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410-033a
- President Richard M. Nixon
- John D. Ehrlichman
- Thelma C. Ryan "Pat" Nixon
- Stephen B. Bull
- Manolo Sanchez
March 15, 1973
Conversation No. 410-33
Date: February 15, 1973
Time: 4:52 pm – 5:43 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Health
Personnel
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Successor to Peter G. Peterson on Soviet Trade Mission
-George P. Shultz
-58-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Frederick B. Dent
-Conflicts
The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon between 4:54 pm and 4:56 pm.
[Conversation No. 410-33A]
[See Conversation No. 43-99]
[End of telephone conversation]
Personnel
-Conflict over Peterson’s successor
-Negotiations with Soviet Union
-Shultz
-Kissinger
-Shultz’s meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
The President talked with Stephen B. Bull between 4:57 pm and 4:58 pm.
[Conversation No. 410-33B]
[See Conversation No. 43-100]
[End of telephone conversation]
L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Notifications
-Talk with James O. Eastland
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Support
Shultz
-Conflict with Kissinger
-Dobrynin
-Dent
-Super cabinet concept
-59-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
Peter M. Flanigan
-Trade package
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:58 pm.
Refreshments
Meeting with Bull
-Schedule for barber
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:43 pm.
White House staffing
-Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP]
-Flanigan
-Trade
-Kissinger
-Flanigan
-New assignment
-Shultz
-Cabinet meetings
-Procedures
-Dwight D. Eisenhower’s administration [?]
-Cabinet officers
-President’s attendance at meetings
-Opening
-Shultz
-Report on devaluation
-Trade
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Property Review Board
-Parks
-Chairman
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Departure
-Domestic Council
-60-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Merger
-Russell E. Train, Herbert Stein
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Kissinger
-Attendance at meetings
-Shultz
-Trips
-John T. Dunlop
-Support
-President’s evaluation
-Stein
-Retirement
-Dunlop
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:58 pm.
President’s schedule
-Barber
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:43 pm.
Watergate
-Ehrlichman’s work
-California
-Energy paper
Energy issues
-Ehrlichman’s recommendations
-Complexity of topic
-Deregulation of natural gas
-Russell B. Long
-New and old wells
-Exploration
-Impact on prices
-Necessity
-61-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Strategy
-Reasons
-Low prices
-Meeting with President
-Charles J. DiBona
-Avoidance of technicalities
-Trip to Florida
-Weather
-California
-Meetings with Ehrlichman and DiBona
-Airplane
-Briefing
Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan’s
-Speech to Harvard group
-Copy to President
-Contents
-City College of New York
-Harvard
-New blood
-Decline
-Eugene O’Neill’s The Hairy Ape
-Ideological initiative to the Left
-Stalinist Era
-Adam Ulam
Abortion
-James L. Buckley
-Telephone call to Ehrlichman
-Meeting of Catholic bishops
-Excommunication
-Cooperation with Supreme Court decision
-Medical personnel
-“Civil disobedience”
-Texas lawsuit
-Amicus brief by administration
-Administration’s avoidance
-62-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Kleindienst
-Role of federal government
-Political consequences
-Kleindienst
-Meeting with Buckley
Newbold (“Newby”) Noyes, Jr.
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Letter to President
-Editorial
-Support for President
-Budget and social programs
-Tone
-Meeting with President
-Scheduling
-Purpose
-Washington Star’s problem
-Black constituency
-Washington Daily News
-Loss of money
-Washington Post competition
-Washington newspapers
-Comparison to New York Herald-Tribune
-New York Times
-Discussions
-Noyes’s opinions
-Advice on tone
-Meeting with President
-Scheduling
Rose Mary Woods
-Talk with Ehrlichman
-Ehrlichman’s talk with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
Personnel
-Patricia R. Hitt
-ACTION position
-63-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Ehrlichman’s call
-New job
-Michael P. Balzano, Jr.
-Desire for job
-New majority
-ACTION
-Women
-Background
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
-Haldeman
-Administration
-Edwin Meese, III
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Donald E. Santarelli
-Qualifications
-John W. Dean, III
-Minority counsel to Ervin Committee
-Experience
-Qualities
-Deficiencies
-Dealings with Dean
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Wally Johnson
-Meese
-Other candidates
-Polish-Americans
-Kleindienst
-Polish-American or Irish-American
-Hitt
-ACTION
-Balzano
-Santarelli
-State Department job
-Minority counsel
-State Department
-Nelson G. Gross
-64-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Narcotics job
-Qualifications
-Kleindienst
-Polish-American
-LEAA
-Opposition
-Prejudice
-Gray
-Polish-American
-President’s commitment
-Santarelli
-State Department
-Baker
-Minority counsel
-Dean
-State Department job
-Polish-American
-LEAA
-Hitt
-Balzano
-Job
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Labor Department
-Assistant Secretary
-Peter J. Brennan
-Support
-Charles W. Colson
-Shultz
-Prejudice
-Italians, Poles
-Jews
-Competence
-Blacks
-Polish-Americans
-Hilary J. Sandoval
-Romana Acosta Banuelos
-Treasury Department
-65-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Car
-Risks
-Polish-Americans, Italian-Americans, Catholics
-Blacks
-Intelligence
-Balzano
-Call by Ehrlichman
-ACTION
-Brennan
-Shultz
-Balzano
-Position at Labor Department
White House staffing
-President’s talk with Haldeman
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-United States Secret Service [USSS]
-Woods
-Conversation with Helen A. Thomas
-Robert H. (“Bob”) Taylor
-William L. Duncan
-Problem
-Loyalty
-Richard E. Keiser
-Taylor
-Talk with Ehrlichman
-New job
-Woods
-Complaints
-Duncan
-New job
-Reasons
-Political sensitivities
-Rufus Youngblood
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Field experience
-Woods
-66-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Conflict with Dwight L. Chapin
-Haldeman
-Buffer role
-Lawrence M. Higby
-Cole
-Bull
-Telephone skills
-Compared to Bull
-Haldeman
-Assistants
-Higby
-Problems
-Terrance O’Donnell
-Personality
-Relationship with White House staff
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Staff dining areas
-Rules
-Gen. Walter R. Tkach
-Officers, doctors, military aides
-Restricted seating
-Higby
-Haldeman’s dining rules
-Doctors, officers, military aides
-Location
-USSS, secretaries
-Dr. William M. Lukash
-President’s view
-Origins
-Airplane trips
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National security]
[Duration: 2m 11s]
-67-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
AIR FORCE ONE
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
************************************************************************
White House staff
-Air Force One
-Redesign
-Cost
-Lt. Col. Ralph D. Albertazzi
-Respect for staff
-Haldeman
-Mess dining
-Haldeman
-Eating in office
-Ehrlichman’s habits
-Complaints by staff
-Segregation by military rank
-Officers, doctors, aides, helicopter pilots
-Higby
-Reasons
-Complaints
-Secretaries
-Visit from President
Ehrlichman left at 5:43 pm.
Date: February 15, 1973
Time: 4:52 pm – 5:43 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Health
Personnel
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Successor to Peter G. Peterson on Soviet Trade Mission
-George P. Shultz
-58-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Frederick B. Dent
-Conflicts
The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon between 4:54 pm and 4:56 pm.
[Conversation No. 410-33A]
[See Conversation No. 43-99]
[End of telephone conversation]
Personnel
-Conflict over Peterson’s successor
-Negotiations with Soviet Union
-Shultz
-Kissinger
-Shultz’s meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
The President talked with Stephen B. Bull between 4:57 pm and 4:58 pm.
[Conversation No. 410-33B]
[See Conversation No. 43-100]
[End of telephone conversation]
L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Notifications
-Talk with James O. Eastland
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Support
Shultz
-Conflict with Kissinger
-Dobrynin
-Dent
-Super cabinet concept
-59-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
Peter M. Flanigan
-Trade package
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:58 pm.
Refreshments
Meeting with Bull
-Schedule for barber
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:43 pm.
White House staffing
-Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP]
-Flanigan
-Trade
-Kissinger
-Flanigan
-New assignment
-Shultz
-Cabinet meetings
-Procedures
-Dwight D. Eisenhower’s administration [?]
-Cabinet officers
-President’s attendance at meetings
-Opening
-Shultz
-Report on devaluation
-Trade
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Property Review Board
-Parks
-Chairman
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Departure
-Domestic Council
-60-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Merger
-Russell E. Train, Herbert Stein
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Ehrlichman’s role
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Kissinger
-Attendance at meetings
-Shultz
-Trips
-John T. Dunlop
-Support
-President’s evaluation
-Stein
-Retirement
-Dunlop
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:58 pm.
President’s schedule
-Barber
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:43 pm.
Watergate
-Ehrlichman’s work
-California
-Energy paper
Energy issues
-Ehrlichman’s recommendations
-Complexity of topic
-Deregulation of natural gas
-Russell B. Long
-New and old wells
-Exploration
-Impact on prices
-Necessity
-61-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Strategy
-Reasons
-Low prices
-Meeting with President
-Charles J. DiBona
-Avoidance of technicalities
-Trip to Florida
-Weather
-California
-Meetings with Ehrlichman and DiBona
-Airplane
-Briefing
Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan’s
-Speech to Harvard group
-Copy to President
-Contents
-City College of New York
-Harvard
-New blood
-Decline
-Eugene O’Neill’s The Hairy Ape
-Ideological initiative to the Left
-Stalinist Era
-Adam Ulam
Abortion
-James L. Buckley
-Telephone call to Ehrlichman
-Meeting of Catholic bishops
-Excommunication
-Cooperation with Supreme Court decision
-Medical personnel
-“Civil disobedience”
-Texas lawsuit
-Amicus brief by administration
-Administration’s avoidance
-62-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Kleindienst
-Role of federal government
-Political consequences
-Kleindienst
-Meeting with Buckley
Newbold (“Newby”) Noyes, Jr.
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Letter to President
-Editorial
-Support for President
-Budget and social programs
-Tone
-Meeting with President
-Scheduling
-Purpose
-Washington Star’s problem
-Black constituency
-Washington Daily News
-Loss of money
-Washington Post competition
-Washington newspapers
-Comparison to New York Herald-Tribune
-New York Times
-Discussions
-Noyes’s opinions
-Advice on tone
-Meeting with President
-Scheduling
Rose Mary Woods
-Talk with Ehrlichman
-Ehrlichman’s talk with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
Personnel
-Patricia R. Hitt
-ACTION position
-63-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Ehrlichman’s call
-New job
-Michael P. Balzano, Jr.
-Desire for job
-New majority
-ACTION
-Women
-Background
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA]
-Haldeman
-Administration
-Edwin Meese, III
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Donald E. Santarelli
-Qualifications
-John W. Dean, III
-Minority counsel to Ervin Committee
-Experience
-Qualities
-Deficiencies
-Dealings with Dean
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Wally Johnson
-Meese
-Other candidates
-Polish-Americans
-Kleindienst
-Polish-American or Irish-American
-Hitt
-ACTION
-Balzano
-Santarelli
-State Department job
-Minority counsel
-State Department
-Nelson G. Gross
-64-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Narcotics job
-Qualifications
-Kleindienst
-Polish-American
-LEAA
-Opposition
-Prejudice
-Gray
-Polish-American
-President’s commitment
-Santarelli
-State Department
-Baker
-Minority counsel
-Dean
-State Department job
-Polish-American
-LEAA
-Hitt
-Balzano
-Job
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Labor Department
-Assistant Secretary
-Peter J. Brennan
-Support
-Charles W. Colson
-Shultz
-Prejudice
-Italians, Poles
-Jews
-Competence
-Blacks
-Polish-Americans
-Hilary J. Sandoval
-Romana Acosta Banuelos
-Treasury Department
-65-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Car
-Risks
-Polish-Americans, Italian-Americans, Catholics
-Blacks
-Intelligence
-Balzano
-Call by Ehrlichman
-ACTION
-Brennan
-Shultz
-Balzano
-Position at Labor Department
White House staffing
-President’s talk with Haldeman
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-United States Secret Service [USSS]
-Woods
-Conversation with Helen A. Thomas
-Robert H. (“Bob”) Taylor
-William L. Duncan
-Problem
-Loyalty
-Richard E. Keiser
-Taylor
-Talk with Ehrlichman
-New job
-Woods
-Complaints
-Duncan
-New job
-Reasons
-Political sensitivities
-Rufus Youngblood
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Field experience
-Woods
-66-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
-Conflict with Dwight L. Chapin
-Haldeman
-Buffer role
-Lawrence M. Higby
-Cole
-Bull
-Telephone skills
-Compared to Bull
-Haldeman
-Assistants
-Higby
-Problems
-Terrance O’Donnell
-Personality
-Relationship with White House staff
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Staff dining areas
-Rules
-Gen. Walter R. Tkach
-Officers, doctors, military aides
-Restricted seating
-Higby
-Haldeman’s dining rules
-Doctors, officers, military aides
-Location
-USSS, secretaries
-Dr. William M. Lukash
-President’s view
-Origins
-Airplane trips
************************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National security]
[Duration: 2m 11s]
-67-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Sept.10)
Conversation No. 410-33 (cont’d)
AIR FORCE ONE
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
************************************************************************
White House staff
-Air Force One
-Redesign
-Cost
-Lt. Col. Ralph D. Albertazzi
-Respect for staff
-Haldeman
-Mess dining
-Haldeman
-Eating in office
-Ehrlichman’s habits
-Complaints by staff
-Segregation by military rank
-Officers, doctors, aides, helicopter pilots
-Higby
-Reasons
-Complaints
-Secretaries
-Visit from President
Ehrlichman left at 5:43 pm.