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404–11
- President Richard M. Nixon
- Alexander M. Haig
- Raymond K. Price
- H. R. Haldeman
- Ronald L. Ziegler
- UNKNOWN
- White House operator
- William E. Timmons
January 23, 1973
Conversation No. 404-11
Date: January 23, 1973
Time: Between 12:15 pm and 1:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Raymond K. Price, Jr.
Vietnam settlement
-The President's speech
-Congress
-Location
-Carl B. Albert, Gerald R. Ford
-Wording
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Location
-Oval Office
-Briefing for bipartisan Congressional leaders and other members
-Revisions
-Agreement
-Kissinger, Tran Van Huong
-Nguyen Van Thieu and other allies
-Huong
-Kissinger
-Consultation with Thieu
-Official names for South Vietnam and North Vietnam
-Aid to South Vietnam
-Cease-fire violations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Wording
-Peace
-The President's public statements during negotiations
-Wording
-George S. McGovern
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Congress
-Indochina, US
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
-Resolution
-John Kenneth Galbraith
-Neville Chamberlain
-Congress
-POWs for US withdrawal
-North Vietnamese
-Laos and Cambodia
-Agreement
-People of North Vietnam, South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia
-Reference to POW and Missing in Action [MIA] families
-Reference to Lyndon B. Johnson
-Wording
-Economic aid
-Wording
The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and
12:40 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11A]
-Meeting with Haldeman and Ronald L. Ziegler
[End of telephone conversation]
-Expected response
-References to Congress
-Briefing for bipartisan Congressional leaders
-Economic aid
-Bipartisan support for the President's policies
Haldeman entered at 12:40 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Congress
-Location
-Mansfield
-J. William Fulbright
-John B. Connally
-Johnson
-Possible benefits
-Hugh Scott
-Kissinger
-Possible call
-Brent G. Scowcroft
Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and
12:43 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11B]
[See Conversation No. 36-72]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Carl B. Albert, Mansfield
-William C. Timmons
-Mansfield
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:43 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11C]
[See Conversation No. 36-140]
[End of telephone conversation]
-John Stennis
-Haldeman's call to Timmons
Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and
12:43 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
[Conversation No. 404-11D]
[See Conversation No. 36-73]
[End of telephone conversation]
Stennis
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:43 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11E]
[See Conversation No. 36-74]
[End of telephone conversation]
Vietnam settlement
-The President's speech
-Location
-Albert's and Mansfield's views
-Timing
-Location
-Connally's and Albert's views
-Bryce N. Harlow's view
Ziegler entered at 12:43 pm.
-Bella Abzug
-Connally
-Johnson
-Harlow
-Mansfield
-Scott
-Importance
-Announcement
-The President's speech
-Location
-Significance of Oval Office
-Cabinet
-Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Congress
-Television [TV] coverage
-McGovern, Abzug, Stennis
-Grandstanding
-Support for peace
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 401-11F]
[See Conversation No. 36-75]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Oval Office
-Kissinger's view
-Ziegler's announcement
-Cabinet meeting
-Bipartisan Congressional leaders briefing
-White House staff briefing
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11G]
[See Conversation No. 36-76]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Bipartisan Congressional leaders meetings
-Time and place
-Attendees
-Jack F. Kemp
-Richard S. Schweiker
[The above part of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No. 404-
11G]
-Senate and House Finance Committees
-Wilbur D. Mills, Russell B. Long, Wallace F. Bennett
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
Possible call from Kissinger
The White House operator talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and
1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11H]
[See Conversation No. 36-77]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's schedule
-Ziegler's announcement
-Cabinet meeting
-Senate Finance Committee
-Budget meeting
-Bipartisan Congressional leaders meeting
-Timing
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11I]
[See Conversation No. 36-78]
[End of telephone conversation]
-William P. Rogers, Melvin R. Laird
-Rogers
-Ziegler's announcement
-Congressional leaders meetings, Cabinet meeting
[The above part of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No. 404-
11I].
-Meeting with Kissinger
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 and 1:01 pm.
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
[Conversation No. 404-11J]
[See Conversation No. 36-79]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Republican Congressional leaders meeting
-Samuel L. Devine, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Kemp
-Purpose
[The above part of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No. 404-
11J]
-The President's speech
-Makeup
-Possible advance copies
-Possible press conference
-Distribution of text
-Agreement with North Vietnam
-Explanation to Congressional leaders
Kissinger
-Cook, maid
Ziegler left at 1:01 pm.
Soviet Union
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 1:01 pm.
The President's schedule
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:12 pm.
Vietnam settlement
-Possible response
-Congressional relations
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Timmons
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Gerald R. Ford
-Mansfield
-Stennis
-Johnson
-Timmons
-Congressional leaders
The President's schedule
-Vietnam settlement
-Speech draft
-Time of delivery
-Revisions
-Release of settlement
Haig left at an unknown time before 1:12 pm.
Price left at 1:12 pm
-Request
-Meetings
-Statement
Johnson’s funeral ceremonies
-Period of mourning
-Entertainment
-Dinner
-State visit
-The President's role
-Protocol
-Dwight D. Eisenhower's funeral
-Schedule
-Church service
-Motorcade
-Ceremony at Capitol
-Harry S. Truman's funeral
-Protocol for state funeral
-Possible meetings with heads of state
The President's schedule
-The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Cabinet meeting
-Meeting with George H. W. Bush
-TV technique
-William Carruthers
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Meeting with Irving Kristol
-Sociologists
-Vietnam War
The President's role in history
-Charles W. Colson
-Understanding
-1973 Inauguration
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-Unknown man
-White House staff understanding
-Kristol's comments
The President's schedule
-Cabinet meeting
-The President's appearance
-Ehrlichman
-The President's age
-Compared to Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Ehrlichman
-Scheduling technique
-Haldeman's role
-Inaugural receptions
-Meeting with Congressional leaders
-The President's appearance
-Next week's press conference
-Ehrlichman
-Scheduling technique
-Compared to the President as Vice President
-Effect
-Ehrlichman, Timmons
-Meetings with state Republican chairmen
-Bush
-Effect
-The President's trips to Florida or California
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Compared to studying for exams
-Recovery
-Ehrlichman
-Press conferences, Domestic Council
-Ehrlichman
-Meeting with Haldeman and Kenneth W. Clawson [?]
-Choices
-The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
-Haig's trip [?]
-White House staff's view
-Press conference
-Effect
-Oval Office
Buchanan
-Book project
-Review by the President
Press relations
-Coverage of Nixon family
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-White House News Summary
-Tone
-1973 Inauguration
-The President's concerns
-Haldeman's conversation with Mrs. Nixon
-Special reports
-TV
-Written coverage
-Tone
-Washington Post, New York Times, Washington Star
-White House News Summary articles from Phoenix
-Fargo, North Dakota, Lewiston, Maine
-Human events
-Ehrlichman
The President's schedule
-Ehrlichman
-Confirmation strategy
-Fulbright
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Peter M. Flanigan, Virginia H. Knauer, Kissinger, Roy L. Ash
-Domestic Council
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Charles H. Percy
-Ash, Knauer
-Ash, Kissinger, Flanigan
-Johnson services at Lyndon B. Johnson Ranch
-The President's representative, Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo
-Letter from Johnson
-The President's conversation with Johnson
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Connally
-Agnew
-Cabinet meeting
-Agnew's attendance
-Congressional leaders meetings
-Agnew
-Agnew's schedule
-Budget process
-Possible trip to Camp David with Connally
-Press conference
-Eisaku Sato's visit
-Prayer breakfast
-Vacation in California
-Timing
-Counsellors' meeting
-Press conference
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift.]
-Possible vacation
-Florida, California
-Announcement
-1972 election
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift.]
*****************************************************************
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
White House staff
-Price
-Work
Haldeman left at 1:35 pm.
Date: January 23, 1973
Time: Between 12:15 pm and 1:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Raymond K. Price, Jr.
Vietnam settlement
-The President's speech
-Congress
-Location
-Carl B. Albert, Gerald R. Ford
-Wording
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Location
-Oval Office
-Briefing for bipartisan Congressional leaders and other members
-Revisions
-Agreement
-Kissinger, Tran Van Huong
-Nguyen Van Thieu and other allies
-Huong
-Kissinger
-Consultation with Thieu
-Official names for South Vietnam and North Vietnam
-Aid to South Vietnam
-Cease-fire violations
-22-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Wording
-Peace
-The President's public statements during negotiations
-Wording
-George S. McGovern
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Congress
-Indochina, US
-Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
-Resolution
-John Kenneth Galbraith
-Neville Chamberlain
-Congress
-POWs for US withdrawal
-North Vietnamese
-Laos and Cambodia
-Agreement
-People of North Vietnam, South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia
-Reference to POW and Missing in Action [MIA] families
-Reference to Lyndon B. Johnson
-Wording
-Economic aid
-Wording
The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and
12:40 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11A]
-Meeting with Haldeman and Ronald L. Ziegler
[End of telephone conversation]
-Expected response
-References to Congress
-Briefing for bipartisan Congressional leaders
-Economic aid
-Bipartisan support for the President's policies
Haldeman entered at 12:40 pm.
-23-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Congress
-Location
-Mansfield
-J. William Fulbright
-John B. Connally
-Johnson
-Possible benefits
-Hugh Scott
-Kissinger
-Possible call
-Brent G. Scowcroft
Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and
12:43 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11B]
[See Conversation No. 36-72]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Carl B. Albert, Mansfield
-William C. Timmons
-Mansfield
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:43 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11C]
[See Conversation No. 36-140]
[End of telephone conversation]
-John Stennis
-Haldeman's call to Timmons
Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and
12:43 pm.
-24-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
[Conversation No. 404-11D]
[See Conversation No. 36-73]
[End of telephone conversation]
Stennis
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:43 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11E]
[See Conversation No. 36-74]
[End of telephone conversation]
Vietnam settlement
-The President's speech
-Location
-Albert's and Mansfield's views
-Timing
-Location
-Connally's and Albert's views
-Bryce N. Harlow's view
Ziegler entered at 12:43 pm.
-Bella Abzug
-Connally
-Johnson
-Harlow
-Mansfield
-Scott
-Importance
-Announcement
-The President's speech
-Location
-Significance of Oval Office
-Cabinet
-Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense
-25-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Congress
-Television [TV] coverage
-McGovern, Abzug, Stennis
-Grandstanding
-Support for peace
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 401-11F]
[See Conversation No. 36-75]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Oval Office
-Kissinger's view
-Ziegler's announcement
-Cabinet meeting
-Bipartisan Congressional leaders briefing
-White House staff briefing
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11G]
[See Conversation No. 36-76]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Bipartisan Congressional leaders meetings
-Time and place
-Attendees
-Jack F. Kemp
-Richard S. Schweiker
[The above part of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No. 404-
11G]
-Senate and House Finance Committees
-Wilbur D. Mills, Russell B. Long, Wallace F. Bennett
-26-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
Possible call from Kissinger
The White House operator talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and
1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11H]
[See Conversation No. 36-77]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's schedule
-Ziegler's announcement
-Cabinet meeting
-Senate Finance Committee
-Budget meeting
-Bipartisan Congressional leaders meeting
-Timing
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 1:01 pm.
[Conversation No. 404-11I]
[See Conversation No. 36-78]
[End of telephone conversation]
-William P. Rogers, Melvin R. Laird
-Rogers
-Ziegler's announcement
-Congressional leaders meetings, Cabinet meeting
[The above part of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No. 404-
11I].
-Meeting with Kissinger
Haldeman talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:43 and 1:01 pm.
-27-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
[Conversation No. 404-11J]
[See Conversation No. 36-79]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Republican Congressional leaders meeting
-Samuel L. Devine, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Kemp
-Purpose
[The above part of the office conversation took place simultaneously with Conversation No. 404-
11J]
-The President's speech
-Makeup
-Possible advance copies
-Possible press conference
-Distribution of text
-Agreement with North Vietnam
-Explanation to Congressional leaders
Kissinger
-Cook, maid
Ziegler left at 1:01 pm.
Soviet Union
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 1:01 pm.
The President's schedule
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:12 pm.
Vietnam settlement
-Possible response
-Congressional relations
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Timmons
-28-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Gerald R. Ford
-Mansfield
-Stennis
-Johnson
-Timmons
-Congressional leaders
The President's schedule
-Vietnam settlement
-Speech draft
-Time of delivery
-Revisions
-Release of settlement
Haig left at an unknown time before 1:12 pm.
Price left at 1:12 pm
-Request
-Meetings
-Statement
Johnson’s funeral ceremonies
-Period of mourning
-Entertainment
-Dinner
-State visit
-The President's role
-Protocol
-Dwight D. Eisenhower's funeral
-Schedule
-Church service
-Motorcade
-Ceremony at Capitol
-Harry S. Truman's funeral
-Protocol for state funeral
-Possible meetings with heads of state
The President's schedule
-The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
-29-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Cabinet meeting
-Meeting with George H. W. Bush
-TV technique
-William Carruthers
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Meeting with Irving Kristol
-Sociologists
-Vietnam War
The President's role in history
-Charles W. Colson
-Understanding
-1973 Inauguration
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-Unknown man
-White House staff understanding
-Kristol's comments
The President's schedule
-Cabinet meeting
-The President's appearance
-Ehrlichman
-The President's age
-Compared to Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Ehrlichman
-Scheduling technique
-Haldeman's role
-Inaugural receptions
-Meeting with Congressional leaders
-The President's appearance
-Next week's press conference
-Ehrlichman
-Scheduling technique
-Compared to the President as Vice President
-Effect
-Ehrlichman, Timmons
-Meetings with state Republican chairmen
-Bush
-Effect
-The President's trips to Florida or California
-30-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Compared to studying for exams
-Recovery
-Ehrlichman
-Press conferences, Domestic Council
-Ehrlichman
-Meeting with Haldeman and Kenneth W. Clawson [?]
-Choices
-The President's speech on Vietnam settlement
-Haig's trip [?]
-White House staff's view
-Press conference
-Effect
-Oval Office
Buchanan
-Book project
-Review by the President
Press relations
-Coverage of Nixon family
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-White House News Summary
-Tone
-1973 Inauguration
-The President's concerns
-Haldeman's conversation with Mrs. Nixon
-Special reports
-TV
-Written coverage
-Tone
-Washington Post, New York Times, Washington Star
-White House News Summary articles from Phoenix
-Fargo, North Dakota, Lewiston, Maine
-Human events
-Ehrlichman
The President's schedule
-Ehrlichman
-Confirmation strategy
-Fulbright
-31-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
-Peter M. Flanigan, Virginia H. Knauer, Kissinger, Roy L. Ash
-Domestic Council
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Charles H. Percy
-Ash, Knauer
-Ash, Kissinger, Flanigan
-Johnson services at Lyndon B. Johnson Ranch
-The President's representative, Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo
-Letter from Johnson
-The President's conversation with Johnson
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Connally
-Agnew
-Cabinet meeting
-Agnew's attendance
-Congressional leaders meetings
-Agnew
-Agnew's schedule
-Budget process
-Possible trip to Camp David with Connally
-Press conference
-Eisaku Sato's visit
-Prayer breakfast
-Vacation in California
-Timing
-Counsellors' meeting
-Press conference
*****************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift.]
-Possible vacation
-Florida, California
-Announcement
-1972 election
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift.]
*****************************************************************
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 404-11 (cont’d)
White House staff
-Price
-Work
Haldeman left at 1:35 pm.
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