103–7

Conversation No. 103-7

Date: June 27, 1972
Time: Unknown after 10:08 am until 11:28 am
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with Wallace F. Bennett, Carl T. Curtis, Jack R. Miller, Leonard B. (“Len”)
Jordan, Paul J. Fannin, Clifford P. Hansen, Robert P. Griffin, George P. Shultz, John D.
Ehrlichman, John F. Evans, Jr., Clark MacGregor, Thomas C. Korologos, Ronald L. Ziegler, and
James H. Falk
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]

Welfare reform
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-Post-convention meeting
-Cost estimates
-Legislative schedule
-Debt ceiling extension
-Social Security
-Revenue sharing
-Legislative maneuvers
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Executive session
-Aid to Families with Dependent Children [AFDC]
-Revenue sharing
-Charles H. Percy
-Proposal
-Chairman Russell B. Long
-Abraham A. Ribicoff
-Long
-Democrat votes
-Bennett
-Long
-Ribicoff
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Long
-Number of votes
-Ribicoff position
-George S. McGovern
-Position on welfare
-Financing
-Administration’s position on HR 1
-Opponents’ views
-Ribicoff’s proposals
-Percy
-Long’s amendments
-Reaction to Ribicoff’s proposals
-Liberals
-Objections to bill
-Ribicoff
-Regional cost of living variations
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-New York City
-Alabama
-Griffin
-Detroit
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-California
-Illinois
-New York
-Alabama
-Miller
-New York City
-Cost of living differential
-New York
-Alabama
-Ribicoff supporters
-Workfare
-Long
-Vote count
-Debate
-Length
-Workfare
-Republican Senators
-Revenue sharing
-Long
-Ribicoff
-Welfare reform
-Popularity
-Social Security
-Debt limit
-Veto possibility
-HR 1
-Difficulties
-Family assistance program
-Welfare Rights Organization
-Ribicoff
-McGovern
-Ribicoff
-Program
-McGovern
-Program
-Costs
-Number on welfare
-Finance Committee
-Program
-Barbara Myers
-Estimate of costs
-Family assistance plan
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-Political popularity
-President’s views on welfare
-New York
-Number on welfare
-HR 1
-Alternatives
-Ribicoff
-Proposals
-Governors’ positions
-Federal programs
-Abuses
-Shultz
-Private pension program
-Social services
-Republicans’ program
-California
-Illinois
-New York
-Costs
-Curtis
-Social workers
-Block grants to states
-Timing for legislation
-Election year
-Social Security
-Problems
-Tax reform
-Welfare reform
-Ribicoff
-Committee recommendations
-HEW
-Ribicoff
-Long
-Administration’s position
-Senate Finance Committee
-Social Security
-Debt ceiling
-Social Security
-Veto power
-Veto of bills
-Social Security
-John W. Byrnes
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-House of Representatives
-Long
-Shultz
-Problem
-Water bill
-Veto
-Costs
-Environmentalists
-Budget concern
-HR 1
-Opposition
-Puerto Rico
-Welfare recipients
-Eligibility
-Governor Luis A. Ferre
-Opposition
-Curtis
-Guaranteed annual income
-John James Williams
-Social Security
-Increases
-Frank F. Church amendment
-HEW Advisory Committee
-Environmentalists
-Peter Gropper [sp?]
-Impact on economy
-Doorman in New York City
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
-William O. Douglas

HR 1
-Popularity
-Veto possibility
-Congressional support
-Social Security
-Political impact
-Ribicoff

Timing for welfare legislation
-Costs
-Filibuster
-Revenue sharing
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-Long
-Mansfield
-Long
-Support for workfare

Minimum wage
-Republican bill
-Numbers of laws

Welfare reform
-Filibuster
-Ribicoff
-Chairman of Finance Committee
-Griffin
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Detroit
-Purchase of buses
-Possibility for pilot projects
-HEW
-HR 1
-Food stamps
-Program


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Uruguay

[To listen to the segment (1m35s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-598.]

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Social Security
-Church
-Long
-Attitude

Revenue sharing
-Action of Finance Committee
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Richard B. Ogilvie
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Debt ceiling
-Wilbur D. Mills
-House rules
-Opposition to increase
-Church
-Byrnes
-Long
-Hearings

Social Security
-Church
-Robert M. Ball
-Long

Jordan
-Work in Senate

Debt ceiling
-Payroll savings
-Bill payments
-Debt ceiling
-Uses
-Extension

Gordon L. Allott

Robert C. Byrd

McGovern
-Welfare program
-President’s counter-proposals
-Number on welfare rolls

Gift presentations
-Cuff links
-Pins
-Finance Committee
-Long

John V. Tunney amendment
-Brazil
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-Vote

Attorney General
-Administration action
-William W. Milligan
-Roth decision

The President, et al. left at 11:28 am