254–4

Conversation No. 254-4

Date: May 28, 1971
Time: 3:00 pm - 5:01 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:00 pm


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[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and
3:10 pm]

[Conversation No. 254-4A]

[See Conversation No. 3-179]

[End of telephone conversation] Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)

Proposed statute on executive pay

[The President talked with Stephen B. Bull between 3:10 pm and 3:11 pm]

[Conversation No. 254-4B]

[See Conversation No. 3-180]

[End of telephone conversation]

Executive pay
-Assistant secretaries
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-John B. Connally
-Staff needs
-Department of Transportation [DOT]
-Position levels
-Arthur [F. Burns?]
-Salaries
-Connally
-Pay increase for government employees
-Public opinion
-Level 1
-Deputies
-Amount
-Timing
-Level 1
-DOT
-Connally
-Press
-Number
-A commission
-Level 4
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-Amount
-New positions
-Considerations
-Department of Treasury, Department of Commerce
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
-Super grades
-Connally
-Level 3, level 2 Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)

Technology
-Studies
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA], saline water, breeder
reactor
-Peter G. Peterson
-Meetings with outside groups
-Technical issues
-Bernard Freer [?]
-Del Shriver [?], Peter M. Flanigan
-Government research and development [R&D]
-Gayford [?] Commission
-Purpose
-Recommendations
-A possible new commission
-Gayford [?] Commission
-Report
-Shriver
-Saline water
-William E. Kreigsman
-Arthur Loeb [?]
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC], Office of Science and Technology
[OST]
-Admiral Lewis L. Strauss
-John A. McCone
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Saline water
-AEC
-Department of the Interior
-NASA
-Funding, bureaucracy
-Peterson
-Assessment of report
-Bell and Howell experience
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-Johnson
-Olsa Island project
-Baja California
-Problems
-Effect
-NASA
-Energy (breeder reactor, desalinization)
-Discontinuation of moon shots Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)
-Staff
-Timing
-Staff
-Announcement
-Department of the Interior
-Breeder reactor
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with McCone
-Shriver
-Staff
-McCone
-Breeder reactor
-Shriver
-Peterson
-Reaction of John O. Pastore
-Antiballistic Missile [ABM]
-Possible meeting with President, Peterson, Shriver, and Shultz
-Time

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Technology
-Breeder reactor
-Shriver, Peterson, Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., Flanigan, McCone meeting
-Scheduling

Peterson dinner meeting, June 2, 1971
-Ben W. Heineman Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)
-Dr. Edwin H. Land
-Polaroid
-Patrick E. Haggerty
-Unknown person

Cancer program
-Political considerations
-Bureaucracy
-James C. Fletcher
-Experience in artificial heart and kidney work
-Roy L. Ash
-[Forename unknown] Norton
-Biological and social sciences
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Dr. Arnold A. Hutschnecker
-Work on violence
-Peterson’s approach

National goals
-Peterson dinner

Proposed group on domestic R&D
-Shriver
-David
-Flanigan
-Purpose

Cancer program
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]

Rogers C. B. Morton

Antitrust
-Peterson
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-An option paper

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:11 pm

Peterson’s schedule

Bull left and Peterson and the White House photographer entered at 3:48 pm
Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)
Photo arrangements
-Bell and Howell camera
-Japan

The photographer left at an unknown time before 4:51 pm

Peterson’s dinner meeting
-Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
-Land
-A Polaroid official
-Dreyfus

Antitrust
-Peterson

Shriver and Flanigan
-R&D for domestic programs
-National Science Foundation
-A list
-McCone
-Shriver

Antitrust
-Ralph McLaren
-Administration policy
-Peterson, Flanigan, Lee Whitten [?] meeting
-Administration policy
-President, Courts
-Domestic
-Foreign
-Peterson or Flanigan
-Justice Department
-Martin C. (“Marty”) Anderson [?]
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David R. Young, Jr.
-President’s signature
-Work for Henry A. Kissinger

Textiles
Shoes

President’s schedule Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)
-Bull
-A 5:30 meeting

Textiles and shoes
-Labor position
-Quotas, investment abroad, jobs

Shoes
-Foreign action
-Common Market
-Legislation on trade
-Flanigan
-Europeans
-Italians
-Spaniards

Oil
-David
-Taiwan

Japanese
-Okinawa

Korea
-A meeting
-Exports
-Industry
-Roger Milliken
-Department of Commerce

Economy
-Steel quotas
-George [P. Shultz?]
-Testimony
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-Investments
-Wages and prices
-Labor
-Protection
-Japan
-Peterson’s conversation with unknown man [George Meany?]
-Quotas
-United Auto Workers, American Federation of Labor-CongressConv.
of Industrial
No. 254-4 (cont.)
Organizations [AFL-CIO]
-Concern for jobs
-Labor’s position
-Trade
-An unknown man
-Goals after Vietnam
-Jobs
-Future
-Republican House leaders
-American position
-Japan
-Future
-Revenue sharing
-Public opinion
-Ehrlichman
-Compared with moon shots
-Public opinion
-David
-Desalinization work with Peterson
-Goals
-Creating new and better jobs
-Markets
-Social aspects
-Desalinization and breeder reactor
-Political and social aspects
-Ehrlichman
-William L. Safire
-John A. Scali
-Richard A. Moore
-New jobs
-Investment capital
-Japan’s percent of Gross National Product [GNP] compared to US
-Industrialized countries
-Labor
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-Plant modernization
-Public opinion
-Congress
-Entrepreneurs
-Public opinion
-Effect on jobs
-Building trades
-Tax break for businesses Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)
-Labor’s position
-George Meany
-Productivity study
-Great Britain
-R&D
-Labor’s position

Antitrust
-Peterson’s meeting with Ehrlichman
-Regulations
-A study on Japan
-R&D
-High technology
-Effect on international competition
-Public opinion

Goals
-Need for planning
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Charles H. Percy
-John F. Kennedy
-Long-range plans
-Business
-Space program
-Japanese, Soviet, and Office of Price Administration [OPA] methods
-Public opinion
-Economists, scientists, businessmen
-US
-Space, defense
-Bernard Shrever [?]
-Bicentennial
-Technology and social plans
-David, Council of Economic Advisers [CEA], Shultz
-Shrever
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-Credibility
-Follow-up
-1972
-Dr. Arthur A. Fletcher of Labor Department
-Pollution program
-Interim goals and monitoring
-Interim goals
-”Soft sciences” Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)
-Environment, health, social programs
-Space programs
-Necessity for bi-partisan group
-President’s role
-Outside groups
-Press
-Youth
-1972
-Democrats
-John W. Gardner
-Position on Vietnam
-President’s role
-Need for publicity
-President’s photos with Congressional leaders
-Business Week
-US News & World Report
-Possibility of speech by President
-President’s concession speech in 1960
-Kennedy
-Television or radio series

[Machine noise - 4 seconds]

-Theme
-Johnson’s “Great Society” speech in Ann Arbor
-Theme
-Proposed personnel
-[Name unintelligible]
-Haggerty
-Heineman
-Ash
-Charles L. Shultze of Brookings Institute

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-Unknown man
-Heineman
-Advice to President
-Kissinger, Shultz

Camp David
-Possible meeting of Peterson’s group Conv. No. 254-4 (cont.)
-Domestic Council staff
Meetings
-Budget
-International events
-Dates
-Budget

Safire

Fiscal Year [FY] 1973 budget
-Policy
-Taxes
-Meetings

Peterson’s group
-Future of US

Arthur B. Laffer

US future
-Liberals
-Possible discussion with press
-Productivity, motivation

Blue-collar wage bill
-Public opinion research
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[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:48 pm and
4:51 pm]

[Conversation No. 254-4C]
[See Conversation No. 3-181]

[End of telephone conversation]

Union positions
-Public opinion

[The President talked with Alexander P. Butterfield between 4:51 pm and 4:52 pm]

[Conversation No. 254-4D]

[See Conversation No. 3-182]

[End of telephone conversation]

Unions
-Public opinion
-Railroads
-Construction industry
-A poll by Opinion Research Corporation in New York
-Legislation
-Situation
-President’s position
-Oil and steel industries
-Germany and Britain [?]
-Administration position
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-Right to work, Davis-Bacon Act
-Davis-Bacon Act
-Construction trades’ position
-Operation
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US position
-Unions

California meeting

Camp David meeting
-Purpose

Peterson’s schedule

Ehrlichman, Shultz, and Peterson left at 5:01 pm