary position
-Gaulist Party
-Pompidou
-Kissinger's talk with French Ambassador [Jacques Kosciusko-
Morizet
-Shultz's statements
-US leadership
-Support for Pompidou
-Germany
-Schmidt
-Call to Kissinger
-Political views
-Successor to Willy Brandt
-35-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Domestic position
-US role
-Floating German Mark
-US role
-Germany’s resolution
-Intervention
-Relationship to US dollar
-Removal of bans
-Stabilization of Mark
-Relationship to Franc
-Floating Franc
-Impact on farm sector
-Political fallout in Germany
-US cooperativeness
-Massive intervention
-Yen, Franc, Mark
-Schmidt
-Diplomatic manner
-Domestic situation
-National float
-Call to Kissinger
-US support
-Flexible system
-Impact on France-Germany relations
President’s schedule
Treasury Department
-Helmut (“Hal”) Sonnenfeldt
-Abilities
-Work at Treasury
-East-West trade, USSR trade
-Kissinger's agreement with Shultz
-June 1973 US-USSR summit
Kissinger left at 11:39 am.
Commission on Industrial Peace
-Organization
-36-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Management Committee
-Subgroups
-Transportation
-Mass production
-David Coe
-Steel strike
-Chairman
-Frank E. Fitzsimmons
-Meeting with John T. Dunlop
-Concerns about James M. Roche
-General Motors [GM], chief executive
George Meany
-Dunlop
5.5 per cent wage settlement
-Meeting with Shultz and Dunlop
-5.5 per cent wage settlement
-President’s support
-Press relations
-President’s statement
-2.5 per cent inflation rate
-Meeting with Dunlop
-Shultz’s return
-Labor-management Advisory Committee
The President and Shultz left at 11:41 am.
Date: March 7, 1973
Time: 10:54 am - 11:41 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Thomas C. Pappas; the White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting.
Photographs
-Trustworthiness
Henry J. Tasca
-Assignment
-New position
-Assistant secretary
-Economic area
-Ambassador to Greece
-Retention
-Retention in Greece
-George P. Shultz's conversation with Tasca
-Talk with Pappas
-Experience in Korea
-Tasca's wishes on assignment
-Greece
-Italy
-28-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
-John A. Volpe
-State Department
-Middle East desk
Greek prime minister [George Papadopoulos
-State visit
-Anti-communist
-Problems
-State Department
-President’s support
-Compared with Norway, Denmark
-Timing of state visit
-Greece’s independence
-Pappas’s conversation
-Pappas's visit to Washington, DC
-Support for president
-Respect, administration
-Other countries
-Italy, France, Balkans
-Prisoners of war [POWs] return
-Col. Robinson Risner [?]
-Visit to us
-Talk with President
-Problems
Frank Birch [?]
-Friend of Nixon family
-Acquaintance with President
-Gas distributor
-Whittier
-Conflict with oil companies
-Pappas’s financial assistance
-Partnership with Standard Oil
Watergate
-Pappas' activities
-President's knowledge
-Maurice H. Stans
-Gratitude
-Stans
-29-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Innocence
-John N. Mitchell
-Innocence
-Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
-Involvement
-Guilt
-Low level staff
-Break-in
-White House involvement
-Pappas's support
-Break-in
-Democratic National Committee [DNC]
-Value
Paper for President
-Copy for Shultz
Meeting with Shultz
-Arrival
-Trip to Europe
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:54 am.
Copies of a paper
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.
Dinner for the President's supporters in the business community
-Attendees
-Army Chorus
-“Stout-Hearted Man”
-Tricia Nixon Cox, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. (“Pat”)
Shultz
-Pappas’s greeting
1960 election
-Pappas, Leonard Garment
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
Shultz entered at 11:01 am.
Pappas's memo on international monetary situation
Pappas left at 11:02 am.
Shultz's trip to Europe
-Length of time
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Itinerary
-Paris
-Bonn
-Moscow
-Bonn
-London
-Brussels
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:02 am.
Schedule
-Henry A. Kissinger's attendance at meeting
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:10 am.
Shultz's trip
-Original schedule
-Rome, Moscow
-Paris meeting
-Meeting with Italians
-USSR
-Shultz's talk with Kissinger
-Political considerations
-Aleksei N. Kosygin
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
US-USSR trade
-Agreement [?]
-Guidance [?]
-Gas
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Most Favored Nation [MFN] status
-President’s position
-Support
-Soviet Jewry
-Golda Meir
Kissinger entered at 11:10 am.
US-USSR trade
-MFN status
-President’s commitment
-US position on internal affairs in USSR
-Soviet Jewry
-Kissinger's talk with Dobrynin
-Brezhnev
-Shultz’s talks with USSR
-Avoidance of topic of Soviet Jewry
-Congress
-Jackson Amendment
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:10 am.
Refreshment
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:39 am.
US-USSR trade
-MFN status
-Shultz’s talks with USSR
-Jackson Amendment
-USSR domestic issue
-Avoidance of topic of Soviet Jewry
-Rearrangement of procedure
-President’s commitment
-Brezhnev
-Re-approachment
-Kissinger’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Natural gas
-Shultz's handling
-32-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-Shultz’s analysis
-Price increases in US
-Speculation
-Supplies
-Impact on USSR prices
-Protocol
-Brezhnev’s visit to US
-Concessions
-Gas companies
-John B. Connally
-William E. Simon
-Negotiating protocol
-US subsidies
-Role of President in negotiations
-Brezhnev's relationship with President
-Significance for US-USSR diplomacy
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Space agreements
-Environment
-Middle East
-Europe
-Vietnam
-Mining
-Brezhnev's role
-Visit to US
-Export-Import Bank of the US [Ex-Im bank]
-Credits for USSR
-Kissinger’s talk with [First name unknown] Voroskov [?]
-Shultz’s meeting with [First name unknown] Kemov [?]
-Kemov’s meeting with [First name unknown] St. Rego [?]
-Grain trade
-Shultz's view
-Surpluses
-US farm subsidies
-Problems
-Impact on markets of Soviet purchases
-Sales to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-33-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
PRC
-David Packard
-Meeting with President
-Contract
-Research and development [R & D]
-Delays
-Coordinating Committee on Export Controls [COCOM] [?]
-Value of PRC trade
-Kissinger's telephone call
-COCOM [?] list
-Overrule
International monetary situation
-US leadership
-Germany
-Political problem
-Intervention
-William H. G. Fitzgerald
-Partner of Hornblower and Weeks
-Conversation with Shultz
-Europe
-Need for US leadership
-Flexible response
-Europe’s reaction
-German secretary
-Intervention
-US exchange rate adjustments
-Reluctance
-Political benefits
-Germany and Japan
-Common float
-US support
-Germany’s reaction
-National float
-Domestic political consequences
-Germany
-Shultz’s talk with Helmut H. W. Schmidt
-Moderated common float
-Germany, Benelux, Switzerland, Denmark, Scandinavia
-34-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-France’s absence
-US cooperation
-Managing currency floats
-Flexible guidelines
-Arthur F. Burns’s recommendation
-Japan
-Exchange rate adjustment
-Basket exchange rate adjustment
-Defense of rates
-Floating currency regimes
-Concerns
-Defense of exchange rates
-French elections
-Gaullists compared with Socialist victory
-Coalition with Center Party
-Chile election
-Press coverage
-Electoral margin
-Gerrymander
-Impact on political like
-Giscard d'Estaing
-Monetary preferences
-Intervention
-Shultz's visit
-Georges J. R. Pompidou
-Statements regarding France
-Monetary position
-Gaulist Party
-Pompidou
-Kissinger's talk with French Ambassador [Jacques Kosciusko-
Morizet
-Shultz's statements
-US leadership
-Support for Pompidou
-Germany
-Schmidt
-Call to Kissinger
-Political views
-Successor to Willy Brandt
-35-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Domestic position
-US role
-Floating German Mark
-US role
-Germany’s resolution
-Intervention
-Relationship to US dollar
-Removal of bans
-Stabilization of Mark
-Relationship to Franc
-Floating Franc
-Impact on farm sector
-Political fallout in Germany
-US cooperativeness
-Massive intervention
-Yen, Franc, Mark
-Schmidt
-Diplomatic manner
-Domestic situation
-National float
-Call to Kissinger
-US support
-Flexible system
-Impact on France-Germany relations
President’s schedule
Treasury Department
-Helmut (“Hal”) Sonnenfeldt
-Abilities
-Work at Treasury
-East-West trade, USSR trade
-Kissinger's agreement with Shultz
-June 1973 US-USSR summit
Kissinger left at 11:39 am.
Commission on Industrial Peace
-Organization
-36-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-2010)
Conversation No. 871-5 (cont’d)
-Management Committee
-Subgroups
-Transportation
-Mass production
-David Coe
-Steel strike
-Chairman
-Frank E. Fitzsimmons
-Meeting with John T. Dunlop
-Concerns about James M. Roche
-General Motors [GM], chief executive
George Meany
-Dunlop
5.5 per cent wage settlement
-Meeting with Shultz and Dunlop
-5.5 per cent wage settlement
-President’s support
-Press relations
-President’s statement
-2.5 per cent inflation rate
-Meeting with Dunlop
-Shultz’s return
-Labor-management Advisory Committee
The President and Shultz left at 11:41 am.