342–12

Conversation No. 342-12
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Date: June 20, 1972
Time: 10:25-11:20 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

Edward L. Morgan
-Performance
-Cabinet officers
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Richard G. Kleindienst

Education bill veto
-Casper W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Funding
-Busing
-President's proposed veto
-Morgan’s view
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Richardson
-Welfare reform
-Higher education
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.

Welfare reform
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting
-Wallace F. Bennett
-Russell B. Long
-Richardson
-Abraham A. Ribicoff bill
-James D. Hodgson
-Democratic convention

Higher education bill veto
-Richardson
-Future appointment
-Supreme Court
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Supreme Court ruling on wiretapping
-Votes of members
-The President’s previous press conference
-Number of taps
-John F. Kennedy
-Robert F. Kennedy
-Public relations
-Possible statement
-Domestic groups
-Administration actions
-Involvement with foreign governments
-National security
-Possible White House statement on wiretapping
-The President’s view
-Number of taps
-Reduction
-John Kennedy Administration
-Robert Kennedy
-Limitations
-Nixon Administration
-National security
-The President’s view
-Public perception
-Ehrlichman
-Possible language
-J. Edgar Hoover
-L. Patrick Gray, III
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Kleindienst
-John Kennedy
-Robert Kennedy
-Number of taps

Higher education veto
-Funding
-Weinberger
-Richardson
-The President’s view
-Daniel P. Moynihan
-Robert H. Finch
-Southern schools
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming briefing
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-The President’s forthcoming briefing
-Busing
-Press conference
-President's concern
-Haldeman
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Edith Efron’s book
-Press
-The President’s view
-Press conferences
-Kennedy
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Congressional leaders
-Press
-Timing of Ehrlichman’s briefing
-Timing of signing
-Congress
-Busing
-Veto
-Higher education
-Detroit
-Court ruling

Swann vs. Charlotte-Mecklenburg County School Board Supreme Court decision
-The President’s view
-Desegregation
-Busing
-Warren E. Burger's opinion
-De facto segregation
-Racial balance requirement
-De jure segregation
-Stephen J. Roth
-Robert R. Merhige
-Richmond, Virginia
-Roth's busing order
-Racial balance
-Detroit
-De jure basis
-Michigan politics
-George S. McGovern

Desegregation study at Harvard University
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-Morgan's analysis
-The President’s view
-Original study's author
-James S. Coleman
-Historical background
-Roy Wilkins
-Meeting with Ehrlichman

Higher education bill
-Veto possibility
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Busing amendments
-Deficiencies
-Timing of decision
-Provisions of bill
-Busing
-Higher education
-The President’s view
-Attorney general's opinion

Detroit desegregation case
-Morgan
-Position
-Nashville case
-Comparison of issues
-James G. O'Hara
-Amendments to bill
-Administration policy
-Roth's response
-Options
-Morgan's position
-Justice Department policy
-Morgan’s health
-The President’s view
-Future work
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

The President talked with White House operator.

[Conversation No. 342-12A]

[See Conversation No. 25-72]
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[End of telephone conversation]

Higher education bill
-Possible veto

The President talked with Morgan.

[Conversation No. 342-12B]

[See Conversation No. 25-73]

[End of telephone conversation]

Morgan
-Health

Higher education bill
-Possibility of signing
-President's response
-Busing
-Kleindienst
-Busing
-Assignment of lawyer

Roth's judicial strategy [Detroit busing case]
-Final order
-Timing
-Administration response
-Moratorium
-Civil rights groups
-Detroit school system
-Roth’s possible actions
-Possible appeals

Higher education bill
-Robert P. Griffin
-Richardson
-Busing
-Tactics
-Weinberger
-The President’s views on busing
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Moratorium on busing
-Roman C. Pucinski
-Charles H. Percy, Jr.
-Equal Opportunities Act
-Committee action


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Higher education bill
-Possible veto statement
-Richardson
-Busing
-Ehrlichman’s view
-The President’s view
-Wording
-Judicial review
-Griffin
-Richardson

Stockholm Environmental conference
-Russell E. Train's report
-White House Statement
-Chinese opinion
-United Nations [UN]

Revenue sharing bill
-Carl B. Albert
-Possible letter from the President
-The President’s view
-Prospects in the House
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-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Long
-Fate of bill
-Funds
-Welfare reform

Welfare reform bill
-Strategy
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-The President’s view
-President's position
-Changes
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Richardson
-Democratic platform
-George S. McGovern's position
-Shortcomings
-Position
-Shortcomings
-Weinberger's view
-Negotiations
-Comparison with international diplomacy
-Soviet Union
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Comparison with labor negotiations
-H.R. 1 as a compromise
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Ribicoff

National security
-Problems
-William P. Rogers
-Melvin R. Laird
-Rogers
-State Department
-Press
-John B. Connally

[Note: The following portion of this conversation was recorded in November 1973 by the White
House and played in open court on November 27, 1973. See Record Group [RG] 21,
Miscellaneous 47-73, Exhibit 63. There is no transcript available]
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Press conferences
-Press
-Cabinet officers
-Higher education
-Ehrlichman
-Questions
-Format
-The President's relations with the press
-Response
-Public’s view
-Press
-Intellectuals
-Interviews
-Formats
-Ehrlichman
-Benefits
-Formats
-Richard A. Moore’s view
-The public
-Location
-Press
-Views of intellectuals
-Richard M. Scammon

1972 campaign
-Speeches
-McGovern
-Staff
-Issues
-Delivery
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Ideas
-Democratic convention
-Delegates
-Media
-White House staff
-1968 campaign
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak
-James Keogh’s view
-Godfrey Sperling, Jr.
-McGovern
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-Humphrey

Press stories
-Newspapers
-Television
-Pentagon Papers

Ehrlichman left at 11:20 am.