384–4

Conversation No. 384-4

Date: December 10, 1972
Time: 10:01 am - 1:12 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

Haldeman’s schedule
-Church

National Presbyterian Church
-[Rev. John A. Huffman, Jr.] of Key Biscayne
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Rev. Edward L. R. Elson
-Age
-Effect on the President

Political philosophy
-The President’s letter
-Distribution
-Reading
-The President’s conversations with John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz
-White House staff
-Views compared to the President’s
-Liberalism
-Sexual orientation
-Homosexuality
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Robert Nisbet article
-Buchanan
-Philosopher in administration
-Cabinet
-White House staff
-Domestic Council
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Academic community
-John F. Kennedy
-Assaults
-Art
-Music
-Education
-“New Left”
-Pot [Marijuana]
-Permissiveness
-Cabinet
-Claude S. Brinegar
-Robert H. Bork
-Philosopher in administration
-Price’s view
-The President’s views
-The nation’s need
-Articulation
-Tactics
-Cabinet
-Bork
-Possible conversation with the President
-Compared to Joseph T. Sneed
-Supreme Court
-William H. Rehnquist
-Warren E. Burger
-Tactics
-Social scientists
-Buchanan
-Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan


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Robert S. Strauss
-Charles W. Colson
-Democratic National Committee [DNC]
-Senate
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Judaism

John B. Connally, Jr.
-Indecision
-Switching political parties
-Democratic nomination
-Chances
-Conversation with Haldeman
-DNC
-Resignation of Jean Westwood
-The President’s strategy

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Second term reorganization
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-White House job
-Ronald L. Ziegler’s view
-Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart
-Ziegler’s conversation with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Stuart
-Replacement
-Ziegler’s conversation with the President
-“Supernumerary” role
-Richard M. Helms
-The President’s conversation with Mrs. Nixon
-West Wing
-Lucy A. Winchester’s tenure
-Michael J. Farrell’s tenure
-John E. Nidecker
-Winchester
-Mrs. Nixon
-Farrell
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Nidecker
-Retention
-Relationship with Mrs. Nixon, Julie Nixon Eisenhower
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Winchester
-Departure
-Winchester’s conversations with Jo Anne (Horton) Haldeman and
other administration wives
-Daughter
-East Wing’s relationship with West Wing
-Winchester
-Job performance
-Social relations
-Stephen B. Bull
-Christmas events
-Mrs. Nixon
-Rex W. Scouten
-Farrell
-Retention
-Nidecker
-Agency job
-White House taff cuts
-Retention
-Farrell
-Compared to John S. Davies
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-White House job
-Ziegler’s assignment
-Job title
-Chief of Mrs. Nixon’s staff
-Ziegler’s view
-Assistant to the First Lady
-Press Secretary
-Social Secretary
-Press relations
-Ziegler’s view
-East Wing’s relationship with the West Wing
-Conflict
-Rose Mary Woods
-Relationship with the staff
-Bull
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Dwight H. Chapin
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Haldeman
-Chapin
-Butterfield
-Invitations
-Bull
-Job performance
-Personal life


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-Bull
-The President’s schedule
-Chief of Protocol
-Marion H. Smoak
-Departure
-[Reynolds] [first name unknown] of California
-Ambassadorship [to Mexico]
-Smoak
-William R. Codus
-Social affairs
-Hosts
-Cabinet officers
-Dinners
-Camp David
-Codus
-Reynolds
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Codus
-Tobin Armstrong
-Women’s jobs
-[Shah of Iran] Mohammed Reza Pahhvi
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Indira Gandhi
-Golda Meir
-Texas
-Press relations
-Finances
-Residence

Press relations
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s view
-Life
-Hugh S. Sidey
-Price’s conversation with Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Washington, DC
-Price’s view


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1974 Congressional elections
-Harry S. Dent
-Edward C. Nixon
-Washington state
-Traits
-Political acumen
-Youth
-Edward R. F. Cox
-New York
-Otis G. Pike
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Traits
-George A. Goodling
-Departure
-Hugh Scott
-Mark Hamburger
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Pennsylvania
-Public support
-William W. Scranton
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Frank L. Rizzo
-Colson
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. [?]
-Hamburger
-Possible job
-Nixon Foundation
-Federal job
-Bicentennial
-American Enterprise Institute [AEI]
-Future
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Senate seat
-Scott

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The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Chapin
-Timing
-Purpose
-1972 campaign
-Meeting with Gordon C. Strachan
-US Information Agency [USIA] job
-Purpose
-1972 campaign
-Chapin
-Work habits

Chapin
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Family
-Donald H. Segretti
-The President’s conversation with Julie Nixon Eisenhower

Second term reorganization
-Strachan
-Chapin
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Departure
-Return
-Meeting with the President
-Possible dinner

E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Loss of wife [Dorothy Hunt]
-Letter from the President
-Money
-Tracing
-Serial numbers
-Origin

Watergate
-Dorothy Hunt money
-Origin
-Payoff money
-Purse
-Identification
-Amount
-Tracing
-Howard Hunt
-Laundering

The President’s schedule
-Cabinet dinner
-Cabinet children
-Church services
-Christmas

Watergate
-Dorothy Hunt money
-Tracing
-Origin
-Press relations
-Washington Post
-Wire story

Second term reorganization
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Sallyanne Payton
-Ehrlichman
-Sneed
-Justice Department
-Wallace H. Johnson
-Ehrlichman
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]

White House gifts
-White House staff
-Scouten
-The President’s conversation with Mrs. Nixon
-Presidential portrait

The President’s schedule
-Florida
-California
-Florida
-Return to Washington, DC
-Mrs. Nixon
-Rose Parade
-The President’s television [TV] viewing
-Football games
-The President’s role
-Church
-Mrs. Nixon
-Press relations
-New Year’s Day
-Vietnam negotiations
-Kissinger

The President’s schedule
-1973 Inauguration
-Greek Orthodox priest
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Oath reading
-Burger
-Agnew
-The President as Vice President
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-William F. Knowland
-1956
-Earl Warren

Second term reorganization
-Need for youth
-Ehrlichman
-Age ranges
-Legacy
-Supreme Court

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:01 am.

Pen or pencil

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:50 am.

Second term reorganization
-Youth
-Term appointments
-Ehrlichman
-Supreme Court
-Burger
-Lewis F. Powell
-Harry A. Blackmun
-Burger
-Conversations with the President
-Politics
-Under Secretaries
-Ehrlichman
-Assistant Secretaries
-Ethnic groups
-Religious orientation
-Transportation Department
-Frederic V. Malek
-Claude S. Brinegar
-Presumed Catholicism
-Staff work
-Under Secretaries
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Transportation Department
-Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-Ehrlichman
-Interior Department
-John C. Whitaker
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Agriculture Department
-Clayton K. Yeutter
-J. Philip Campbell
-Departure
-Leaks


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1974 Congressional elections
-Edward C. Nixon
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II

Second term reorganization
-White House job
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Effect on the President

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Second term reorganization
-Woods
-Job performance
-Personal relations
-Confidential memoranda
-Beverly J. Kaye
-Compared to Patricia B. McKee
-Haldeman’s office
-1972 election
-Leaks
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Women
-McKee
-Relationship with Haldeman
-San Clemente
-Kaye
-Access
-Bicentennial Commission
-Francis J. (“Frank”) Sinatra
-James Roosevelt
-Chairmanship
-Effect
-Roosevelt
-Sinatra
-Role
-Compared to Roosevelt
-Ethnic groups


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New political party
-Name
-Independents
-Republicans
-Federalists
-George Washington
-John Adams
-Independent Republican Party
-Connally

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Administration goals
-Second term
-Substance
-Peace
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Economy
-Unemployment
-Rebuilding cities
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Politics
-Destruction of liberal establishment
-Buchanan [Nisbet’s article]
-Compared to Richard (“Dick”) Wilson’s article
-Distribution
-Charles W. Colson
-Charles Michelson
-New Majority
-The President’s identity
-Compassion
-New Majority
-Republican Party
-Rewriting history
-New Establishment, New Majority
-Legacy
-Philosophy
-List of names
-Bork
-Buchanan
-Price

The President’s schedule
-Instructions for Ehrlichman
-Shultz

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Home in Washington, DC
-Return
-March 1973
-David Eisenhower
-Navy discharge
-[Cmdr. Craig S. Campbell]
-John S. D. Eisenhower
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

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-Future in politics

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David Eisenhower
-Navy discharge
-Circumstances
-Group


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-House location
-Foxhall Road
-Available homes
-Pool
-Haldeman’s home
-Georgetown
-Neighborhood
-Yards
-Foxhall Road
-Distance from White House
-Rock Creek Parkway
-Cost
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

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The President’s schedule
-Christmas party
-Assistant Secretaries
-Under Secretaries
-Charles E. Walker
-Cabinet party
-Round tables
-Black tie
-Fred Waring
-Youth
-Waring
-Music
-Tone

Second term reorganization
-Philosophy
-Nisbet article
-Distribution
-Haldeman’s role
-White House staff views
-Value
-Memoranda
-1972 campaign
-Goals
-Significance
-White House staff
-Loyalty
-Public relations [PR]
-White House staff
-Watergate
-Donald H. Segretti
-Ehrlichman, Haldeman
-The President’s instructions
-Robert J. Dole
-Sherman Adams comparison
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Dole
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Chairmanship of Republican National Committee [RNC]
-Bryce N. Harlow
-John W. Dean, III
-John N. Mitchell

William L. Safire’s book about administration
-Information
-Vietnam negotiations
-The President’s memoir
-Significance of Safire’s book
-Psychoanalysis
-Compared to observation
-Woods’s cooperation
-Publisher
-Doubleday

Watergate
-Dorothy Hunt
-Money
-Press relations
-Flight to Chicago
-Purpose
-Visit to sister
-Money
-Howard Hunt
-Finances
-Residence
-The President’s possible meeting with an unknown person
-Mitchell
-Chapin’s knowledge
-Segretti
-Information gathering
-Bugging
-Haldeman’s knowledge
-Mitchell’s involvement
-New York
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-[John J. (“Jack”) Caulfield]
-1972 campaign
-Lack of information
-Tape recordings
-Primaries
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-George S. McGovern
-Haldeman’s role
-Jeb Stuart Magruder’s involvement
-G[eorge] Gordon Liddy’s version
-Financial information
-Mitchell
-Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr.
-Desire for information
-The President’s role
-Bugging targets
-McGovern, Max M. Kampelman
-Compared to O’Brien
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Edmund G. Muskie
-Ehrlichman
-Dean’s report
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] knowledge

Second term reorganization
-FBI
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray
-Replacement


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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

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Watergate
-FBI
-Gray
-Henry E. Petersen
-Gray
-Suitability for the job
-Confirmation
-Bugging
-Colson’s knowledge
-Howard Hunt
-Possible problems
-Bernard L. Barker
-Howard Hunt
-Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
-Segretti affair
-Testimony
-Chapin
-Strachan
-Dean’s view
-Chapin
-Knowledge
-Compared to Strachan
-Strachan’s knowledge
-Mitchell’s knowledge
-Liddy


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Democratic Party
-Strauss
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Connally
-Humphrey
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Jackson

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Second term reorganization
-Defense Department
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Symbolism
-Conservatives
-Confirmation
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Richardson’s meeting with the President
-Kissinger
-Jonathan Moore, Laurence E. (“Larry”) Lynn, Jr.
-Lynn
-Systems analysis
-Moore
-Conservatives
-Richardson
-Lynn’s resignation
-Cambodia invasion
-Moore
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Gen. Robert E. Pursely
-Richardson
-Possible meeting with the President, Kissinger, William P. Clements,
Jr.
-TACAIR
-Systems analysis
-Melvin R. Laird
-The President’s possible meeting with Richardson, Clements
-Research and development [R & D]
-Frederick B. Irving [?]
-European Economic Community [EEC]
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-James D. Hodgson
-Geneva
-Peter G. Peterson
-Staff
-William D. Eberle
-EEC
-Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development [OECD]

The President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. at an unknown time between 10:01 am and
11:50 am.

[Conversation No. 384-4A]

Request for a meeting with Haig

[End of telephone conversation]

Second term reorganization
-Joseph A. Greenwald
-EEC
-Peter M. Flanigan recommendation
-State Department
-Acting Assistant Secretary for Economic Affairs
-Background
-OECD
-Paris
-Age
-Education
-University of Chicago
-Georgetown University
-Religion
-Jewish
-Mary Virginia (Doyle) Greenwald
-Catholicism
-Foreign Service
-1941
-Economic affairs
-Dwight Eisenhower
-John F. Kennedy
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Lyndon B. Johnson
-State Department
-Office of International Trade
-Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Trade
-Loyalty, competence
-OECD
-EEC
-Hodgson
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Flanigan
-Treasury Department
-Donald H. Rumsfeld

Haig entered at 11:50 am.

Greetings
-Haig’s rank

Vietnam negotiations
-Haig’s meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Meetings with North Vietnamese
-Details
-Delays
-Kissinger’s messages
-US bombing
-The President’s conversations with Kissinger
-Possible breakdown of talks
-North Vietnamese positions
-Issues
-Demands
-December 9, 1972
-Article I
-US civilian technicians
-Demilitarized Zone [DMZ]
-DMZ
-Second Paris Round
-Existence
-Honor
-Movement of personnel
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Effect
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Meeting
-Duration
-Thieu
-Settlement agreement
-Signing
-DMZ
-Importance of issue
-Compromise
-North Vietnam
-Thieu
-Haig’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Compromise
-North Vietnam
-Thieu
-Dobrynin’s messages
-North Vietnam’s positions
-Settlement agreement
-Soviet Union
-Settlement agreement
-Settlement agreement
-Compromise
-Normalization of North Vietnam-South Vietnam relations
-DMZ
-Personnel movement
-Civilians
-Authorization
-Thieu
-Kissinger
-Thieu
-Le Duc Tho
-Delays
-Experts
-Health
-Kissinger
-Dobrynin
-Settlement agreement
-North Vietnamese language
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-DMZ
-Compromise
-The President’s view
-Haig’s view
-Compromise
-US options
-Breakdown in talks
-The President’s possible television [TV] appearance
-US bombing
-Haig’s possible call to Dobrynin

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 11:50 am and
12:04 pm.

[See Conversation No. 34-29]

[Conversation No. 384-4B]

[End of telephone conversation]

Vietnam negotiations
-Settlement agreement
-Thieu
-Possible meeting with Agnew
-Agnew’s schedule
-Dallas
-North Vietnam
-Changes

The President talked with Dobrynin between 12:04 pm and an unknown time before 12:55 pm.

[See Conversation No. 34-30]

[Conversation No. 384-4C]

[End of telephone conversation]

Vietnam negotiations
-Meeting
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Postponement
-Instructions to Kissinger
-Message from the President
-Breakdown in talks
-US options
-US bombing
-“Hawks”
-Kissinger’s meetings
-[David] Kenneth Rush
-Laird
-1972 election
-Pre-election efforts
-Compared to post-election efforts
-US bombing
-Settlement agreement
-Effect
-Expectations
-Haig’s and Kissinger’s efforts
-Progress
-October 8, 1972 agreement
-Thieu
-Kissinger’s cable
-North Vietnam
-South Vietnam
-Army
-Problems
-Kissinger
-North Vietnam
-Settlement agreement
-Cease-fire
-Maintenance
-Violations
-US response
-Bombing
-Message to Kissinger
-Adm. Thomas E. Moorer
-B-52s
-Civilian casualties
-US public opinion
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-US bombing
-South Vietnam
-Kissinger
-Settlement agreement
-Provocation
-Cambodia
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
-Congressional relations
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Thieu
-Settlement agreement
-Provocation
-October 8, 1972 agreement
-“Trip wires”
-Congressional relations
-DMZ
-North Vietnam
-Civilian movement
-Korea

Second term reorganization
-Edgar A. Buttari
-Kissinger
-Background
-Cuban ambassador
-Cubans for Nixon
-Ambassadorship to Latin America
-Fidel Castro

US-Cuba relations
-Castro
-Hijacking agreement
-Negotiations
-Shultz [?]
-Ziegler’s statement
-Ziegler’s statement
-Castro

US-Chile relations
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Salvador Allende Gossens
-United Nations [UN] statement
-Planned dinner
-Cancellation
-U. Alexis Johnson
-New York
-State Department
-Johnson

Second term reorganization
-Ambassador to South Vietnam
-Graham A. Martin
-Johnson
-Martin
-Kissinger
-Wall Street Journal
-Johnson
-Upper Chad
-Johnson
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] delegation
-Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA]
-Budget cuts
-Secor D. Browne
-SALT delegation
-Johnson
-ACDA
-Staff cuts
-Appropriation cut
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-State Department
-Defense Department
-White House
-Domestic Council
-White House
-Staff cuts
-NSC
-Kissinger
-Domestic Council
-Kissinger
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)


Agnew’s and Haig’s possible trip to Saigon
-Paris
-Settlement agreement
-Timing
-Ehrlichman’s view
-The President’s possible role
-[Thieu]
-Purpose
-Thieu
-Negotiations
-“Hawks”
-Congressional relations
-Economic and military aid
-Kissinger
-Haig’s possible conversation with Agnew
-Haig’s conversation with Agnew
-Liberals
-“Hawks”
-Negotiations
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Compared to the President’s 1953 trip to South Korea
-Dwight Eisenhower
-Syngman Rhee
-The President’s conversation with Rhee
-US aid
-Settlement agreement
-Enforcement
-US intervention
-The President’s commitment
-1972 election
-Schedule
-Thieu
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Paris
-Settlement agreement
-Seoul, Bangkok, Vientiane, Hanoi
-Saigon
-Thieu
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Conversation No. 384-4 (cont’d)

-Washington, DC
-Announcement
-The President’s schedule
-California
-Florida
-Kissinger’s press relations
-Vacation
-Football game
-California
-Christmas
-Florida
-Mrs. Nixon
-Possible meeting with Thieu at Midway
-Timing
-Congressional reconvention
-Florida

Vietnam negotiations
-The President’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Kissinger
-Breakdown in talks
-DMZ
-Compromise
-Civilian movement
-Agnew
-Possible meeting with the President
-Timing
-Settlement agreement
-Kissinger
-Possible trip to Saigon
-Kissinger’s concern
-Secretary of State
-Opinions
-Status and instructions for Kissinger
-Ziegler’s statement
-The President’s meetings with Haig
-The President’s schedule
-The President’s schedule
-California
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-Florida
-The President’s family
-Football game
-Hawaii
-Thieu
-Breakdown
-The President’s possible TV statement
-Kissinger
-Advisability
-Cambodia
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
-Provocation
-Thieu
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Cessation of US bombing, mining and withdrawal of US forces
-Return of POWs
-US economic and military aid to South Vietnam
-Reparations
-US-North Vietnam bilateral deal
-Thieu
-US aid
-Tenure
-Agnew’s view
-South Vietnam’s survival
-Communism
-Prospects
-Greece
-East Germany
-West Germany
-Settlement agreement
-Kissinger
-DMZ
-Compromise
-Thieu’s acceptance
-Chances

Haig left at 12:55 pm.

Congressional relations
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-Gerald R. Ford, Hugh Scott
-State of the Union message
-Ehrlichman
-Kissinger
-The President’s schedule
-Informal welcome
-Timing
-Announcement
-Written message
-1973 Inauguration
-Separate houses
-House of Representatives, Senate
-Informal joint session
-1973 Inauguration
-TV
-Press relations
-The President’s remarks
-Kissinger

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:55 pm.

Delivery

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:12 pm.

Helene (Colesie) Drown
-The President’s schedule
-1972 election
-White House staff
-Watergate
-Administration decisions
-The President’s conversation with Mrs. Nixon

1972 election
-News summary
-Analysis
-Staff meeting

Press relations
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-The President’s conversation with Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Robert D. Novak
-Associated Press [AP] article
-Colson’s office

Raymond K. Price, Jr.

Second term reorganization
-John A. Scali
-Rogers
-Peter J. Brennan
-Relationship
-Ziegler
-Ehrlichman
-Moynihan
-Mitchell
-Attorney General
-Gray
-Confirmation
-Mitchell’s view
-Relationship with the President
-Robert H. Bork
-Compared to Joseph T. Sneed
-Busing

[Pause]

Kissinger’s press relations
-[Oriana Fallaci] interview
-Possible suit
-Haig’s report
-Justifications
-Fallaci’s importance
-Request of Italian ambassador
-Fallaci’s attractiveness

Vietnam negotiations
-Kissinger
-Judgement
-Plan
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-The President’s conversation with Haig
-The President’s second term
-Laird
-Conversation with the President
-US bombing
-Reaction
-Press relations
-Students
-Congressional relations
-Press relations

Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 12:55 pm.

The President’s physical examination

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 1:12 pm.

The President’s physical examination
-Gen. Walter R. Tkach
-Vital signs
-Heart, blood pressure
-Duration

Personnel
-Kissinger
-Need for support
-Mood
-Clark MacGregor
-PR
-Ehrlichman
-Dent
-Compared to Peterson
-Peterson
-Brennan
-Shultz
-Substance
-Foreign policy
-Richard A. Moore
-George H. W. Bush
-Moore
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-Public Information Officers [PIOs]
-Ehrlichman
-Haldeman’s role


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Republican Part
-Brock
-Bush
-Republican National Committee [RNC] Chairman
-Office location
-Agnew

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Second term reorganization
-Effect
-Government responsiveness to the President
-Politics
-PR
-Substance
-First term

US defense strategy
-Richardson’s recent meeting with Haldeman
-Kissinger
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson’s recommendation
-Congress
-Enemies, allies
-Administration knowledge
-Cutbacks
-Buildups

US domestic strategy
-Philosopher in administration
-Price’s view
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-Irving Kristol
-Nisbet
-Philosophy, compared to strategy
-Russell A. Kirk
-Effect of 1972 election
-Scott
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Carl B. Albert
-Change
-Majority

Second term reorganization
-Herbert G. Klein
-Telephone calls
-State Department
-Kissinger
-Richardson
-Meeting with Haldeman
-Kissinger
-Haig

Speechwriters
-Instructions
-Ehrlichman
-1973 Inaugural message
-W. Bruce Herschensohn
-Price
-Herschensohn
-The President’s schedule
-Price
-Buchanan
-Safire
-Adam Bakshian
-John K. Andrews, Jr.
-Lee W. Huebner
-The President’s view
-Price
-Andrews
-Bakshian
-1973 Inaugural address
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-Safire
-Vermont Royster
-Letter

Second term reorganization
-White House staff
-Attitude
-Cuts
-1972 election
-Congress
-John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
-John E. Nidecker
-The President’s family
-Role
-Greetings
-The President’s box
-National Park Service [NPS]
-NPS
-Ronald H. Walker
-Department of Agriculture
-George B. Hartzog, Jr.

Haldeman left at 1:12 pm.